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  1. #1
    About Dakota
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    I am currently on Cingular's preferred nation (TDMA) plan. If I were to
    switch to GSM Nation or Cingular Nation (GAIT), how much would a SIM
    cost. From what I understand, GAIT SIMs are similar to but different
    from GSM SIMs. I would more likely like to purchase a GAIT SIM, as to
    have extra roaming capability.

    TIA

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  2. #2
    Rock
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    Re: SIM card

    It will come with the GAIT phone that you buy.





  3. #3
    About Dakota
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    Re: SIM card

    Rock wrote:
    > It will come with the GAIT phone that you buy.


    I was looking at buying used phones, and it is my understanding that
    SIMs cannot be used on another account, is that correct?

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  4. #4
    J Jeff
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    Re: SIM card

    I bought a used t62u on eBay in August, and the ad said "comes
    with sim card." I figured this was worth bidding extra for. I
    brought the phone into my local dealer (Cingular in St. Louis),
    told them that I wanted to make this my new phone (formerly
    used a tdma 7160) and also that the phone already had a sim.

    She took out the sim, and said "okay, I'll try to see if I can reprogram
    this sim into your account." She pecked away at her computer, and
    I could tell that she was having trouble. She tried again, then said
    "I need to call (somebody)." After a few minutes on the phone, she
    said "the previous owner of this sim has closed his account, and once
    the sim is shut off, it cannot be reactivated." Don't know how
    knowedgeable this person was, but I could tell that she was
    trying. I had to buy a new sim, which set me back $10, but
    guess what? I still love my t62u, and my new Gait service.
    YMMV.

    -J Jeff
    (emails should be redirected to the home planet)

    "About Dakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Rock wrote:
    > > It will come with the GAIT phone that you buy.

    >
    > I was looking at buying used phones, and it is my understanding that
    > SIMs cannot be used on another account, is that correct?
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    About Dakota
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    Re: SIM card

    > She took out the sim, and said "okay, I'll try to see if I can reprogram
    > this sim into your account." She pecked away at her computer, and
    > I could tell that she was having trouble. She tried again, then said
    > "I need to call (somebody)." After a few minutes on the phone, she
    > said "the previous owner of this sim has closed his account, and once
    > the sim is shut off, it cannot be reactivated." Don't know how
    > knowedgeable this person was, but I could tell that she was
    > trying. I had to buy a new sim, which set me back $10, but
    > guess what? I still love my t62u, and my new Gait service.
    > YMMV.
    >
    > -J Jeff


    Thank you for your reply. The only thing that I am nervous about is not
    living in a Cingular market, but still being under contract. If I did
    need to take it into a Cingular store, it would be huge inconvenvience
    (as the nearest Cingular store is about about 800 miles away). I also
    have changed my mind as I have found out the GSM affiliate where I live
    has roaming coverage with T-Mobile, but not Cingular or AT&T. I can get
    ulimited GSM minutes for 29.99 (long distance excluded, but it will be a
    good replacement for my landline) which will serve as my local
    telephone, and I hope to switch to Cingular Nation 500 (500 anytime,
    5000 night/weekend) for my traveling cellular phone.

    Thanks for sharing your experience.

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  6. #6
    Jer
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    Re: SIM card

    About Dakota wrote:

    [....]

    > but it will be a
    > good replacement for my landline) which will serve as my local
    > telephone, ...



    Going completely home wireless offers another thought... no wireless
    carrier is obligated to guarantee coverage, including 911 service. Just
    be aware of the implications of your decisions.

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  7. #7
    About Dakota
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    Re: SIM card

    Jer wrote:
    > About Dakota wrote:
    >
    > [....]
    >
    >> but it will be a good replacement for my landline) which will serve
    >> as my local telephone, ...

    >
    >
    >
    > Going completely home wireless offers another thought... no wireless
    > carrier is obligated to guarantee coverage, including 911 service. Just
    > be aware of the implications of your decisions.


    The primary reason that I would be going fully and completely wireless
    is the frequency of moving. I am a college student and I move
    frequently. I actually do not have a landline phone now. I meant to
    say "it will be a good replacement for *a* landline". Most of my
    friends also chose to go fully cellular, because you have the option of
    leaving the phone at home, but it saves on the $75.00 fee to have it
    switched to a landline switched to a new location. Since most are on
    Verizon (America's Choice), they can also travel to many areas in the
    country and use thier phone. I am wishing to upgrade to a GAIT phone to
    have the added coverage of GSM (as I know of areas where GSM reception
    is better than TDMA, CDMA, or even AMPS.

    I do encourage people to post thoughts like that one though. That was a
    very good post.

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  8. #8
    William Bray
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    Re: SIM card

    If you were on a Cingular national plan you could have stayed with it
    and still gotten good coverage. A GAIT phone you could have ordered
    over the phone. However, as you are now with T-Mobile all this is
    meaningless. I hope you enjoy your coverage, just be aware that
    T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.

    About Dakota <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > I am currently on Cingular's preferred nation (TDMA) plan. If I were to
    > switch to GSM Nation or Cingular Nation (GAIT), how much would a SIM
    > cost. From what I understand, GAIT SIMs are similar to but different
    > from GSM SIMs. I would more likely like to purchase a GAIT SIM, as to
    > have extra roaming capability.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > AD
    >


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    About Dakota
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    Re: SIM card



    William Bray wrote:
    > If you were on a Cingular national plan you could have stayed with it
    > and still gotten good coverage. A GAIT phone you could have ordered
    > over the phone. However, as you are now with T-Mobile all this is
    > meaningless. I hope you enjoy your coverage, just be aware that
    > T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.


    I think you misunderstood my other post. The city in which I'm moving
    to has native GSM coverage via RCC Unicel. I had assumed that Cingular
    GSM roamed of the same system, but it does not. T-Mobile roams off the
    entire RCC Unicel system there, but Cingular only roams on the Minnesota
    SID, not the North Dakota SID (I'm moving to Fargo/Moorhead, twin cities
    in which Fargo is in North Dakota and Moorhead is in Minnesota, the Red
    River separates the two). Therefore it would be too risky to go with
    Cingular GSM.

    Thanks for your concern, though.

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  10. #10
    Group Special Mobile
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    Re: SIM card

    On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:23:55 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    wrote:

    >T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.


    Free-way coverage????

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  11. #11
    About Dakota
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    Re: SIM card

    Group Special Mobile wrote:
    > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:23:55 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.

    >
    >
    > Free-way coverage????
    >
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    > GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com


    I think "free-way coverage" is meant that T-Mobile would rather give you
    no service in a rural area than have you pay roaming charges on a rural
    GSM carrier.

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    Group Special Mobile
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    Re: SIM card

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 12:36:01 -0500, About Dakota
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Group Special Mobile wrote:
    >> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:23:55 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.

    >>
    >>
    >> Free-way coverage????
    >>
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    >> GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com

    >
    >I think "free-way coverage" is meant that T-Mobile would rather give you
    >no service in a rural area than have you pay roaming charges on a rural
    >GSM carrier.


    Is free-way the opposite of pay-way?
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  13. #13
    William Bray
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    Re: SIM card

    Amusing. No. Freeway as in I-90. The vast majority of GSM providers
    could care less about providing rural coverage at this time. Kindly
    remember the history of cell phones in America is more closely tied to
    the need of old fashion police (AMPS) radio phones, which were built up
    along freeways and then major rural highways.
    Look at that GSM map again. Cities along freeways get GSM, which is why
    Sprint and Verizon get more total users- they go past the freeway to
    rural America. T-mobile has no interest in TDMA or AMPS because their
    parent company is strictly GSM based.

    Group Special Mobile <look@signature_to.reply> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 12:36:01 -0500, About Dakota
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Group Special Mobile wrote:
    > >> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:23:55 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    > >> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>T-Mobile primarily provides free-way coverage.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Free-way coverage????
    > >>
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    > >> To send an email reply send to
    > >> GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com

    > >
    > >I think "free-way coverage" is meant that T-Mobile would rather give you
    > >no service in a rural area than have you pay roaming charges on a rural
    > >GSM carrier.

    >
    > Is free-way the opposite of pay-way?
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  14. #14
    Group Special Mobile
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    Re: SIM card

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 00:06:56 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    wrote:

    >T-mobile has no interest in TDMA or AMPS because their
    >parent company is strictly GSM based.


    It doesn't matter a wit whether they're interested in AMPS or not.
    AMPS cellular was only assigned two operators in each market. At the
    outset it was an A and B carrier. Usually the B carrier was the
    incumbent "B"ell telco. The A and B carriers are usually one of the
    majors either Verizon, cingular or AT&T. It's no coincidence that
    they also are #1, 2 & 3 carriers in the US. They were there back in
    1983 at the beginning of cellular service. Digital PCS carriers
    weren't even around to any extent til the mid nineties.

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    About Dakota
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    Re: SIM card



    About Dakota wrote:
    > I am currently on Cingular's preferred nation (TDMA) plan. If I were to
    > switch to GSM Nation or Cingular Nation (GAIT), how much would a SIM
    > cost. From what I understand, GAIT SIMs are similar to but different
    > from GSM SIMs. I would more likely like to purchase a GAIT SIM, as to
    > have extra roaming capability.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > AD
    >


    Since I have found out more information about Cingular's roaming
    agreements, it appears imminent that Cingular will have GSM roaming with
    RCC Unicel in the near future. Currently, in the area I will be moving,
    Cingular roams with Western Wireless. As Western Wireless has a history
    of "shady practices" in this area (it's easy to do that with almost no
    competition), I have decided it would be better to upgrade to GAIT as to
    help support RCC Unicel (a good but struggling rural company). However,
    if for some reason the GSM fails or there is no signal, I will have TDMA
    /AMPS to backup on.

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