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- 02-26-2006, 10:53 PM #1J David EllisGuest
With the old land-line I could dial a special number, hang
up, and the phone would ring until I picked up. Is there a
way to do that with a Cingular Moto Razr V3?
--David
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- 02-27-2006, 09:46 AM #2jayGuest
Re: How to call myself?
HA! what was the special number?
It's a neat trick but I really doubt it is possible to invoke a call to
yourself on purpose. Sometimes the lines get crossed at the towers, tho,
and you pick up all kinds of crazy things, including yourself sometimes, on
what seems like a 2 second delay echo. But the phone will say you are
talking to whoever you were trying to dial.
"J David Ellis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With the old land-line I could dial a special number, hang
> up, and the phone would ring until I picked up. Is there a
> way to do that with a Cingular Moto Razr V3?
> --David
- 02-27-2006, 10:44 AM #3Phil NelsonGuest
Re: How to call myself?
jay wrote:
> HA! what was the special number?
He's not supposed to tell anyone.
> It's a neat trick but I really doubt it is possible to invoke a call to
> yourself on purpose.
My understanding is there are such numbers, intended for TPC use only.
If they find out you know one, it won't be safe for you to use a phone
booth.
--
Phil Nelson
- 02-27-2006, 10:45 AM #4CliffGuest
Re: How to call myself?
"jay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> HA! what was the special number?
>
> It's a neat trick but I really doubt it is possible to invoke a call to
> yourself on purpose. Sometimes the lines get crossed at the towers, tho,
> and you pick up all kinds of crazy things, including yourself sometimes,
on
> what seems like a 2 second delay echo. But the phone will say you are
> talking to whoever you were trying to dial.
>
>
>
>
> "J David Ellis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > With the old land-line I could dial a special number, hang
> > up, and the phone would ring until I picked up. Is there a
> > way to do that with a Cingular Moto Razr V3?
> > --David
>
>
There actually was a number that you could dial (used to be 7 3's) that when
you hung up would make your phone ring. Used for testing purposes by the
phone companies.
- 02-27-2006, 03:52 PM #5JerGuest
Re: How to call myself?
Cliff wrote:
> "jay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>HA! what was the special number?
>>
>>It's a neat trick but I really doubt it is possible to invoke a call to
>>yourself on purpose. Sometimes the lines get crossed at the towers, tho,
>>and you pick up all kinds of crazy things, including yourself sometimes,
>
> on
>
>>what seems like a 2 second delay echo. But the phone will say you are
>>talking to whoever you were trying to dial.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"J David Ellis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>With the old land-line I could dial a special number, hang
>>>up, and the phone would ring until I picked up. Is there a
>>>way to do that with a Cingular Moto Razr V3?
>>>--David
>>
>>
>
> There actually was a number that you could dial (used to be 7 3's) that when
> you hung up would make your phone ring. Used for testing purposes by the
> phone companies.
>
>
They tore out all that legacy crap years ago.
--
jer
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- 02-27-2006, 06:27 PM #6Phil NelsonGuest
Re: How to call myself?
Jer wrote:
> Cliff wrote:
>
>> "jay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> HA! what was the special number?
>>>
>>> It's a neat trick but I really doubt it is possible to invoke a call to
>>> yourself on purpose. Sometimes the lines get crossed at the towers,
>>> tho,
>>> and you pick up all kinds of crazy things, including yourself sometimes,
>>
>>
>> on
>>
>>> what seems like a 2 second delay echo. But the phone will say you are
>>> talking to whoever you were trying to dial.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "J David Ellis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> With the old land-line I could dial a special number, hang
>>>> up, and the phone would ring until I picked up. Is there a
>>>> way to do that with a Cingular Moto Razr V3?
>>>> --David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There actually was a number that you could dial (used to be 7 3's)
>> that when
>> you hung up would make your phone ring. Used for testing purposes by the
>> phone companies.
>>
>>
>
>
> They tore out all that legacy crap years ago.
>
If by "they" you mean cellular companies, I don't know, but I doubt
the LECs have torn all those numbers out. I believe they change the
numbers from time to time.
--
Phil Nelson
- 02-28-2006, 07:16 AM #7JerGuest
Re: How to call myself?
Phil Nelson wrote:
> Jer wrote:
>
>> Cliff wrote:
>>
>>> "jay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> HA! what was the special number?
>>>>
>>>> It's a neat trick but I really doubt it is possible to invoke a call to
>>>> yourself on purpose. Sometimes the lines get crossed at the towers,
>>>> tho,
>>>> and you pick up all kinds of crazy things, including yourself
>>>> sometimes,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> on
>>>
>>>> what seems like a 2 second delay echo. But the phone will say you are
>>>> talking to whoever you were trying to dial.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "J David Ellis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>> With the old land-line I could dial a special number, hang
>>>>> up, and the phone would ring until I picked up. Is there a
>>>>> way to do that with a Cingular Moto Razr V3?
>>>>> --David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> There actually was a number that you could dial (used to be 7 3's)
>>> that when
>>> you hung up would make your phone ring. Used for testing purposes by
>>> the
>>> phone companies.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> They tore out all that legacy crap years ago.
>>
>
> If by "they" you mean cellular companies, I don't know, but I doubt
> the LECs have torn all those numbers out. I believe they change the
> numbers from time to time.
>
The cell companies never had special numbers for testing - they've
always had normal numbers for that. The landline companies also now use
normal numbers because there's no reason to have the special ones. Few
people these days know the test numbers because testing is all done with
computers negating the need for humans to be involved.
--
jer
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- 02-28-2006, 10:48 AM #8Phil NelsonGuest
Re: How to call myself?
Jer wrote:
> Phil Nelson wrote:
>
>> Jer wrote:
>>
>>> Cliff wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
....
>>>> There actually was a number that you could dial (used to be 7 3's)
>>>> that when
>>>> you hung up would make your phone ring. Used for testing purposes
>>>> by the
>>>> phone companies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They tore out all that legacy crap years ago.
>>>
>>
>> If by "they" you mean cellular companies, I don't know, but I doubt
>> the LECs have torn all those numbers out. I believe they change the
>> numbers from time to time.
>>
>
> The cell companies never had special numbers for testing - they've
> always had normal numbers for that. The landline companies also now use
> normal numbers because there's no reason to have the special ones. Few
> people these days know the test numbers because testing is all done with
> computers negating the need for humans to be involved.
>
I don't have access to LEC internal info, so I can't say whether the
tech who I watched use a test number recently was one of "few".
Possibly.
--
Phil Nelson
- 02-28-2006, 07:16 PM #9JerGuest
Re: How to call myself?
Phil Nelson wrote:
> Jer wrote:
>
>> Phil Nelson wrote:
>>
>>> Jer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cliff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "jay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>
> ...
>
>>>>> There actually was a number that you could dial (used to be 7 3's)
>>>>> that when
>>>>> you hung up would make your phone ring. Used for testing purposes
>>>>> by the
>>>>> phone companies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They tore out all that legacy crap years ago.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If by "they" you mean cellular companies, I don't know, but I doubt
>>> the LECs have torn all those numbers out. I believe they change the
>>> numbers from time to time.
>>>
>>
>> The cell companies never had special numbers for testing - they've
>> always had normal numbers for that. The landline companies also now
>> use normal numbers because there's no reason to have the special
>> ones. Few people these days know the test numbers because testing is
>> all done with computers negating the need for humans to be involved.
>>
>
> I don't have access to LEC internal info, so I can't say whether the
> tech who I watched use a test number recently was one of "few".
>
> Possibly.
>
Well, I don't have direct access to internal LEC info either, but I'm
close friends with someone who does. When I asked the same question
sometime back, the answer was there was no longer a need for any such
"special" test numbers because everything is programmatically switched
now - they can program any regular number to do anything they want
anytime they want. Those special test numbers were necessary when the
switches were mechanical, and the only way to connect to a test trunk
was to force the selectors to clatter their way into the special
destination. IOW, if I discontinued using my own number today, and they
needed a new number for some special internal thing tomorrow, all they'd
have to do is assign their specfial COS (Class of Service) flag to it
and test to their heart's content.
--
jer
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- 03-01-2006, 10:15 AM #10Phil NelsonGuest
Re: How to call myself?
Jer wrote:
> Phil Nelson wrote:
>
>> Jer wrote:
>>
>>> Phil Nelson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cliff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "jay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>>>> There actually was a number that you could dial (used to be 7 3's)
>>>>>> that when
>>>>>> you hung up would make your phone ring. Used for testing purposes
>>>>>> by the
>>>>>> phone companies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They tore out all that legacy crap years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If by "they" you mean cellular companies, I don't know, but I doubt
>>>> the LECs have torn all those numbers out. I believe they change the
>>>> numbers from time to time.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The cell companies never had special numbers for testing - they've
>>> always had normal numbers for that. The landline companies also now
>>> use normal numbers because there's no reason to have the special
>>> ones. Few people these days know the test numbers because testing is
>>> all done with computers negating the need for humans to be involved.
>>>
>>
>> I don't have access to LEC internal info, so I can't say whether the
>> tech who I watched use a test number recently was one of "few".
>>
>> Possibly.
>>
>
>
> Well, I don't have direct access to internal LEC info either, but I'm
> close friends with someone who does. When I asked the same question
> sometime back, the answer was there was no longer a need for any such
> "special" test numbers because everything is programmatically switched
> now - they can program any regular number to do anything they want
> anytime they want. Those special test numbers were necessary when the
> switches were mechanical, and the only way to connect to a test trunk
> was to force the selectors to clatter their way into the special
> destination. IOW, if I discontinued using my own number today, and they
> needed a new number for some special internal thing tomorrow, all they'd
> have to do is assign their specfial COS (Class of Service) flag to it
> and test to their heart's content.
>
We're still talking about dialing a special number that calls you back,
right? I'm sure the new switches can be reprogrammed to do almost
anything, just like your PC can, but my observation is that at least
one field tech still has and uses a test number.
Maybe your friend works in a cube somewhere? That might give him a
different perspective on what is needed than a guy who has to get in
a truck, go out in the real world, put his own two hands on the
customer end of the wire and try and make things actually work.
--
Phil Nelson
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