View Poll Results: What marque do you prefer?

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    igaboj
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    I don't expect there to be very many car enthusiasts here, mainly because this is a cell phone forum, rather than a car forum, so, I just want to know what your preference is (BMW or Mercedes-Benz) as a non car enthusiast.

    Personally.. I like BMW. I guess I'll tell y'all why later.


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    ooooooooooo this is such a tuff question, i like both cars, they are both really gud. i think that the BMW has the edge though....



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    hmm very tough choice, i went with merc this time, but ill go either way.
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    Can anyone give some reasons?



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    i would say that i'd go with benz

    even though some benzes arent that goodlooking on the outside but the inside is awesome
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    I have a Benz... they are so much more car than BMW!



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    Quote Originally Posted by G-man
    I have a Benz... they are so much more car than BMW!
    Ok.. heres where I give my reasons for BMW.

    1st: Mercedes Benz's are amazingly conservative cars, and carry no sportiness to them; they're just boring cars for people that prefer boring cars, that prefer to drive something slow and dull, rather than something faster and exciting

    2nd: Every BMW out there has a near 50/50 weight balance; which means steering is very neutral; at higher speeds, theres no understeer when turning, yet, theres no oversteer either. With a perfect weight balance; BMW achieves the ultimate in handling. Obviously, Benz doesn't do this.

    3rd: Have you seen how much an SL or CLK weighs? They're unbelievably HEAVY at some 2 tons curb weight. However, if you look to the BMW alternative; the 6 series, it weighs a rather featherlight 3400 lbs, in the GT coupe category. Why? The trunklid is made from aluminium.. along with the hood, and door panels. The chasis is even more rigid than ANY benz out there.

    4th: Engine technology, I have yet to see a Mercedes make a good engine, without the aid of a supercharger. BMW has already set a record for this.. with the M3 CSL; 363 Horsepower from 3.2 liters. Benz's 3.2 liter V6 gets 215. The obvious choice is BMW

    5th: BMW has put in quite a bit of effort.. and it shows! Each car BMW makes has a near perfect 50/50 weight balance. Mercedes doesn't even attempt to do that with the C class! Let alone, any of it's big brothers.

    Mercedes makes slow cars, for people who like boring cars, and that like to flaunt their wealth, thinking that 3 point enblem holds them higher than everyone else.



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    BMW.

    Why? M3. 'nuff said.



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    BMW... They have Sportiness and class to them also the M3 and M5 also played a factor lol



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    Look at all the cars you have listed.. how many of them come with a real with hydroelectric clutch, or even an actual stick shift? Well.. one of them; the CLK-GTR.. which in reality; is quite overrated. People thought it would own in le mans, but half way through, it got beaten by quite a few cars. Overrated.. and BMW has a much more prestigious car to compete with it, the Mclaren F1.

    Then.. you go to list the CLK-DTM. How is that a sports car?? Is it because of the wing? Sure as hell no; doesn't even come with manual; or even some kind of SMG. You're stuck with an automatic, in what was meant to be "sporty".. no to mention; it's unbelievably heavy; which means major understeer due to it's F-R layout. Understeer, Understeer, Understeer. This cars sucks. Plus, Benz never does good on DTM.

    The SLR Mclaren? It too is extremely heavy; even after it's "amazing" carbon fiber body.. and it also weighs nearly 2 tons!. And with that F-R layout once again.. you'll get even more understeer. Not sporty. Oh.. did I mention? It only comes in auto. Not to mention.. it barely pulls . 95g on the skidpad. A 26 thousand dollar EVO does .98! Rip-off; get an Ascari KZ1, or Lamborghini Murcielago.. or even a Pagani Zonda.

    Now what again.. an SL55? Again, weighs 2 tons, only comes in automatic, F-R layout means so much understeer.. so it's not sporty at all. Porsche 911 turbo.. please.

    In the end.. None of Mercedes cars even gets close to BMW in terms of sportiness.
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    Sheesh... let me guess... you were driving your lil' BMW down the road and a guy driving a sporty, shiny Mercedes-Benz cut you off?

    You seem to have a lot of pent up frustration over this thing... but don't worry maybe someday you'll be able to afford a Mercedes too...

    Anybody notice how much the 2005 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG looks nearly identical to the 2005 BMW M5?



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    Quote Originally Posted by G-man
    Sheesh... let me guess... you were driving your lil' BMW down the road and a guy driving a sporty, shiny Mercedes-Benz cut you off?

    You seem to have a lot of pent up frustration over this thing... but don't worry maybe someday you'll be able to afford a Mercedes too...

    Anybody notice how much the 2005 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG looks nearly identical to the 2005 BMW M5?
    Haha.. So, you like the boring cars Mercedes makes? You haven't even said a word on how Mercedes makes sporty cars.. or even said how Mercedes's 2 ton "sports cars" are sporty. Until then.. I have yet to even think that you believe mercedes's "sports cars" are even sporty.

    G-man.. how come you can never back up what you say? Perhaps.... because....



    AHAHAHA...

    The only thing Mercedes is for is those rich people who only think driving a benz makes them look rich. Not to mention.. these people are simply boring people, because they care nothing about the sportiness of their car.

    And, I still have yet to see how this:



    looks like this:



    Benz just got owned. Mercedes's Supercharged E55 engine gets 469 Horsepower, while the M5 gets 507 Horsepower. Looks like the M5 just owned the E55. Did I say that the E55 only comes in automatic? Shows how boring Benz's are.

    BTW.. G-man.. how come you can never back up you can say with words? You just post up pics, cause you're some fanboy, and really don't know about performance. Run away, and come back after you know at least something about cars. You couldn't come back for the rest of your life!
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    The BMW of course is the ultimate drivers car. It has a heritage of style, performance, innovation and reliability that is unmatched in the automotive industry.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jiffy1mhip
    The BMW of course is the ultimate drivers car. It has a heritage of style, performance, innovation and reliability that is unmatched in the automotive industry.
    Yeah yeah yeah... that's what BMW tells everyone in their commercials. ... but what do you think jiffy?

    and iga... C'mon now.
    Haha.. So, you like the boring cars Mercedes makes? You haven't even said a word on how Mercedes makes sporty cars.. or even said how Mercedes's 2 ton "sports cars" are sporty. Until then.. I have yet to even think that you believe mercedes's "sports cars" are even sporty.

    G-man.. how come you can never back up what you say? Perhaps.... because....[expletive]
    No I didn't say a word... nor did I ever intend to... some folks just aren't worth wasting air on... all I did was mention that I owned a Mercedes (among several other cars and suv's... that and jokingly questioned your mental health... which it seems I wasn't so far off, after all. btw I did own a BMW once long ago... but I got tired of it being in the shop more than it was on the road. ...that and well... it just reminded me of an old ladies car. My Grandmother drives one, in fact.) Furthermore, I didn't purchase my Benz for it's sportiness... I already have several sporty cars. But BMW and Mercedes? I don't think of either as "sporty" quite honestly.

    and 'never back up what I say?' I never said anything that needed backing up!

    AHAHAHA...

    The only thing Mercedes is for is those rich people who only think driving a benz makes them look rich. Not to mention.. these people are simply boring people, because they care nothing about the sportiness of their car.
    Possibly... but I've always heard that about BMW drivers too... primarily Yuppies drive BMW... and my reasons for purchasing a Mercedes had nothing to do with that... I do well enough financially... I could've purchased any car I wanted regardless of cost... and I never flaunt my wealth... and I certainly couldn't care less what folks I respect think of me... (let alone someone I have no respect for.) Furthermore, anyone who knows me can vouch for me that... one thing I'm not is boring and besides how does 'not caring for the sportiness of their car' (as you say... whatever that means) have anything to do with a person being boring? ) To enlighten you... all you need to know is this about Mercedes... it's made in Germany... ever travelled to Germany? I have and I know that the Germans, as a whole, are known for their strong work ethic, they are very precise and careful, they work hard and they are very conservative, value oriented, moral people... locally, there is a sustained economy that is rather prosperous because they work hard and save their money and believe in quality. You've got that and then well... you've got the Autobahn, of course! The Germans aren't concerned in the least about silly prestige or status symbols... that's reserved for folks concerned about meaningless, trivial issues like you!

    And, I still have yet to see how this:. looks like this:
    Perhaps it would help if you actually provided pics to the exact year and model of cars I mentioned hmnnn...?

    Benz just got owned. Mercedes's Supercharged E55 engine gets 469 Horsepower, while the M5 gets 507 Horsepower. Looks like the M5 just owned the E55. Did I say that the E55 only comes in automatic? Shows how boring Benz's are.

    BTW.. G-man.. how come you can never back up you can say with words? You just post up pics, cause you're some fanboy, and really don't know about performance. Run away, and come back after you know at least something about cars. You couldn't come back for the rest of your life! :
    There he goes again with this "backing up bs... ...and wrong, yet again. The Mercedes E55 is rated at 476 horsepower not 469 (and just look at the rpm's that are needed for your Beamer to reach that amount btw... ) but that's really not the point though is it with Mercedes? It's not all about horsepower but unless you were anything more than the mere novice that you seem to be (not even)... you wouldn't see beyond the surface. Mercedes E55 is primarily concerned with something known as *ahem* torque (get out your Webster's ...or look it up in that Motor Trend or Car & Driver magazine or whatever you have there for reference ) and the E55 has PLENTY of it! Comparing apples to apple here so to speak... (since you're comparisons seem to be apples to oranges ) The Mercedes E55 has 516 pound feet at a reasonably accessible 2650 rpms compared to the M5's pansy-ish 384 pound feet and I believe an astounding ummm 6100 rpms. Who owns who now? Further comparisons... you mentioned the balanced 50/50 weight distribution right? ... well that's not quite accurate yet again... the M5 is 51/49 close but... then so is the E55 at 53/47... minimal difference that 99.9% of the time will never arise in day to day driving. You mentioned the weight of the Mercedes and that a Mercedes wasn't sporty due to it's weight (whatever that means... if that's your basis for sportiness... then there are plenty of luxury cars that could fit that bill... and I know that there's a substantial difference between sport cars and luxury cars. Well here's the difference between the M5 and the E55... *drum roll please...* *whispers* 50 pounds. What else...? Oh, the Mercedes E55 AMG beats the M5 in speed (0-60 in 4.2 sec. vs. 4.5 sec., the M5 is also more expensive than the E55... by an extra $80, the E55 has better gas mileage, a smaller wheelbase, better cornering, is easier to handle in the straight-aways... it's close but... in the end the E55 has the BMW equivalent beat overall.

    ...and if you actually knew the first thing about performance cars or design (which I'm an expert on btw... I consult auto manufacturers on how to design and build cars, write and develop the software they use in designing cars and I'm the owner and CEO of the company I founded that provides this service, which is one of a dozen or so currently but growing at an exponential rate I might add... my previous profession before I became an entreprenuer/investor trained me to drive in such a manner as to actually utilize all this performance you seem so concerned about... I quite frankly don't see the importance to drive like that unless you were working for a law enforcement agency or a race car driver or similar... and I know for certain you aren't the former. ) you would know that you can't compare two cars that are nearly identical... the auto companies are putting up these two cars as all competetive auto companies do like you would two opposing members on a sports team... understand? These cars are meant to compete for sales in a specific market... in other words... they are nearly identical. That's the way it works... first it was the E55 then BMW created the M5 to compete in that spectrum of the market. They each have their seperate identities and philosophies but essentially on paper... they are identical twins. I'm not a fan... I do know PLENTY more than you do and the majority of everyone else regarding performance and I don't ever run away from anything. The only reason I just posted up pics is that first of all, I didn't want to get into a senseless argument with someone who was biased in their closed minded opinions (hint: don't post a poll if you don't want to hear someone's view other than your own) secondly; you have little to no knowledge about the subject and your "facts" are intentionally skewed in favour of your opinion. Anyway, my advice to you... if you don't want to hear another's opinion that differs from your own... don't ask for it! I have no more to add to this thread but I'm not "running away" as you say kiddo'. Hmnnn... looks like the poll is 50/50 still.
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