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  1. #1
    New Yorker
    Guest
    My plan still has wireless web and my new phone has vision. I don't want
    vision - I just want the wireless web I always had. I set the modem up for
    use with wireless web (#2932, username/password Web) but it doesn't connect.
    Suggestions or comments?

    thanks.





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  2. #2
    John Richards
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    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    New Yorker wrote:
    > My plan still has wireless web and my new phone has vision. I don't want
    > vision - I just want the wireless web I always had. I set the modem up for
    > use with wireless web (#2932, username/password Web) but it doesn't connect.
    > Suggestions or comments?


    I don't know if Wireless Web is supposed to work with Vision phones.
    Why don't you want to use Vision for this, is it the $15 versus $5 per month?
    If so, don't get the Vision pack, just pay the ala cart price, $0.01 per kilobyte.





  3. #3
    Cary S. Hedges
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    Wireless Web is not available via the Vision phones.

    Cary S. Hedges

    "John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > New Yorker wrote:
    > > My plan still has wireless web and my new phone has vision. I don't

    want
    > > vision - I just want the wireless web I always had. I set the modem up

    for
    > > use with wireless web (#2932, username/password Web) but it doesn't

    connect.
    > > Suggestions or comments?

    >
    > I don't know if Wireless Web is supposed to work with Vision phones.
    > Why don't you want to use Vision for this, is it the $15 versus $5 per

    month?
    > If so, don't get the Vision pack, just pay the ala cart price, $0.01 per

    kilobyte.
    >
    >







  4. #4
    Terry Knab
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?


    "New Yorker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > My plan still has wireless web and my new phone has vision. I don't want
    > vision - I just want the wireless web I always had. I set the modem up

    for
    > use with wireless web (#2932, username/password Web) but it doesn't

    connect.
    > Suggestions or comments?


    Spring for the Vision. It does not use minutes (WW does), and WW is not
    compatible in any way shape or form with Vision phones. It simply will not
    work.





  5. #5
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    New [email protected] says...
    > My plan still has wireless web and my new phone has vision. I don't want
    > vision - I just want the wireless web I always had. I set the modem up f=

    or
    > use with wireless web (#2932, username/password Web) but it doesn't conne=

    ct.
    > Suggestions or comments?
    >=20
    > thanks.


    Yeah. Save yourself the heartache and send me the=20
    $0.39/min you're going to pay if you ever get that to work.



    Vision phones do not access the Wireless Web servers, and=20
    so will *always* be charged casual usage rates if you ever=20
    succeed in that.

    --=20
    -+-
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



  6. #6
    Joseph Huber
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:22:04 GMT, "John Richards"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >New Yorker wrote:
    >> My plan still has wireless web and my new phone has vision. I don't want
    >> vision - I just want the wireless web I always had. I set the modem up for
    >> use with wireless web (#2932, username/password Web) but it doesn't connect.
    >> Suggestions or comments?

    >
    >I don't know if Wireless Web is supposed to work with Vision phones.
    >Why don't you want to use Vision for this, is it the $15 versus $5 per month?
    >If so, don't get the Vision pack, just pay the ala cart price, $0.01 per kilobyte.


    It sounds like he primarily uses WW for laptop/computer connectivity
    which, of course, is not permitted with Vision. In the short run, if
    you need WW, you might have to get rid of your Vision phone and buy a
    used Sprint phone that supports WW. Lots of them on ebay...

    WW is SPCS' only cost-effective, reasonably-priced means for computer
    connectivity. Sadly, I'm finding it more and more difficult to use WW
    for laptop connectivity. The slow speed of WW makes it very difficult
    to browse websites and receive email loaded with HTML and graphics.

    I'm always hopeful that SPCS will change this foolish policy of
    prohibiting laptop use with Vision, and adopt a policy similar to
    Verizon's. It could happen. It looks like they've dumped one of
    their stupid policies and will be offering Motorola phones again in
    the near future. However, reversing two stupid policies may be too
    much to ask.

    Joseph Huber
    [email protected]



  7. #7
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    Sprint PCS does not prohibit laptop use with Vision. Get a PCMCIA
    Connection Card, set up a Connection Card plan, and use Vision on your
    laptop all you want. Talk about the right tool for the right job. The
    rumor is it even works faster/better.


    Joseph Huber wrote:

    > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:22:04 GMT, "John Richards"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>New Yorker wrote:
    >>
    >>>My plan still has wireless web and my new phone has vision. I don't want
    >>>vision - I just want the wireless web I always had. I set the modem up for
    >>>use with wireless web (#2932, username/password Web) but it doesn't connect.
    >>>Suggestions or comments?

    >>
    >>I don't know if Wireless Web is supposed to work with Vision phones.
    >>Why don't you want to use Vision for this, is it the $15 versus $5 per month?
    >>If so, don't get the Vision pack, just pay the ala cart price, $0.01 per kilobyte.

    >
    >
    > It sounds like he primarily uses WW for laptop/computer connectivity
    > which, of course, is not permitted with Vision. In the short run, if
    > you need WW, you might have to get rid of your Vision phone and buy a
    > used Sprint phone that supports WW. Lots of them on ebay...
    >
    > WW is SPCS' only cost-effective, reasonably-priced means for computer
    > connectivity. Sadly, I'm finding it more and more difficult to use WW
    > for laptop connectivity. The slow speed of WW makes it very difficult
    > to browse websites and receive email loaded with HTML and graphics.
    >
    > I'm always hopeful that SPCS will change this foolish policy of
    > prohibiting laptop use with Vision, and adopt a policy similar to
    > Verizon's. It could happen. It looks like they've dumped one of
    > their stupid policies and will be offering Motorola phones again in
    > the near future. However, reversing two stupid policies may be too
    > much to ask.
    >
    > Joseph Huber
    > [email protected]





  8. #8
    Chris Taylor Jr
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    Sure if you want to pay double what you would for home broadband at a
    fraction of the speed. (I get 300k down at home)

    One of the reasons I LIKE sprint is that I can pay an extra $15 and get some
    remote net access. now if you are a HEAVY and FREQUENT user of wireless net
    then OK I agree with you.

    but that card is $200 and then $60-$70 a month (I believe you can get it
    that low might be more) and its not even unlimited.!!!

    That is designed for buisness users. not personal users.

    but again I agree heavy users should find something else and sprint should
    go after them. they are using way to much of a VERY limited badnwidth.

    That is why I am glad that sprint "looks the other way" to casual usage for
    those that are respectful of a otherwise very strained and limited system.

    As long as they continue this customer oriented thinking I will remain very
    happy as a sprint customer.

    Chris Taylor
    http://www.nerys.com/



    "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Sprint PCS does not prohibit laptop use with Vision. Get a PCMCIA
    > Connection Card, set up a Connection Card plan, and use Vision on your
    > laptop all you want. Talk about the right tool for the right job. The
    > rumor is it even works faster/better.
    >






  9. #9
    Matt
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    how does something like this look
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ory=35210&rd=1


    do you have to pay extra to use this if you have a vision plan


    "O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    In article <[email protected]>,
    New [email protected] says...
    > My plan still has wireless web and my new phone has vision. I don't want
    > vision - I just want the wireless web I always had. I set the modem up

    for
    > use with wireless web (#2932, username/password Web) but it doesn't

    connect.
    > Suggestions or comments?
    >
    > thanks.


    Yeah. Save yourself the heartache and send me the
    $0.39/min you're going to pay if you ever get that to work.



    Vision phones do not access the Wireless Web servers, and
    so will *always* be charged casual usage rates if you ever
    succeed in that.

    --
    -+-
    RØß
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.





  10. #10
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    [email protected] says...
    > how does something like this look
    > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7754&category=

    =3D35210&rd=3D1
    >=20
    >=20
    > do you have to pay extra to use this if you have a vision plan
    >=20


    Heheh, here we go again. That cable does what it claims to=20
    do. No fraud there, so SPCS can't force people to stop=20
    selling it. What we *can* do, right in our newly published=20
    Terms and Conditions, is say:

    "Unlimited PCS Vision plans/options are only available with=20
    phones or PCS smart phones where the device is not being=20
    used as a modem in connection with other equipment (e.g.,=20
    computers, PDAs, etc.) through use of connection kits or=20
    other phone-to-computer/PDA accessories, or Bluetooth or=20
    other wireless technology. Sprint reserves the right to=20
    deny or to terminate service without notice for any=20
    misuse."

    http://www.sprintpcs.com/common/popu...alTermsPrivacy
    ..html (under the heading "Other Terms Applicable to PCS=20
    Vision Usage.")

    So, strictly by the book, the only way to use that data=20
    cable is to pay a penny per KB of data while using it. And=20
    you use Vision while doing that. You *can* use that cable=20
    to hook up to, for example, AOL, but then you're in a=20
    circuit-switched data call that maxes out at 14.4kBps and=20
    charges $0.39/min while you do it.

    If you buy that cable, hook up with one of our Vision=20
    plans, and then start using it, you're in violation of=20
    those T&C's. And we *can* cancel your Vision package on=20
    you, and then force *all* your Vision usage to be casual.

    That said, though, the only time I've seen it enforced has=20
    been for BIG users, gigabytes of data over at least two=20
    months. And a bill as high as $4,500 by the time they've=20
    been shut down and we in Tier 1 get to tell them the story=20
    because Customer Care doesn't want to deal with their=20
    yelling anymore

    Infrequent or occasionally use, though? So far, though,=20
    light users haven't come across my line because of this. =20
    But, again, look at the wording above. *Any* of it can get=20
    your pack removed. Permanently.

    --=20
    -+-
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



  11. #11
    David
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    How does one determine how much data has transmitted using vision? Is there
    somewhere I can find this out on sprint's website?

    Thanks.






    On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 0:59:45 -0800, O/Siris wrote
    (in message <[email protected]>):

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >> how does something like this look
    >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=3521
    >> 0&rd=1
    >>
    >>
    >> do you have to pay extra to use this if you have a vision plan
    >>

    >
    > Heheh, here we go again. That cable does what it claims to
    > do. No fraud there, so SPCS can't force people to stop
    > selling it. What we *can* do, right in our newly published
    > Terms and Conditions, is say:
    >
    > "Unlimited PCS Vision plans/options are only available with
    > phones or PCS smart phones where the device is not being
    > used as a modem in connection with other equipment (e.g.,
    > computers, PDAs, etc.) through use of connection kits or
    > other phone-to-computer/PDA accessories, or Bluetooth or
    > other wireless technology. Sprint reserves the right to
    > deny or to terminate service without notice for any
    > misuse."
    >
    > http://www.sprintpcs.com/common/popu...alTermsPrivacy
    > .html (under the heading "Other Terms Applicable to PCS
    > Vision Usage.")
    >
    > So, strictly by the book, the only way to use that data
    > cable is to pay a penny per KB of data while using it. And
    > you use Vision while doing that. You *can* use that cable
    > to hook up to, for example, AOL, but then you're in a
    > circuit-switched data call that maxes out at 14.4kBps and
    > charges $0.39/min while you do it.
    >
    > If you buy that cable, hook up with one of our Vision
    > plans, and then start using it, you're in violation of
    > those T&C's. And we *can* cancel your Vision package on
    > you, and then force *all* your Vision usage to be casual.
    >
    > That said, though, the only time I've seen it enforced has
    > been for BIG users, gigabytes of data over at least two
    > months. And a bill as high as $4,500 by the time they've
    > been shut down and we in Tier 1 get to tell them the story
    > because Customer Care doesn't want to deal with their
    > yelling anymore
    >
    > Infrequent or occasionally use, though? So far, though,
    > light users haven't come across my line because of this.
    > But, again, look at the wording above. *Any* of it can get
    > your pack removed. Permanently.
    >
    >






  12. #12
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?


    "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > How does one determine how much data has transmitted using vision? Is

    there
    > somewhere I can find this out on sprint's website?
    >
    > Thanks.


    Unfortunately ... no, not on SPCS's site. You might be able to check the
    total Vision usage on your handset though. For the 5300 & 4900, you would
    dial ##786, then OK, then scroll down to save phone #, and click OK. Data
    usage will show up on the screen. I'm not sure of the instructions for other
    models. If you pass on which model you have, someone can pipe in with the
    instructions on how to check that.



    Bob





  13. #13
    Ian
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    I have got a question.

    Just over a year ago I signed a 2 year deal with PCS and use a Samsung
    A500 phone and get both 200AT minutes and Free Unlimited Vision on the
    phone.

    I am having some problems with this phone and may need to change it.
    That's not my issue though.

    I hear that IF I replace my phone with a PPC2003 type, SprintPCS will
    likely ADD considerable charges, because ALL PPC based phones are
    treated differently because of their additional capabilities. Web
    browsing, emailing, file sending receiving etc.

    Last I heard the Palm based phones were NOT hit with these sort of
    extra charges... IS this still the situation if I buy a new phone wuch
    as either say a Treo 600 or a Samsung i500?

    Thanks



  14. #14
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?


    "Ian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I have got a question.
    >
    > Just over a year ago I signed a 2 year deal with PCS and use a Samsung
    > A500 phone and get both 200AT minutes and Free Unlimited Vision on the
    > phone.
    >
    > I am having some problems with this phone and may need to change it.
    > That's not my issue though.
    >
    > I hear that IF I replace my phone with a PPC2003 type, SprintPCS will
    > likely ADD considerable charges, because ALL PPC based phones are
    > treated differently because of their additional capabilities. Web
    > browsing, emailing, file sending receiving etc.
    >
    > Last I heard the Palm based phones were NOT hit with these sort of
    > extra charges... IS this still the situation if I buy a new phone wuch
    > as either say a Treo 600 or a Samsung i500?
    >
    > Thanks


    First off, I believe you meant to say 2000 AT minutes ... . As to any
    possible additional charges, have you tried calling CS and see what they
    say?

    Bob





  15. #15
    Ian
    Guest

    Re: wireless web on a vision phone?

    >
    > First off, I believe you meant to say 2000 AT minutes ... . As to any
    > possible additional charges, have you tried calling CS and see what they
    > say?
    >
    > Bob


    Yes correct 2,000 AT minutes.

    Yes I have called several times. Each time the CS people have not got
    a clue what I am talking about and inevitably put me on hold and I
    eventually get disconected. Sorry to say but there must be high churn
    and/or a lack of training amongst the CS staff.

    Eventually this afternoon I managed to get another CS person who again
    knew nothing about the subject of my question. I had to guide her to
    the SprintPCS website which specifically says that ALL MS PPC type
    Vision phones will be subject to a possible $30.00 monthly charge is
    one uses Vision. CS then told me this meant I could have such a phone
    and not use the service and escape the charge. I pointed out that this
    was highly unlikley, so I pushed for further research. Well another 20
    minutes or so I WAS given the "answer". I am still very unsure this is
    the "real" answer, but it has certainly "clarified" my worst fears.

    Basically the CS verbally listed ALL the phones which SprintPCS
    currently SELL which WILL be hit with the $30.00 pm Fee per phone.
    These include NOT ONLY all the MS type PPC phones But ALL the Palm
    based phones Samsung i300/i330/i500 Treo 600/300 and many others I
    didn't write down.
    Given that all phones are becoming smarter it looks as though my
    choice of phones for my "Unlimited Vision" part of my contract with
    PCS is dwindlying fast. If I am to continue with my all I can eat
    Vision current service which i use on my current A500 (for checking
    several websites and receiving some text messages etc) when I am away
    from a desktop.

    Sounds like PCS are continuing to redefine their PAY for Vision
    services in a hurry even for relatively casual users of the newer
    ranges of phones.



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