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- 10-05-2003, 01:55 AM #1About DakotaGuest
I am currently on Cingular's preferred nation (TDMA) plan. If I were to
switch to GSM Nation or Cingular Nation (GAIT), how much would a SIM
cost. From what I understand, GAIT SIMs are similar to but different
from GSM SIMs. I would more likely like to purchase a GAIT SIM, as to
have extra roaming capability.
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- 10-05-2003, 10:25 AM #2RockGuest
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It will come with the GAIT phone that you buy.
- 10-05-2003, 01:01 PM #3About DakotaGuest
Re: SIM card
Rock wrote:
> It will come with the GAIT phone that you buy.
I was looking at buying used phones, and it is my understanding that
SIMs cannot be used on another account, is that correct?
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- 10-05-2003, 03:14 PM #4J JeffGuest
Re: SIM card
I bought a used t62u on eBay in August, and the ad said "comes
with sim card." I figured this was worth bidding extra for. I
brought the phone into my local dealer (Cingular in St. Louis),
told them that I wanted to make this my new phone (formerly
used a tdma 7160) and also that the phone already had a sim.
She took out the sim, and said "okay, I'll try to see if I can reprogram
this sim into your account." She pecked away at her computer, and
I could tell that she was having trouble. She tried again, then said
"I need to call (somebody)." After a few minutes on the phone, she
said "the previous owner of this sim has closed his account, and once
the sim is shut off, it cannot be reactivated." Don't know how
knowedgeable this person was, but I could tell that she was
trying. I had to buy a new sim, which set me back $10, but
guess what? I still love my t62u, and my new Gait service.
YMMV.
-J Jeff
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> Rock wrote:
> > It will come with the GAIT phone that you buy.
>
> I was looking at buying used phones, and it is my understanding that
> SIMs cannot be used on another account, is that correct?
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- 10-05-2003, 03:39 PM #5About DakotaGuest
Re: SIM card
> She took out the sim, and said "okay, I'll try to see if I can reprogram
> this sim into your account." She pecked away at her computer, and
> I could tell that she was having trouble. She tried again, then said
> "I need to call (somebody)." After a few minutes on the phone, she
> said "the previous owner of this sim has closed his account, and once
> the sim is shut off, it cannot be reactivated." Don't know how
> knowedgeable this person was, but I could tell that she was
> trying. I had to buy a new sim, which set me back $10, but
> guess what? I still love my t62u, and my new Gait service.
> YMMV.
>
> -J Jeff
Thank you for your reply. The only thing that I am nervous about is not
living in a Cingular market, but still being under contract. If I did
need to take it into a Cingular store, it would be huge inconvenvience
(as the nearest Cingular store is about about 800 miles away). I also
have changed my mind as I have found out the GSM affiliate where I live
has roaming coverage with T-Mobile, but not Cingular or AT&T. I can get
ulimited GSM minutes for 29.99 (long distance excluded, but it will be a
good replacement for my landline) which will serve as my local
telephone, and I hope to switch to Cingular Nation 500 (500 anytime,
5000 night/weekend) for my traveling cellular phone.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
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- 10-05-2003, 09:44 PM #6JerGuest
Re: SIM card
About Dakota wrote:
[....]
> but it will be a
> good replacement for my landline) which will serve as my local
> telephone, ...
Going completely home wireless offers another thought... no wireless
carrier is obligated to guarantee coverage, including 911 service. Just
be aware of the implications of your decisions.
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- 10-05-2003, 10:39 PM #7About DakotaGuest
Re: SIM card
Jer wrote:
> About Dakota wrote:
>
> [....]
>
>> but it will be a good replacement for my landline) which will serve
>> as my local telephone, ...
>
>
>
> Going completely home wireless offers another thought... no wireless
> carrier is obligated to guarantee coverage, including 911 service. Just
> be aware of the implications of your decisions.
The primary reason that I would be going fully and completely wireless
is the frequency of moving. I am a college student and I move
frequently. I actually do not have a landline phone now. I meant to
say "it will be a good replacement for *a* landline". Most of my
friends also chose to go fully cellular, because you have the option of
leaving the phone at home, but it saves on the $75.00 fee to have it
switched to a landline switched to a new location. Since most are on
Verizon (America's Choice), they can also travel to many areas in the
country and use thier phone. I am wishing to upgrade to a GAIT phone to
have the added coverage of GSM (as I know of areas where GSM reception
is better than TDMA, CDMA, or even AMPS.
I do encourage people to post thoughts like that one though. That was a
very good post.
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- 10-06-2003, 05:23 PM #8William BrayGuest
Re: SIM card
If you were on a Cingular national plan you could have stayed with it
and still gotten good coverage. A GAIT phone you could have ordered
over the phone. However, as you are now with T-Mobile all this is
meaningless. I hope you enjoy your coverage, just be aware that
T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.
About Dakota <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> I am currently on Cingular's preferred nation (TDMA) plan. If I were to
> switch to GSM Nation or Cingular Nation (GAIT), how much would a SIM
> cost. From what I understand, GAIT SIMs are similar to but different
> from GSM SIMs. I would more likely like to purchase a GAIT SIM, as to
> have extra roaming capability.
>
> TIA
>
> AD
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- 10-06-2003, 11:04 PM #9About DakotaGuest
Re: SIM card
William Bray wrote:
> If you were on a Cingular national plan you could have stayed with it
> and still gotten good coverage. A GAIT phone you could have ordered
> over the phone. However, as you are now with T-Mobile all this is
> meaningless. I hope you enjoy your coverage, just be aware that
> T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.
I think you misunderstood my other post. The city in which I'm moving
to has native GSM coverage via RCC Unicel. I had assumed that Cingular
GSM roamed of the same system, but it does not. T-Mobile roams off the
entire RCC Unicel system there, but Cingular only roams on the Minnesota
SID, not the North Dakota SID (I'm moving to Fargo/Moorhead, twin cities
in which Fargo is in North Dakota and Moorhead is in Minnesota, the Red
River separates the two). Therefore it would be too risky to go with
Cingular GSM.
Thanks for your concern, though.
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- 10-07-2003, 07:42 AM #10Group Special MobileGuest
Re: SIM card
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:23:55 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
wrote:
>T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.
Free-way coverage????
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- 10-07-2003, 11:36 AM #11About DakotaGuest
Re: SIM card
Group Special Mobile wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:23:55 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
> wrote:
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>>T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.
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> Free-way coverage????
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I think "free-way coverage" is meant that T-Mobile would rather give you
no service in a rural area than have you pay roaming charges on a rural
GSM carrier.
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- 10-07-2003, 02:30 PM #12Group Special MobileGuest
Re: SIM card
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 12:36:01 -0500, About Dakota
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Group Special Mobile wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:23:55 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
>> wrote:
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>>>T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.
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>> Free-way coverage????
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>I think "free-way coverage" is meant that T-Mobile would rather give you
>no service in a rural area than have you pay roaming charges on a rural
>GSM carrier.
Is free-way the opposite of pay-way?
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- 10-07-2003, 06:06 PM #13William BrayGuest
Re: SIM card
Amusing. No. Freeway as in I-90. The vast majority of GSM providers
could care less about providing rural coverage at this time. Kindly
remember the history of cell phones in America is more closely tied to
the need of old fashion police (AMPS) radio phones, which were built up
along freeways and then major rural highways.
Look at that GSM map again. Cities along freeways get GSM, which is why
Sprint and Verizon get more total users- they go past the freeway to
rural America. T-mobile has no interest in TDMA or AMPS because their
parent company is strictly GSM based.
Group Special Mobile <look@signature_to.reply> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 12:36:01 -0500, About Dakota
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >Group Special Mobile wrote:
> >> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:23:55 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
> >> wrote:
> >>
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> >>>T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.
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> >> Free-way coverage????
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> >I think "free-way coverage" is meant that T-Mobile would rather give you
> >no service in a rural area than have you pay roaming charges on a rural
> >GSM carrier.
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> Is free-way the opposite of pay-way?
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- 10-07-2003, 08:10 PM #14Group Special MobileGuest
Re: SIM card
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 00:06:56 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
wrote:
>T-mobile has no interest in TDMA or AMPS because their
>parent company is strictly GSM based.
It doesn't matter a wit whether they're interested in AMPS or not.
AMPS cellular was only assigned two operators in each market. At the
outset it was an A and B carrier. Usually the B carrier was the
incumbent "B"ell telco. The A and B carriers are usually one of the
majors either Verizon, cingular or AT&T. It's no coincidence that
they also are #1, 2 & 3 carriers in the US. They were there back in
1983 at the beginning of cellular service. Digital PCS carriers
weren't even around to any extent til the mid nineties.
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- 10-07-2003, 09:14 PM #15About DakotaGuest
Re: SIM card
About Dakota wrote:
> I am currently on Cingular's preferred nation (TDMA) plan. If I were to
> switch to GSM Nation or Cingular Nation (GAIT), how much would a SIM
> cost. From what I understand, GAIT SIMs are similar to but different
> from GSM SIMs. I would more likely like to purchase a GAIT SIM, as to
> have extra roaming capability.
>
> TIA
>
> AD
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Since I have found out more information about Cingular's roaming
agreements, it appears imminent that Cingular will have GSM roaming with
RCC Unicel in the near future. Currently, in the area I will be moving,
Cingular roams with Western Wireless. As Western Wireless has a history
of "shady practices" in this area (it's easy to do that with almost no
competition), I have decided it would be better to upgrade to GAIT as to
help support RCC Unicel (a good but struggling rural company). However,
if for some reason the GSM fails or there is no signal, I will have TDMA
/AMPS to backup on.
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