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  1. #1
    PDA Man
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    Verizon to steal Nextel PTT customers after resolving latency issues
    Consumer behavior monitoring firm Compete Inc. noted Verizon Wireless'
    recently launched Push to Talk service will begin to siphon subscribers from
    current walkie-talkie leader Nextel once its latency issues are resolved.
    Verizon Wireless said last week in its third-quarter results that it has
    signed up more than 100,000 subscribers to its PTT offering.

    The service has received mixed reviews from analysts due to limited handset
    selection and latency issues. However, Compete noted in a report that nearly
    two-thirds of Nextel subscribers who considered switching carriers in
    September evaluated Verizon Wireless, with one-third of those subscribers
    researching Verizon Wireless' Push to Talk offering.

    "Push-to-talk services will not be a growth driver for new entrants into the
    market until these carriers can produce response times that match those of
    Nextel's Direct Connect offering," explained T.J. Mahony, senior wireless
    analyst at Compete. "The strong interest we are observing in Verizon among
    Nextel subscribers, however, demonstrates that Nextel's market position is
    clearly at risk once carriers improve the performance of their push-to-talk
    services."

    Verizon Wireless is expected to be joined by Sprint PCS and Alltel Corp. by
    the end of this year in offering push-to-talk solutions geared toward Nextel
    's Direct Connect offering. SOURCE
    http://www.rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=15749






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  2. #2
    Larry W4CSC
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:21:07 -0500, "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:

    (cue music) "Dreeeeeeeam.......and the dream comes
    true..........Dreeeeeeam, it's the thing to do.........."

    The latency issue will never be resolved unless they can figure out
    how to fix THE INTERNET and VoIP......

    "Dreeeeeam!........Dreeeeeam!.......Dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam........."
    (song ends, auto reject 45, tone arm parks, pawl pulls switch to off,
    turntable coasts to a stop)..........)(*&$)(@*#%_)(#$_)NO CARRIER



    Larry W4CSC

    "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"




  3. #3
    Larry W4CSC
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:21:07 -0500, "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:

    (cue music) "Dreeeeeeeam.......and the dream comes
    true..........Dreeeeeeam, it's the thing to do.........."

    The latency issue will never be resolved unless they can figure out
    how to fix THE INTERNET and VoIP......

    "Dreeeeeam!........Dreeeeeam!.......Dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam........."
    (song ends, auto reject 45, tone arm parks, pawl pulls switch to off,
    turntable coasts to a stop)..........)(*&$)(@*#%_)(#$_)NO CARRIER



    Larry W4CSC

    "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"




  4. #4
    Dan Pendragon
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Verizon to steal Nextel PTT customers after resolving latency issues
    > Consumer behavior monitoring firm Compete Inc. noted Verizon Wireless'
    > recently launched Push to Talk service will begin to siphon subscribers from
    > current walkie-talkie leader Nextel once its latency issues are resolved.



    Wishful thinking.

    First off V o IP technology is so different than Nextels that some
    latency will remain, and its not being reduced at all in the short run,
    and more likely will increase as network gets busier.

    Secondly, any Nextel User who switches to Verison will have to buy
    Verizon hardware, as will anyone he expects to Direct Connect with.



  5. #5
    Dan Pendragon
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Verizon to steal Nextel PTT customers after resolving latency issues
    > Consumer behavior monitoring firm Compete Inc. noted Verizon Wireless'
    > recently launched Push to Talk service will begin to siphon subscribers from
    > current walkie-talkie leader Nextel once its latency issues are resolved.



    Wishful thinking.

    First off V o IP technology is so different than Nextels that some
    latency will remain, and its not being reduced at all in the short run,
    and more likely will increase as network gets busier.

    Secondly, any Nextel User who switches to Verison will have to buy
    Verizon hardware, as will anyone he expects to Direct Connect with.



  6. #6
    Evan Platt
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:21:07 -0500, "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Verizon to steal Nextel PTT customers after resolving latency issues
    >Consumer behavior monitoring firm Compete Inc. noted Verizon Wireless'
    >recently launched Push to Talk service will begin to siphon subscribers from
    >current walkie-talkie leader Nextel once its latency issues are resolved.
    >Verizon Wireless said last week in its third-quarter results that it has
    >signed up more than 100,000 subscribers to its PTT offering.


    I have a friend who is unable to get PTT. Verizon says it's not
    available in his market.

    Oh... I forgot to mention the market - we're not talking Podunk -
    we're talking Sacramento, California. Yeah, maybe you've heard of it -
    it's like the State Capital.

    Go figure.
    To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.



  7. #7
    Evan Platt
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:21:07 -0500, "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Verizon to steal Nextel PTT customers after resolving latency issues
    >Consumer behavior monitoring firm Compete Inc. noted Verizon Wireless'
    >recently launched Push to Talk service will begin to siphon subscribers from
    >current walkie-talkie leader Nextel once its latency issues are resolved.
    >Verizon Wireless said last week in its third-quarter results that it has
    >signed up more than 100,000 subscribers to its PTT offering.


    I have a friend who is unable to get PTT. Verizon says it's not
    available in his market.

    Oh... I forgot to mention the market - we're not talking Podunk -
    we're talking Sacramento, California. Yeah, maybe you've heard of it -
    it's like the State Capital.

    Go figure.
    To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.



  8. #8
    Diamond Dave
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    Sacramento is a small market IMHO. Just because its the state capital
    doesn't mean beans.

    Dave



    On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:27:55 -0800, Evan Platt
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    >
    >Oh... I forgot to mention the market - we're not talking Podunk -
    >we're talking Sacramento, California. Yeah, maybe you've heard of it -
    >it's like the State Capital.
    >
    >Go figure.
    >To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.





  9. #9
    Diamond Dave
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    Sacramento is a small market IMHO. Just because its the state capital
    doesn't mean beans.

    Dave



    On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:27:55 -0800, Evan Platt
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    >
    >Oh... I forgot to mention the market - we're not talking Podunk -
    >we're talking Sacramento, California. Yeah, maybe you've heard of it -
    >it's like the State Capital.
    >
    >Go figure.
    >To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.





  10. #10
    Mike Ward
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:24:00 GMT, Diamond Dave
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Sacramento is a small market IMHO. Just because its the state capital
    >doesn't mean beans.


    Sacramento is not a small market.

    There are roughly a million and a half people in the
    Sacramento/Stockton/Modesto TV market (#19 in the country) and I
    believe just over a mlllion in the Sacramento radio market (#27).

    It's not New York or Chicago or even San Francisco, but it's a large
    market.

    Mike



  11. #11
    Mike Ward
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:24:00 GMT, Diamond Dave
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Sacramento is a small market IMHO. Just because its the state capital
    >doesn't mean beans.


    Sacramento is not a small market.

    There are roughly a million and a half people in the
    Sacramento/Stockton/Modesto TV market (#19 in the country) and I
    believe just over a mlllion in the Sacramento radio market (#27).

    It's not New York or Chicago or even San Francisco, but it's a large
    market.

    Mike



  12. #12
    KA7EII
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    Mike Ward <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:24:00 GMT, Diamond Dave
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Sacramento is a small market IMHO. Just because its the state capital
    > >doesn't mean beans.

    >
    > Sacramento is not a small market.
    >
    > There are roughly a million and a half people in the
    > Sacramento/Stockton/Modesto TV market (#19 in the country) and I
    > believe just over a mlllion in the Sacramento radio market (#27).
    >
    > It's not New York or Chicago or even San Francisco, but it's a large
    > market.
    >
    > Mike



    I find it hard to believe that Verizon's PTT service is not available
    in the Sacramento area. I was in Sacramento a few weeks ago and my
    wife and I had no problem with Verizon coverage in the Sacramento
    area. Our mobile-to-mobile and even the data worked great. You
    need a good map to find some of the rural places here in Utah that
    Verizon's PTT works in.



  13. #13
    KA7EII
    Guest

    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    Mike Ward <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:24:00 GMT, Diamond Dave
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Sacramento is a small market IMHO. Just because its the state capital
    > >doesn't mean beans.

    >
    > Sacramento is not a small market.
    >
    > There are roughly a million and a half people in the
    > Sacramento/Stockton/Modesto TV market (#19 in the country) and I
    > believe just over a mlllion in the Sacramento radio market (#27).
    >
    > It's not New York or Chicago or even San Francisco, but it's a large
    > market.
    >
    > Mike



    I find it hard to believe that Verizon's PTT service is not available
    in the Sacramento area. I was in Sacramento a few weeks ago and my
    wife and I had no problem with Verizon coverage in the Sacramento
    area. Our mobile-to-mobile and even the data worked great. You
    need a good map to find some of the rural places here in Utah that
    Verizon's PTT works in.



  14. #14
    Evan Platt
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    On 4 Nov 2003 19:11:19 -0800, [email protected] (KA7EII) wrote:

    >I find it hard to believe that Verizon's PTT service is not available
    >in the Sacramento area.


    Well, he went to 2 different indirect dealers, both said the same
    thing..

    >I was in Sacramento a few weeks ago and my wife and I had no problem
    >with Verizon coverage in the Sacramento area.


    Did you use the PTT?
    To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.



  15. #15
    Evan Platt
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    Re: news: Verizon Set to Siphon Off NEXTELs PTT Custs Once Latency Resolved

    On 4 Nov 2003 19:11:19 -0800, [email protected] (KA7EII) wrote:

    >I find it hard to believe that Verizon's PTT service is not available
    >in the Sacramento area.


    Well, he went to 2 different indirect dealers, both said the same
    thing..

    >I was in Sacramento a few weeks ago and my wife and I had no problem
    >with Verizon coverage in the Sacramento area.


    Did you use the PTT?
    To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.



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