Nokia 6230, good choice?

Hello All,

I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;

-call (duh
-SMS
-use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the 6230 phone
and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like to use that for
sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my PDA.
-occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to my PDA.

the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.

Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should I look
further?

Bye
Marcel <[email protected]> Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:56:37 +0200

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:06:06 +0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hello All,
>
>I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;
>
>-call (duh
>-SMS
>-use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the 6230 phone
>and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like to use that for
>sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my PDA.
>-occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to my PDA.
>
>the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.
>
>Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should I look
>further?
>

4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with pda -
gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down & reboots or just drop the
connection to gprs. I would wait to check that the new firmware 5.14
resolves this otherwise I think you might be disappointed. It has been
suggested that nokia are aware of the problem but won't acknowledge
it, allegedly.
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> On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:06:06 +0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;
>>
>>-call (duh
>>-SMS
>>-use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the 6230 phone
>>and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like to use that for
>>sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my PDA.
>>-occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to my PDA.
>>
>>the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.
>>
>>Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should I look
>>further?
>>
>
> 4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with pda -
> gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down & reboots or just drop the
> connection to gprs. I would wait to check that the new firmware 5.14
> resolves this otherwise I think you might be disappointed. It has been
> suggested that nokia are aware of the problem but won't acknowledge
> it, allegedly.
> --
> Kraggash
>
> Infamy, infamy .......

How do you upgrade the firmware, and where do you get it?

Thanx

snip

>How do you upgrade the firmware, and where do you get it?
>
>Thanx
>

a club nokia service centre, free under warranty.

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005, at 21:42:34 [GMT +0000] (08:42:34 Thursday, 6 January
2005 where I live) "Kraggash" wrote:

> I would wait to check that the new firmware 5.14

I think you mean 5.24?

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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:42:34 +0000, Kraggash
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:06:06 +0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;
>>
>>-call (duh
>>-SMS
>>-use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the 6230 phone
>>and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like to use that for
>>sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my PDA.
>>-occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to my PDA.
>>
>>the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.
>>
>>Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should I look
>>further?
>>
>
>4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with pda -
>gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down & reboots or just drop the
>connection to gprs. I would wait to check that the new firmware 5.14
>resolves this otherwise I think you might be disappointed.

I wonder if v5.24 does fix these problems?

If anyone out there has this release, could they confirm that a GPRS
connection via Bluetooth will stay connected for more than just a few
minutes?

Chris

Reply to message from Chris Blunt <[email protected]> (Thu, 06
Jan 2005 13:01:23) about "Re: Nokia 6230, good choice?":


CB> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:42:34 +
CB> 0000, Kraggash <mungmoney. [email protected]> wrote:

>> On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:06:06 +0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> Hello All,

>>> I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;

>>> -call (duh
>>> -SMS
>>> -use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the
>>> 6230 phone and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like to
>>> use that for sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my PDA.
>>> -occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to my
>>> PDA.

>>> the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.

>>> Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should I
>>> look further?


>> 4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with
>> pda - gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down
>> & reboots or just drop the connection to gprs. I would wait to check
>> that the new firmware 5.14 resolves this otherwise I think you might
>> be disappointed.

CB> I wonder if v5.24 does fix these problems?

CB> If anyone out there has this release, could they confirm that a
CB> GPRS connection via Bluetooth will stay connected for more than
CB> just a few minutes?

CB> Chris

Thanks for your comments so far, instead of buying a 6230 I better look
further. Too bad though, it seemed like what I wanted to have.


Bye
Marcel <[email protected]> Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:25:50 +0200

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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:01:23 +0000, Chris Blunt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:42:34 +0000, Kraggash
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:06:06 +0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hello All,
>>>
>>>I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;
>>>
>>>-call (duh
>>>-SMS
>>>-use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the 6230 phone
>>>and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like to use that for
>>>sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my PDA.
>>>-occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to my PDA.
>>>
>>>the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.
>>>
>>>Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should I look
>>>further?
>>>
>>
>>4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with pda -
>>gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down & reboots or just drop the
>>connection to gprs. I would wait to check that the new firmware 5.14
>>resolves this otherwise I think you might be disappointed.
>
>I wonder if v5.24 does fix these problems?
>
>If anyone out there has this release, could they confirm that a GPRS
>connection via Bluetooth will stay connected for more than just a few
>minutes?
>
>Chris

Nokia uk are still using 4.44 (as of yesterday)
The service centre also denied it was an issue 'we've never heard of
it'

--
Kraggash

Infamy, infamy .......

Reply to message from Kraggash <[email protected]> (Thu, 06
Jan 2005 23:33:44) about "Re: Nokia 6230, good choice?":


K> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:01:23 +0000, Chris Blunt <chris_
K> blunt@despammed. com> wrote:

>> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:42:34 +0000, Kraggash <mungmoney.
>> [email protected]> wrote:

>>> On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:06:06 +
>>> 0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>> Hello All,

>>>> I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;

>>>> -call (duh
>>>> -SMS
>>>> -use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the
>>>> 6230 phone and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like to
>>>> use that for sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my PDA.
>>>> -occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to
>>>> my PDA.

>>>> the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.

>>>> Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should
>>>> I look further?


>>> 4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with
>>> pda - gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down & reboots or just
>>> drop the connection to gprs. I would wait to check that the new
>>> firmware 5.14 resolves this otherwise I think you might be
>>> disappointed.

>> I wonder if v5.24 does fix these problems?

>> If anyone out there has this release, could they confirm that a GPRS
>> connection via Bluetooth will stay connected for more than just a
>> few minutes?

>> Chris

K> Nokia uk are still using 4.44 (as of yesterday) The service centre
K> also denied it was an issue 'we've never heard of it'

K> --
K> Kraggash

K> Infamy, infamy .......

This really is of much help (and warning), thank you all. It seems like
I want something that isn't commercially interesting yet to pay
attention to by nokia or the telco operators. All information the shops
here can give me is about monthly fee's, how many ringtones the phones
can handle, that I can send MMS, buy a headset, how many hours the phone
can be on standby and stuff. But I can get that info from www.nokia.com
myself. So far not even one(!) telco shop could assure me using the
phone as a gprs modem for my pda is possible with any type or brand
phone, they all said "probably but never seen it". They don't know a
thing about it it seems but were still trying to sell it to me! And a
request to take a phone out of the box, put my sim with gprs membership
in it and see if we can get the theory to work (if it does I'll take it)
was denied because they only have those fake plastic showmodels so you
can play with the keys.

Now one of my colleagues here appears to have a 6230 since this week *
fake friendly smile*, so far she uses it only to call and take pictures
but maybe I can get her to swap the sim so I can test if the BT & GPRS
thingy works. Anyone knows how I can see the software version on that
phone?

Bye
Marcel <[email protected]> Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:12:29 +0200

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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, at 09:54:12 [GMT +0200] (18:54:12 Friday, 7 January
2005 where I live) "Marcel" wrote:

> Anyone knows how I can see the software version on that
> phone?

*#0000# (star hash zero zero zero zero hash)

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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:33:44 +0000, Kraggash
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:01:23 +0000, Chris Blunt
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:42:34 +0000, Kraggash
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:06:06 +0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello All,
>>>>
>>>>I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;
>>>>
>>>>-call (duh
>>>>-SMS
>>>>-use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the 6230 phone
>>>>and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like to use that for
>>>>sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my PDA.
>>>>-occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to my PDA.
>>>>
>>>>the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.
>>>>
>>>>Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should I look
>>>>further?
>>>>
>>>
>>>4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with pda -
>>>gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down & reboots or just drop the
>>>connection to gprs. I would wait to check that the new firmware 5.14
>>>resolves this otherwise I think you might be disappointed.
>>
>>I wonder if v5.24 does fix these problems?
>>
>>If anyone out there has this release, could they confirm that a GPRS
>>connection via Bluetooth will stay connected for more than just a few
>>minutes?
>>
>>Chris
>
>Nokia uk are still using 4.44 (as of yesterday)
>The service centre also denied it was an issue 'we've never heard of
>it'

At least now that you've made them aware of the problem they can't
claim they've never heard about it any more. Or will they?

Chris

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:54:12 +0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:

>Reply to message from Kraggash <[email protected]> (Thu, 06
>Jan 2005 23:33:44) about "Re: Nokia 6230, good choice?":
>
>
> K> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:01:23 +0000, Chris Blunt <chris_
> K> blunt@despammed. com> wrote:
>
> >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:42:34 +0000, Kraggash <mungmoney.
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:06:06 +
> >>> 0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> Hello All,
>
> >>>> I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;
>
> >>>> -call (duh
> >>>> -SMS
> >>>> -use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the
> >>>> 6230 phone and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like to
> >>>> use that for sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my PDA.
> >>>> -occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to
> >>>> my PDA.
>
> >>>> the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.
>
> >>>> Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should
> >>>> I look further?
>
>
> >>> 4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with
> >>> pda - gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down & reboots or just
> >>> drop the connection to gprs. I would wait to check that the new
> >>> firmware 5.14 resolves this otherwise I think you might be
> >>> disappointed.
>
> >> I wonder if v5.24 does fix these problems?
>
> >> If anyone out there has this release, could they confirm that a GPRS
> >> connection via Bluetooth will stay connected for more than just a
> >> few minutes?
>
> >> Chris
>
> K> Nokia uk are still using 4.44 (as of yesterday) The service centre
> K> also denied it was an issue 'we've never heard of it'
>
> K> --
> K> Kraggash
>
> K> Infamy, infamy .......
>
>This really is of much help (and warning), thank you all. It seems like
>I want something that isn't commercially interesting yet to pay
>attention to by nokia or the telco operators. All information the shops
>here can give me is about monthly fee's, how many ringtones the phones
>can handle, that I can send MMS, buy a headset, how many hours the phone
>can be on standby and stuff. But I can get that info from www.nokia.com
>myself. So far not even one(!) telco shop could assure me using the
>phone as a gprs modem for my pda is possible with any type or brand
>phone, they all said "probably but never seen it". They don't know a
>thing about it it seems but were still trying to sell it to me! And a
>request to take a phone out of the box, put my sim with gprs membership
>in it and see if we can get the theory to work (if it does I'll take it)
>was denied because they only have those fake plastic showmodels so you
>can play with the keys.
>
>Now one of my colleagues here appears to have a 6230 since this week *
>fake friendly smile*, so far she uses it only to call and take pictures
>but maybe I can get her to swap the sim so I can test if the BT & GPRS
>thingy works. Anyone knows how I can see the software version on that
>phone?

*#0000#

Please post the result here if you can persuade your friend to let you
test it.

I never had this problem when using v3.15 firmware. Its only since I
started using a 6230 with v4.43 that its happened.

Chris

>>>>>Any recommendations if the 6230 is a good choice for me or should I look
>>>>>further?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with pda -
>>>>gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down & reboots or just drop the
>>>>connection to gprs. I would wait to check that the new firmware 5.14
>>>>resolves this otherwise I think you might be disappointed.
>>>
>>>I wonder if v5.24 does fix these problems?
>>>
>>>If anyone out there has this release, could they confirm that a GPRS
>>>connection via Bluetooth will stay connected for more than just a few
>>>minutes?
>>>
>>>Chris
>>
>>Nokia uk are still using 4.44 (as of yesterday)
>>The service centre also denied it was an issue 'we've never heard of
>>it'
>
>At least now that you've made them aware of the problem they can't
>claim they've never heard about it any more. Or will they?
>
I bet they will, they claimed never to look at any websites but
nokias!

--
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Infamy, infamy .......

Reply to message from Chris Blunt <[email protected]> (Fri, 07
Jan 2005 16:51:42) about "Re: Nokia 6230, good choice?":


CB> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:54:12 +0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Reply to message from Kraggash <[email protected]>
>> (Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:33:44) about "Re: Nokia 6230, good choice?":


>> K> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:01:23 +
>> 0000, Chris Blunt <chris_ K> blunt@despammed. com> wrote:

>>>> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:42:34 +
>>>> 0000, Kraggash <mungmoney. [email protected]> wrote:

>>>>> On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:06:06 +
>>>>> 0200, Marcel <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>>>> Hello All,

>>>>>> I consider buying the 6230 type, what I want to do with it is;

>>>>>> -call (duh
>>>>>> -SMS
>>>>>> -use it as a 'modem' for my PDA, by using bluetooth between the
>>>>>> 6230 phone and the PDA. My ISP supports GPRS access so I'd like
>>>>>> to use that for sending/ receiving mail, news and stuff on my
>>>>>> PDA.
>>>>>> -occasionally take pictures and send them via MMS or transfer to
>>>>>> my PDA.

>>>>>> the pda is a Loox 610BT/WLAN with WM2003 by the way.

>>>>>> Any recommendations if the
>>>>>> 6230 is a good choice for me or should I look further?


>>>>> 4.44 firmware on this phone seems to give a lot of problems with
>>>>> pda - gprs via bluetooth, phone either shuts down & reboots or
>>>>> just drop the connection to gprs. I would wait to check that the
>>>>> new firmware 5.14 resolves this otherwise I think you might be
>>>>> disappointed.

>>>> I wonder if v5.24 does fix these problems?

>>>> If anyone out there has this release, could they confirm that a
>>>> GPRS connection via Bluetooth will stay connected for more than
>>>> just a few minutes?

>>>> Chris

>> K> Nokia uk are still using 4.44 (as of yesterday) The service
>> centre K> also denied it was an issue 'we've never heard of it'

>> K> --
>> K> Kraggash

>> K> Infamy, infamy .......

>> This really is of much help (and warning), thank you all. It seems
>> like I want something that isn't commercially interesting yet to pay
>> attention to by nokia or the telco operators. All information the
>> shops here can give me is about monthly fee's, how many ringtones
>> the phones can handle, that I can send MMS, buy a headset, how many
>> hours the phone can be on standby and stuff. But I can get that info
>> from www.nokia.com myself. So far not even one(!) telco shop could
>> assure me using the phone as a gprs modem for my pda is possible
>> with any type or brand phone, they all said "probably but never seen
>> it". They don't know a thing about it it seems but were still trying
>> to sell it to me! And a request to take a phone out of the box, put
>> my sim with gprs membership in it and see if we can get the theory
>> to work (if it does I'll take it) was denied because they only have
>> those fake plastic showmodels so you can play with the keys.

>> Now one of my colleagues here appears to have a 6230 since this
>> week * fake friendly smile*, so far she uses it only to call and
>> take pictures but maybe I can get her to swap the sim so I can test
>> if the BT & GPRS thingy works. Anyone knows how I can see the
>> software version on that phone?

CB> *#0000#

CB> Please post the result here if you can persuade your friend to let
CB> you test it.

CB> I never had this problem when using v3.15 firmware. Its only since
CB> I started using a 6230 with v4.43 that its happened.

CB> Chris

And the outcome of that 6230 is:

v04.28,
24-06-04
RH-12
GSM p1.1

That doesn't sound too new to me? The pda was able to bond with the
phone and connect to the serial port listed in services. Unfortunately
her 6230 is blocked for other (mine) providers so I couldn't test
further on the gprs connection while using my sim. :-(


Bye
Marcel <[email protected]> Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:17:01 +0200

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Marcel wrote:


> Unfortunately
> her 6230 is blocked for other (mine) providers so I couldn't test
> further on the gprs connection while using my sim. :-(

Goto www.unlockme.co.uk and calculate the unlock code for free.

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