30 days later and I finall got my number ported fro AT&T Wireless ! ! !

Yes Folks ! ! !

I requested my number to be ported from AT&T Wireless to Sprint on Nov.24
and it FINALLY happened today . . .

I gotta LAFF . . . They called me to advise me that I may be required to pay
up to $200.00 in EARLY TERMINATION fees . . .



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MPN <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes Folks ! ! !
>
> I requested my number to be ported from AT&T Wireless to Sprint on Nov.24
> and it FINALLY happened today . . .
>
> I gotta LAFF . . . They called me to advise me that I may be required to pay
> up to $200.00 in EARLY TERMINATION fees . . .

Was your contract up?

If not, they can charge you, and report you to the credit bureaus and/or
sue if you don't pay, and they will be perfectly within their legal rights
to do so.

Your only way out might be if the service was completely unusable - and
even then, they don't guarantee service everywhere, but if your service was
OK and subsequently went to hell, you have a good argument for not paying
the ETF. Do be aware that if you go that route you will most likely end up
in court.

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Steven I think he was laffing because it took 30 days for him to get his
number successfully ported and they called to advise him of the term fee.
I don't think he's disputing the charge from what I gather.

"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> MPN <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yes Folks ! ! !
> >
> > I requested my number to be ported from AT&T Wireless to Sprint on
Nov.24
> > and it FINALLY happened today . . .
> >
> > I gotta LAFF . . . They called me to advise me that I may be required to
pay
> > up to $200.00 in EARLY TERMINATION fees . . .
>
> Was your contract up?
>
> If not, they can charge you, and report you to the credit bureaus and/or
> sue if you don't pay, and they will be perfectly within their legal rights
> to do so.
>
> Your only way out might be if the service was completely unusable - and
> even then, they don't guarantee service everywhere, but if your service
was
> OK and subsequently went to hell, you have a good argument for not paying
> the ETF. Do be aware that if you go that route you will most likely end up
> in court.
>
> --
> JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
> 22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
> Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) * [email protected]
>

Well Steven,

The way I understand it is that AT&T Wireless sold GSM service to their TDMA
subscribers and anyone else for that matter at cheaper rates with a free
phone, KNOWING FULLY WELL that the service would be UNSATISFACTORY as their
equipment here in the US was NOT totally compatible with GSM due to their
existing antennas are NOT tunable to GSM's higher frequency as well as other
equipment compatibility issues. My issues were way too many dropped calls,
and most everyone I would speak with would tell me to call them back when I
could get to a REAL PHONE, as they said I was breaking up so bad that they
couldn't understand me and also that it sounded like I had my head in a
toilet bowl. The echo was so bad at times that I would tell the other party
that I would call them back on a land line phone. I had to buy a Calling
Card just for this purpose. We're talking about Los Angeles metro area ! ! !

One person in a NG explained that AT&T Wireless committed a fraud, as they
prematurely sold GSM service to generate revenue to upgrade their system
using their SUBSCRIBER'S money rather than use their profits or borrow
capital to perform the necessary upgrades in a TIMELY manner. They knew in
August of 2002 when they started offering GSM that it would be 2 1/2 years
before they would have their GSM network FULLY OPERATIONAL to provide their
subscribers with adequate service, which they even admit. Since August 2002,
AT&T Wireless has given me 5 phones; telling me that they would solve my
problem. They even gave me a Siemens S46 Multiband phone, which they swore
up & down would remedy the problem, which of course didn't . . .

It was also explained to me that they (AT&T Wireless) FAILED to FULFILL the
terms of my contract as they FAILED to offer me (and MANY if not ALL GSM
subscribers) USEABLE GSM SERVICE in the US coverage area. All anyone has to
do if their issue with AT&T Wireless ever goes to court, is to take their
GSM phone with them and let the JUDGE make a call on it ! ! !

I was told that I will get forms in my final bill along with a EARLY
TERMINATION CHARGE to submit to the FCC and PUC to dispute any Early
Termination Charges.

By the way, AT&T Wireless is having several Class Action Lawsuits filed
against them for this reason ! ! !

I'm now with Sprint and am TOTALLY satisfied with their area coverage &
VOICE QUALITY . . . It WORKS when I NEED IT ! ! !


"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> MPN <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yes Folks ! ! !
> >
> > I requested my number to be ported from AT&T Wireless to Sprint on
Nov.24
> > and it FINALLY happened today . . .
> >
> > I gotta LAFF . . . They called me to advise me that I may be required to
pay
> > up to $200.00 in EARLY TERMINATION fees . . .
>
> Was your contract up?
>
> If not, they can charge you, and report you to the credit bureaus and/or
> sue if you don't pay, and they will be perfectly within their legal rights
> to do so.
>
> Your only way out might be if the service was completely unusable - and
> even then, they don't guarantee service everywhere, but if your service
was
> OK and subsequently went to hell, you have a good argument for not paying
> the ETF. Do be aware that if you go that route you will most likely end up
> in court.
>
> --
> JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
> 22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
> Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) * [email protected]
>


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What's interesting is that when I am roaming on ATTWS GSM on my
Cingular 6340i Nation (GAIT) Plan, the quality is excellent. No
problems at all. I don't know what they were doing with their own
subscribers to cause all these problems. Also, their antennas did not
have to be 'tuned' for GSM as they were using the same frequencies.
They just had to add some new equipment inside the shack.

Chris
Please respond on Usenet
Happy Holidays



"MPN" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Well Steven,
>
> The way I understand it is that AT&T Wireless sold GSM service to their TDMA
> subscribers and anyone else for that matter at cheaper rates with a free
> phone, KNOWING FULLY WELL that the service would be UNSATISFACTORY as their
> equipment here in the US was NOT totally compatible with GSM due to their
> existing antennas are NOT tunable to GSM's higher frequency as well as other
> equipment compatibility issues. My issues were way too many dropped calls,
> and most everyone I would speak with would tell me to call them back when I
> could get to a REAL PHONE, as they said I was breaking up so bad that they
> couldn't understand me and also that it sounded like I had my head in a
> toilet bowl. The echo was so bad at times that I would tell the other party
> that I would call them back on a land line phone. I had to buy a Calling
> Card just for this purpose. We're talking about Los Angeles metro area ! ! !
>
> One person in a NG explained that AT&T Wireless committed a fraud, as they
> prematurely sold GSM service to generate revenue to upgrade their system
> using their SUBSCRIBER'S money rather than use their profits or borrow
> capital to perform the necessary upgrades in a TIMELY manner. They knew in
> August of 2002 when they started offering GSM that it would be 2 1/2 years
> before they would have their GSM network FULLY OPERATIONAL to provide their
> subscribers with adequate service, which they even admit. Since August 2002,
> AT&T Wireless has given me 5 phones; telling me that they would solve my
> problem. They even gave me a Siemens S46 Multiband phone, which they swore
> up & down would remedy the problem, which of course didn't . . .
>
> It was also explained to me that they (AT&T Wireless) FAILED to FULFILL the
> terms of my contract as they FAILED to offer me (and MANY if not ALL GSM
> subscribers) USEABLE GSM SERVICE in the US coverage area. All anyone has to
> do if their issue with AT&T Wireless ever goes to court, is to take their
> GSM phone with them and let the JUDGE make a call on it ! ! !
>
> I was told that I will get forms in my final bill along with a EARLY
> TERMINATION CHARGE to submit to the FCC and PUC to dispute any Early
> Termination Charges.
>
> By the way, AT&T Wireless is having several Class Action Lawsuits filed
> against them for this reason ! ! !
>
> I'm now with Sprint and am TOTALLY satisfied with their area coverage &
> VOICE QUALITY . . . It WORKS when I NEED IT ! ! !