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- 04-02-2005, 01:15 AM #1Offers bad advice freely!
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I don't expect there to be very many car enthusiasts here, mainly because this is a cell phone forum, rather than a car forum, so, I just want to know what your preference is (BMW or Mercedes-Benz) as a non car enthusiast.
Personally.. I like BMW. I guess I'll tell y'all why later.
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- 04-02-2005, 02:43 PM #2Member
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ooooooooooo this is such a tuff question, i like both cars, they are both really gud. i think that the BMW has the edge though....
- 04-02-2005, 03:59 PM #3Sr. Member
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hmm very tough choice, i went with merc this time, but ill go either way.
- 04-02-2005, 05:13 PM #4Offers bad advice freely!
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Can anyone give some reasons?
- 04-02-2005, 08:08 PM #5Banned
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i would say that i'd go with benz
even though some benzes arent that goodlooking on the outside but the inside is awesome
- 04-02-2005, 08:22 PM #6
I have a Benz... they are so much more car than BMW!
- 04-03-2005, 09:16 AM #7Offers bad advice freely!
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Originally Posted by G-man
1st: Mercedes Benz's are amazingly conservative cars, and carry no sportiness to them; they're just boring cars for people that prefer boring cars, that prefer to drive something slow and dull, rather than something faster and exciting
2nd: Every BMW out there has a near 50/50 weight balance; which means steering is very neutral; at higher speeds, theres no understeer when turning, yet, theres no oversteer either. With a perfect weight balance; BMW achieves the ultimate in handling. Obviously, Benz doesn't do this.
3rd: Have you seen how much an SL or CLK weighs? They're unbelievably HEAVY at some 2 tons curb weight. However, if you look to the BMW alternative; the 6 series, it weighs a rather featherlight 3400 lbs, in the GT coupe category. Why? The trunklid is made from aluminium.. along with the hood, and door panels. The chasis is even more rigid than ANY benz out there.
4th: Engine technology, I have yet to see a Mercedes make a good engine, without the aid of a supercharger. BMW has already set a record for this.. with the M3 CSL; 363 Horsepower from 3.2 liters. Benz's 3.2 liter V6 gets 215. The obvious choice is BMW
5th: BMW has put in quite a bit of effort.. and it shows! Each car BMW makes has a near perfect 50/50 weight balance. Mercedes doesn't even attempt to do that with the C class! Let alone, any of it's big brothers.
Mercedes makes slow cars, for people who like boring cars, and that like to flaunt their wealth, thinking that 3 point enblem holds them higher than everyone else.
- 04-03-2005, 06:19 PM #8Sr. Member
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BMW.
Why? M3. 'nuff said.███
- 04-04-2005, 11:13 PM #9Junior Member
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BMW... They have Sportiness and class to them also the M3 and M5 also played a factor lol
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- 04-05-2005, 08:57 AM #11Offers bad advice freely!
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Look at all the cars you have listed.. how many of them come with a real with hydroelectric clutch, or even an actual stick shift? Well.. one of them; the CLK-GTR.. which in reality; is quite overrated. People thought it would own in le mans, but half way through, it got beaten by quite a few cars. Overrated.. and BMW has a much more prestigious car to compete with it, the Mclaren F1.
Then.. you go to list the CLK-DTM. How is that a sports car?? Is it because of the wing? Sure as hell no; doesn't even come with manual; or even some kind of SMG. You're stuck with an automatic, in what was meant to be "sporty".. no to mention; it's unbelievably heavy; which means major understeer due to it's F-R layout. Understeer, Understeer, Understeer. This cars sucks. Plus, Benz never does good on DTM.
The SLR Mclaren? It too is extremely heavy; even after it's "amazing" carbon fiber body.. and it also weighs nearly 2 tons!. And with that F-R layout once again.. you'll get even more understeer. Not sporty. Oh.. did I mention? It only comes in auto. Not to mention.. it barely pulls . 95g on the skidpad. A 26 thousand dollar EVO does .98! Rip-off; get an Ascari KZ1, or Lamborghini Murcielago.. or even a Pagani Zonda.
Now what again.. an SL55? Again, weighs 2 tons, only comes in automatic, F-R layout means so much understeer.. so it's not sporty at all. Porsche 911 turbo.. please.
In the end.. None of Mercedes cars even gets close to BMW in terms of sportiness.Last edited by igaboj; 04-05-2005 at 08:12 PM.
- 04-06-2005, 09:20 AM #12
Sheesh... let me guess... you were driving your lil' BMW down the road and a guy driving a sporty, shiny Mercedes-Benz cut you off?
You seem to have a lot of pent up frustration over this thing... but don't worry maybe someday you'll be able to afford a Mercedes too...
Anybody notice how much the 2005 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG looks nearly identical to the 2005 BMW M5?
- 04-06-2005, 04:39 PM #13Offers bad advice freely!
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Originally Posted by G-man
G-man.. how come you can never back up what you say? Perhaps.... because....
AHAHAHA...
The only thing Mercedes is for is those rich people who only think driving a benz makes them look rich. Not to mention.. these people are simply boring people, because they care nothing about the sportiness of their car.
And, I still have yet to see how this:
looks like this:
Benz just got owned. Mercedes's Supercharged E55 engine gets 469 Horsepower, while the M5 gets 507 Horsepower. Looks like the M5 just owned the E55. Did I say that the E55 only comes in automatic? Shows how boring Benz's are.
BTW.. G-man.. how come you can never back up you can say with words? You just post up pics, cause you're some fanboy, and really don't know about performance. Run away, and come back after you know at least something about cars. You couldn't come back for the rest of your life!Last edited by igaboj; 04-06-2005 at 04:45 PM.
- 04-06-2005, 10:18 PM #14Junior Member
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The BMW of course is the ultimate drivers car. It has a heritage of style, performance, innovation and reliability that is unmatched in the automotive industry.
- 04-08-2005, 10:25 PM #15Originally Posted by jiffy1mhip
and iga... C'mon now.
Haha.. So, you like the boring cars Mercedes makes? You haven't even said a word on how Mercedes makes sporty cars.. or even said how Mercedes's 2 ton "sports cars" are sporty. Until then.. I have yet to even think that you believe mercedes's "sports cars" are even sporty.
G-man.. how come you can never back up what you say? Perhaps.... because....[expletive]
and 'never back up what I say?' I never said anything that needed backing up!
AHAHAHA...
The only thing Mercedes is for is those rich people who only think driving a benz makes them look rich. Not to mention.. these people are simply boring people, because they care nothing about the sportiness of their car.
And, I still have yet to see how this:. looks like this:
Benz just got owned. Mercedes's Supercharged E55 engine gets 469 Horsepower, while the M5 gets 507 Horsepower. Looks like the M5 just owned the E55. Did I say that the E55 only comes in automatic? Shows how boring Benz's are.
BTW.. G-man.. how come you can never back up you can say with words? You just post up pics, cause you're some fanboy, and really don't know about performance. Run away, and come back after you know at least something about cars. You couldn't come back for the rest of your life! :
...and if you actually knew the first thing about performance cars or design (which I'm an expert on btw... I consult auto manufacturers on how to design and build cars, write and develop the software they use in designing cars and I'm the owner and CEO of the company I founded that provides this service, which is one of a dozen or so currently but growing at an exponential rate I might add... my previous profession before I became an entreprenuer/investor trained me to drive in such a manner as to actually utilize all this performance you seem so concerned about... I quite frankly don't see the importance to drive like that unless you were working for a law enforcement agency or a race car driver or similar... and I know for certain you aren't the former. ) you would know that you can't compare two cars that are nearly identical... the auto companies are putting up these two cars as all competetive auto companies do like you would two opposing members on a sports team... understand? These cars are meant to compete for sales in a specific market... in other words... they are nearly identical. That's the way it works... first it was the E55 then BMW created the M5 to compete in that spectrum of the market. They each have their seperate identities and philosophies but essentially on paper... they are identical twins. I'm not a fan... I do know PLENTY more than you do and the majority of everyone else regarding performance and I don't ever run away from anything. The only reason I just posted up pics is that first of all, I didn't want to get into a senseless argument with someone who was biased in their closed minded opinions (hint: don't post a poll if you don't want to hear someone's view other than your own) secondly; you have little to no knowledge about the subject and your "facts" are intentionally skewed in favour of your opinion. Anyway, my advice to you... if you don't want to hear another's opinion that differs from your own... don't ask for it! I have no more to add to this thread but I'm not "running away" as you say kiddo'. Hmnnn... looks like the poll is 50/50 still.Last edited by G-man; 04-08-2005 at 11:26 PM.
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