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- 09-25-2003, 08:27 PM #46JohnGuest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
"Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John wrote:
> > That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
> > service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
> > whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a
new
> > car before you trade in your old one?
>
> Actually, no, I don't test drive these days. I figure if I don't know
> enough about the car's condition and drivability to already want it,
> I've got no business buying it. If I did decide to test drive, it'd
> have to be for at least a week or longer, certainly long enough to do
> a really swell road trip - and the only way that's gonna happen is to
> rent one similar enough to make it worthwhile. But that's about cars
> which have no returnability if it turns out I just don't like how it
> drives. Cingular offers a 14 day bail-out clause in all new
> contracts, but if it's a ported number, what'cha gonna do? port it
> back? I suppose you could. Or, you could rent a Cingular phone for a
> while until you've determined it's value - sorta like my vacation test
> drive in a rental.
The whole point is that I don't want to port my number, and then have to do
it again because the coverage is unacceptable. Whether I rent a phone or
buy it with the option of returning it within 14 days, I don't care.
However, Cingular, or any other company, doesn't rent phones. I just want
to make sure the coverage is acceptable in the areas I need it to be before
I spend the time and effort to port my number. The alternative is to buy a
phone, try it out for 2 weeks, and then return it. If the service is
acceptable, then buy another phone, this time porting over the number at the
outset. That's just more effort for me, and a money loser for the phone
company.
BTW, your vacation rental is the same thing as a test drive. The point is
you actually got in that model and got the "feel" of it.
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- 09-25-2003, 08:27 PM #47JohnGuest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
"Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John wrote:
> > That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
> > service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
> > whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a
new
> > car before you trade in your old one?
>
> Actually, no, I don't test drive these days. I figure if I don't know
> enough about the car's condition and drivability to already want it,
> I've got no business buying it. If I did decide to test drive, it'd
> have to be for at least a week or longer, certainly long enough to do
> a really swell road trip - and the only way that's gonna happen is to
> rent one similar enough to make it worthwhile. But that's about cars
> which have no returnability if it turns out I just don't like how it
> drives. Cingular offers a 14 day bail-out clause in all new
> contracts, but if it's a ported number, what'cha gonna do? port it
> back? I suppose you could. Or, you could rent a Cingular phone for a
> while until you've determined it's value - sorta like my vacation test
> drive in a rental.
The whole point is that I don't want to port my number, and then have to do
it again because the coverage is unacceptable. Whether I rent a phone or
buy it with the option of returning it within 14 days, I don't care.
However, Cingular, or any other company, doesn't rent phones. I just want
to make sure the coverage is acceptable in the areas I need it to be before
I spend the time and effort to port my number. The alternative is to buy a
phone, try it out for 2 weeks, and then return it. If the service is
acceptable, then buy another phone, this time porting over the number at the
outset. That's just more effort for me, and a money loser for the phone
company.
BTW, your vacation rental is the same thing as a test drive. The point is
you actually got in that model and got the "feel" of it.
- 09-25-2003, 11:54 PM #48Arthur DentGuest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Does anyone have an estimate on how long will it take from the first call
to
> when the number is completely transferred over?
>
Supposedly, cellco to cellco ports will take up to around 3 or 4 hours, not
days or weeks. Landline to cellco ports, however, will take days, if it
will really be possible in Nov. The port is done automagically thru
different systems. I also hear there will be systems which will monitor the
status of the port.
- 09-25-2003, 11:54 PM #49Arthur DentGuest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone have an estimate on how long will it take from the first call
to
> when the number is completely transferred over?
>
Supposedly, cellco to cellco ports will take up to around 3 or 4 hours, not
days or weeks. Landline to cellco ports, however, will take days, if it
will really be possible in Nov. The port is done automagically thru
different systems. I also hear there will be systems which will monitor the
status of the port.
- 09-26-2003, 12:05 AM #50Arthur DentGuest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
"John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Exactly.. and why should they?
>
Because holding a number hostage will not lessen any carrier's chance of
someone not paying a bill. If someone is going to run out, they will run
out regardless.
I doubt a carrier will be able to keep a number if any bill is not paid,
since the carrier will not know that the customer is porting a number till
it recieves a porting request from another carrier. After the port is
complete the customer's account is still open, but without a number. If a
bill or ETF needs to be paid, it will be settled after the number is ported
out. Carriers have ways to get their money.
- 09-26-2003, 12:05 AM #51Arthur DentGuest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
"John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Exactly.. and why should they?
>
Because holding a number hostage will not lessen any carrier's chance of
someone not paying a bill. If someone is going to run out, they will run
out regardless.
I doubt a carrier will be able to keep a number if any bill is not paid,
since the carrier will not know that the customer is porting a number till
it recieves a porting request from another carrier. After the port is
complete the customer's account is still open, but without a number. If a
bill or ETF needs to be paid, it will be settled after the number is ported
out. Carriers have ways to get their money.
- 09-26-2003, 06:22 AM #52JerGuest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
John wrote:
> The whole point is that I don't want to port my number, and then have to do
> it again because the coverage is unacceptable. Whether I rent a phone or
> buy it with the option of returning it within 14 days, I don't care.
> However, Cingular, or any other company, doesn't rent phones. I just want
> to make sure the coverage is acceptable in the areas I need it to be before
> I spend the time and effort to port my number. The alternative is to buy a
> phone, try it out for 2 weeks, and then return it. If the service is
> acceptable, then buy another phone, this time porting over the number at the
> outset. That's just more effort for me, and a money loser for the phone
> company.
Well, there's your option. Get a new phone from Cingular, use it for
14 day eval purposes. Then cancel. Make decision. Sorta like a
girlfriend (or boyfriend), except in my book, they get 30 days.
>
> BTW, your vacation rental is the same thing as a test drive. The point is
> you actually got in that model and got the "feel" of it.
Yeah, it is the same thing, yet I've never actually done it - though
that option is available to anyone.
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- 09-26-2003, 06:22 AM #53JerGuest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
John wrote:
> The whole point is that I don't want to port my number, and then have to do
> it again because the coverage is unacceptable. Whether I rent a phone or
> buy it with the option of returning it within 14 days, I don't care.
> However, Cingular, or any other company, doesn't rent phones. I just want
> to make sure the coverage is acceptable in the areas I need it to be before
> I spend the time and effort to port my number. The alternative is to buy a
> phone, try it out for 2 weeks, and then return it. If the service is
> acceptable, then buy another phone, this time porting over the number at the
> outset. That's just more effort for me, and a money loser for the phone
> company.
Well, there's your option. Get a new phone from Cingular, use it for
14 day eval purposes. Then cancel. Make decision. Sorta like a
girlfriend (or boyfriend), except in my book, they get 30 days.
>
> BTW, your vacation rental is the same thing as a test drive. The point is
> you actually got in that model and got the "feel" of it.
Yeah, it is the same thing, yet I've never actually done it - though
that option is available to anyone.
--
jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
- 09-26-2003, 06:56 AM #54Phill.Guest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Well, there's your option. Get a new phone from Cingular, use it for
> 14 day eval purposes. Then cancel. Make decision. Sorta like a
> girlfriend (or boyfriend), except in my book, they get 30 days.
Except there a lots of charges. Likely you're into a 2nd billing period,
for which they'll charge you in full, then there's the "nonrefundable"
activation charge".
Cellular companies all pull that trick. Start you with a full billing
period one week in, so you'll get charged Extra if you quit after 14
days.
- 09-26-2003, 06:56 AM #55Phill.Guest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Well, there's your option. Get a new phone from Cingular, use it for
> 14 day eval purposes. Then cancel. Make decision. Sorta like a
> girlfriend (or boyfriend), except in my book, they get 30 days.
Except there a lots of charges. Likely you're into a 2nd billing period,
for which they'll charge you in full, then there's the "nonrefundable"
activation charge".
Cellular companies all pull that trick. Start you with a full billing
period one week in, so you'll get charged Extra if you quit after 14
days.
- 09-26-2003, 06:26 PM #56JerGuest
Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings
Phill. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Well, there's your option. Get a new phone from Cingular, use it for
>>14 day eval purposes. Then cancel. Make decision. Sorta like a
>>girlfriend (or boyfriend), except in my book, they get 30 days.
>
>
> Except there a lots of charges. Likely you're into a 2nd billing period,
> for which they'll charge you in full, then there's the "nonrefundable"
> activation charge".
>
> Cellular companies all pull that trick. Start you with a full billing
> period one week in, so you'll get charged Extra if you quit after 14
> days.
Well, whoever said an education was free?
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