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  1. #46
    Røbert M
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Bob
    > >
    > > Projecting Bob, projecting; just because you got lucky doesn't make it
    > > not so.
    > >
    > > You started with:
    > >
    > > * give us a break, no way, that "never" happened
    > >
    > > After another poster confirmed, the post morphed to
    > >
    > > * It "might have" been a typo
    > >
    > > After I posted the URL, you more recent posts
    > >
    > > * state that only then did you look and that is when you noticed the
    > > comments where a poster said it was an error
    > > * did you notice a later poster saying "Sprint has now raised the
    > > price to $250 from their $199 original offering. Too bad if you did
    > > not jump on this deal earlier".
    > >
    > > Basically all one needs to do is read what "you" wrote to see you post
    > > things "adamantly as fact" when in fact you are only guessing. Just
    > > because you guessed correct doesn't score you any points. Like they
    > > say a broken clock is right twice a day

    >
    > Ron, I said in my first follow up to the original post, it could have been a
    > typo ... and it was confirmed in a message that I requoted verbatim ...
    >
    > I don't know why you keep harping on this, save for the fact you can't get
    > over the fact a mistake was make by whoever entered in the data onto SPCS's
    > website originally.
    >
    > You really are starting to look like one with an anal retentive personality.


    Bingo, the insults start. heavens forfend he admit he was wrong.



    See More: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales




  2. #47
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales


    "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    <snipped>

    > I feel your pain Ron. Be glad Smith hasn't started using 4 letter
    > obscenity words against you like he is wont to do.


    Oh? and what four letter words would those be Phillipe. The ones you use to
    do bogus searches through Google? You surely are a Magog ...

    Bob





  3. #48
    Røbert M
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > <snipped>
    >
    > > I feel your pain Ron. Be glad Smith hasn't started using 4 letter
    > > obscenity words against you like he is wont to do.

    >
    > Oh? and what four letter words would those be Phillipe. The ones you use to
    > do bogus searches through Google? You surely are a Magog ...


    If the results prove you a liar they are bogus?



  4. #49
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales


    "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    <snipped>

    > > You really are starting to look like one with an anal retentive

    personality.
    >
    > Bingo, the insults start. heavens forfend he admit he was wrong.


    No ... that wasn't an insult, it was a perception ... And by the way
    Phillipe, you are the only insult in this newsgroup ... Actually 105 insults
    ....

    Bob





  5. #50
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales


    "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > <snipped>
    > >
    > > > I feel your pain Ron. Be glad Smith hasn't started using 4 letter
    > > > obscenity words against you like he is wont to do.

    > >
    > > Oh? and what four letter words would those be Phillipe. The ones you use

    to
    > > do bogus searches through Google? You surely are a Magog ...

    >
    > If the results prove you a liar they are bogus?


    What results? Your google searches? Those aren't results ... I've already
    explained it to you and everyone else how and why those results are bogus...

    Bob





  6. #51
    Røbert M
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > <snipped>
    >
    > > > You really are starting to look like one with an anal retentive

    > personality.
    > >
    > > Bingo, the insults start. heavens forfend he admit he was wrong.

    >
    > No ... that wasn't an insult, it was a perception


    RIGHT - you have your own definition for everything, and your own UNIQUE
    rules for usenet.



  7. #52
    Røbert M
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > > "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > <snipped>
    > > >
    > > > > I feel your pain Ron. Be glad Smith hasn't started using 4 letter
    > > > > obscenity words against you like he is wont to do.
    > > >
    > > > Oh? and what four letter words would those be Phillipe. The ones you use

    > to
    > > > do bogus searches through Google? You surely are a Magog ...

    > >
    > > If the results prove you a liar they are bogus?

    >
    > What results? Your google searches? Those aren't results ... I've already
    > explained it to you and everyone else how and why those results are bogus...


    http://www.google.com/groups?q=+****...ular.sprintpcs
    +author:Bob+author:Smith&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=J9sza.13597%24I
    o.1116466%40newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rnum=10

    Is that BOGUS?



  8. #53
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales


    "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Røbert M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > <snipped>
    > > > >
    > > > > > I feel your pain Ron. Be glad Smith hasn't started using 4 letter
    > > > > > obscenity words against you like he is wont to do.
    > > > >
    > > > > Oh? and what four letter words would those be Phillipe. The ones you

    use
    > > to
    > > > > do bogus searches through Google? You surely are a Magog ...
    > > >
    > > > If the results prove you a liar they are bogus?

    > >
    > > What results? Your google searches? Those aren't results ... I've

    already
    > > explained it to you and everyone else how and why those results are

    bogus...
    >
    > http://www.google.com/groups?q=+****...ular.sprintpcs
    > +author:Bob+author:Smith&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=J9sza.13597%24I
    > o.1116466%40newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rnum=10
    >
    > Is that BOGUS?


    Yes, totally bogus, but your proven use of the words you slam other posters
    by using is fact ... or do you deny that as well.

    Bob





  9. #54
    Ron
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    Robert

    Because it is small, good battery, great vioce quality and the first
    person to write a review (sprintuser.com) also noted in early tests it
    gets a signal what is typically a Sprint no service area. That is the
    same experience I had with my older Moto phone. That and it takes a
    lot of abuse (my wifes v60 on Alltel has held up really well)

    I should have mine Monday and will side-by-side against the Sanyo 8100
    (in a weak coverage area) and let you know. Where I live My Moto
    phone works "ok" where my sister-in-laws Sanyo is mostly out of
    service.

    Ron

    "Røbert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > O/Siris <0siris@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
    > > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > > In article <rmarkoff-906B59.10411618052004
    > > > @news06.east.earthlink.net>, [email protected] says...
    > > > >
    > > > > Somebody please tell me what is so special with this phone, when the GSM

    >
    > > > > V60's have been out for almost 3 years now.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > Honestly, I don't know. Our information sheet on it lists a 4K color
    > > > screen, and it does *not* list Vision as a feature of the phone.
    > > > There was a thread here recently debating the quality of Motorola
    > > > phones. It *does* seem there's a demand for one, though, based on
    > > > people who posted there. And, I guess, here they go.

    > >

    >
    >
    > Thanks for the straightforward answer. So I conclude:
    >
    > 1. The V60v is not a vision phone.
    >
    > 2. It has no new special features. (Its a 3 year old design)
    >
    > 3. Its being sold perhaps because Sprint expects a
    > demand for a Motorola phone.




  10. #55
    Ron
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    Bob

    Why don't you just admit that you state things (aggressively) as facts
    when you are just guessing?

    Anyone following your posts and reading carefully can see that only
    after claiming "give us a break, it never happened", you morphed to
    "maybe never happened". Then in later post its obvious that you had no
    clue and only afterward noticed a favorable comment in thread on a URL
    I directed you to.

    Odd how you ignore in the same URL that the editors at SprintUser say
    it was a price increase but cling to the single comment in a thread
    that said it was a "typo". Even if you guess right, another guy in the
    same thread, said it was too bad that you didn't get the phones when
    they where $200, before the price went up. Who was right?

    Maybe you guessed right, maybe not, the point is you are just guessing
    and yet sated your guesses as fact and can't admit it when cornered.

    Just say "Bob is just guessing" you will feel better, and remember to
    post more honestly in the future Bob.

    BTW Maybe one reason Sprint raised the price is that they are almost
    sold out, in under a week no less. I ordered one this morning, the
    guy at Telesales wasn't sure if it would ship because they are almost
    out of stock. Just, speculation on my part, and I don't mind saying
    it.


    Ron


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Bob
    > >
    > > Projecting Bob, projecting; just because you got lucky doesn't make it
    > > not so.
    > >
    > > You started with:
    > >
    > > * give us a break, no way, that "never" happened
    > >
    > > After another poster confirmed, the post morphed to
    > >
    > > * It "might have" been a typo
    > >
    > > After I posted the URL, you more recent posts
    > >
    > > * state that only then did you look and that is when you noticed the
    > > comments where a poster said it was an error
    > > * did you notice a later poster saying "Sprint has now raised the
    > > price to $250 from their $199 original offering. Too bad if you did
    > > not jump on this deal earlier".
    > >
    > > Basically all one needs to do is read what "you" wrote to see you post
    > > things "adamantly as fact" when in fact you are only guessing. Just
    > > because you guessed correct doesn't score you any points. Like they
    > > say a broken clock is right twice a day

    >
    > Ron, I said in my first follow up to the original post, it could have been a
    > typo ... and it was confirmed in a message that I requoted verbatim ...
    >
    > I don't know why you keep harping on this, save for the fact you can't get
    > over the fact a mistake was make by whoever entered in the data onto SPCS's
    > website originally.
    >
    > You really are starting to look like one with an anal retentive personality.
    >
    > Bob




  11. #56
    Larry Thomas
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    [email protected] (Ron) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Larry
    >
    > As you know my interest in the new phone is because in side-by-sides
    > with Sanyo and other supposedly better Sprint phone my p8767 gets a
    > signal when these other Sprint phones are out of service.
    >
    > In the review found at sprintuser.com the poster did a critical review
    > of the new phone. He noted the lack of bells and whistles, the UI,
    > etc? but had great things to say about its call quality and although
    > he notes he has had limited time to test it did get a signal in what
    > he previously considered a Sprint No Service.
    >
    > I am going to email him in a week or so and see how is call quality
    > testing is going. His early results match mine. The other phones are
    > great if you want the bells and whistles. However, if you need to
    > pull in a signal in a weak signal area better ditch the Sanyo and get
    > a Motorola phone.
    >
    >
    > Ron



    Sprint recently put up a new tower near my house so signal is not a
    problem for me. Any brand will work good here. My beef with many of
    the newer Sprint phones (especially Sanyos) is that the earpiece sound
    quality is not as good as they used to be. The Samsung A680 and
    Toshiba 4050 both have pretty good sound quality but the 4050 is
    lacking in volume so I can rule that one out. If the Motorola was
    Vision capable I probably would pick one up right away. I have the
    old $10/mo Vision plan which is too good to cancel. I can live without
    a camera, RL capabilities, speakerphones and other bells and whistles
    but I must have my Vision. Looks like it will be the A680 for me. I'm
    up for the 18 month rebate program on July 8th so I might wait until
    then to get it. I've always liked the looks & size of the V60 and it
    appears to be built very well. If only it was Vision capable.



  12. #57
    Ron
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    Bob

    Why don't you just admit that you state things (aggressively) as facts
    when you are just guessing?

    Any one following your posts can read that only after claiming "give
    us a break, it never happened", you morphed to "maybe never happened".
    Then later your post makes it obvious that you had no clue until you
    saw a comment thread on a URL I directed you to. Odd how you ignore
    that the editors at SprintUser say it was a price increase buy cling
    to a single a guy in the comment thread, that said it was a "typo",
    even if you guess right, another guy in the same thread, said it was
    too bad that you didn't get the phones when they where $200, before
    the price went up.

    Maybe you guessed right, maybe not, the point is you are just guessing
    and can't admit it. Just say "Bob is just guessing" you will feel
    better, and remember to post more honestly in the future Bob.

    BTW Maybe one reason Sprint raised the price is that they are almost
    sold out, in under a week no less. I ordered one this morning, the
    guy at Telesales wasn't sure if it would ship because they are almost
    out of stock. Just, speculation on my part, and I don't mind saying
    it.


    Ron


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Bob
    > >
    > > Projecting Bob, projecting; just because you got lucky doesn't make it
    > > not so.
    > >
    > > You started with:
    > >
    > > * give us a break, no way, that "never" happened
    > >
    > > After another poster confirmed, the post morphed to
    > >
    > > * It "might have" been a typo
    > >
    > > After I posted the URL, you more recent posts
    > >
    > > * state that only then did you look and that is when you noticed the
    > > comments where a poster said it was an error
    > > * did you notice a later poster saying "Sprint has now raised the
    > > price to $250 from their $199 original offering. Too bad if you did
    > > not jump on this deal earlier".
    > >
    > > Basically all one needs to do is read what "you" wrote to see you post
    > > things "adamantly as fact" when in fact you are only guessing. Just
    > > because you guessed correct doesn't score you any points. Like they
    > > say a broken clock is right twice a day

    >
    > Ron, I said in my first follow up to the original post, it could have been a
    > typo ... and it was confirmed in a message that I requoted verbatim ...
    >
    > I don't know why you keep harping on this, save for the fact you can't get
    > over the fact a mistake was make by whoever entered in the data onto SPCS's
    > website originally.
    >
    > You really are starting to look like one with an anal retentive personality.
    >
    > Bob



    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Bob
    > >
    > > Projecting Bob, projecting; just because you got lucky doesn't make it
    > > not so.
    > >
    > > You started with:
    > >
    > > * give us a break, no way, that "never" happened
    > >
    > > After another poster confirmed, the post morphed to
    > >
    > > * It "might have" been a typo
    > >
    > > After I posted the URL, you more recent posts
    > >
    > > * state that only then did you look and that is when you noticed the
    > > comments where a poster said it was an error
    > > * did you notice a later poster saying "Sprint has now raised the
    > > price to $250 from their $199 original offering. Too bad if you did
    > > not jump on this deal earlier".
    > >
    > > Basically all one needs to do is read what "you" wrote to see you post
    > > things "adamantly as fact" when in fact you are only guessing. Just
    > > because you guessed correct doesn't score you any points. Like they
    > > say a broken clock is right twice a day

    >
    > Ron, I said in my first follow up to the original post, it could have been a
    > typo ... and it was confirmed in a message that I requoted verbatim ...
    >
    > I don't know why you keep harping on this, save for the fact you can't get
    > over the fact a mistake was make by whoever entered in the data onto SPCS's
    > website originally.
    >
    > You really are starting to look like one with an anal retentive personality.
    >
    > Bob




  13. #58
    Ron
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    Bob

    Why don't you just admit that you state things (aggressively) as facts
    when you are just guessing?

    Any one following your posts can read that only after claiming "give
    us a break, it never happened", you morphed to "maybe never happened".
    Then later your post makes it obvious that you had no clue until you
    saw a comment thread on a URL I directed you to. Odd how you ignore
    that the editors at SprintUser say it was a price increase buy cling
    to a single a guy in the comment thread, that said it was a "typo",
    even if you guess right, another guy in the same thread, said it was
    too bad that you didn't get the phones when they where $200, before
    the price went up.

    Maybe you guessed right, maybe not, the point is you are just guessing
    and can't admit it. Just say "Bob is just guessing" you will feel
    better, and remember to post more honestly in the future Bob.

    BTW Maybe one reason Sprint raised the price is that they are almost
    sold out, in under a week no less. I ordered one this morning, the
    guy at Telesales wasn't sure if it would ship because they are almost
    out of stock. Just, speculation on my part, and I don't mind saying
    it.


    Ron


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Bob
    > >
    > > Projecting Bob, projecting; just because you got lucky doesn't make it
    > > not so.
    > >
    > > You started with:
    > >
    > > * give us a break, no way, that "never" happened
    > >
    > > After another poster confirmed, the post morphed to
    > >
    > > * It "might have" been a typo
    > >
    > > After I posted the URL, you more recent posts
    > >
    > > * state that only then did you look and that is when you noticed the
    > > comments where a poster said it was an error
    > > * did you notice a later poster saying "Sprint has now raised the
    > > price to $250 from their $199 original offering. Too bad if you did
    > > not jump on this deal earlier".
    > >
    > > Basically all one needs to do is read what "you" wrote to see you post
    > > things "adamantly as fact" when in fact you are only guessing. Just
    > > because you guessed correct doesn't score you any points. Like they
    > > say a broken clock is right twice a day

    >
    > Ron, I said in my first follow up to the original post, it could have been a
    > typo ... and it was confirmed in a message that I requoted verbatim ...
    >
    > I don't know why you keep harping on this, save for the fact you can't get
    > over the fact a mistake was make by whoever entered in the data onto SPCS's
    > website originally.
    >
    > You really are starting to look like one with an anal retentive personality.
    >
    > Bob




  14. #59
    Ron
    Guest

    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    Bob

    Why don't you just admit that you state things (aggressively) as facts
    when you are just guessing?

    Any one following your posts can read that only after claiming "give
    us a break, it never happened", you morphed to "maybe never happened".
    Then later your post makes it obvious that you had no clue until you
    saw a comment thread on a URL I directed you to. Odd how you ignore
    that the editors at SprintUser say it was a price increase buy cling
    to a single a guy in the comment thread, that said it was a "typo",
    even if you guess right, another guy in the same thread, said it was
    too bad that you didn't get the phones when they where $200, before
    the price went up.

    Maybe you guessed right, maybe not, the point is you are just guessing
    and can't admit it. Just say "Bob is just guessing" you will feel
    better, and remember to post more honestly in the future Bob.

    BTW Maybe one reason Sprint raised the price is that they are almost
    sold out, in under a week no less. I ordered one this morning, the
    guy at Telesales wasn't sure if it would ship because they are almost
    out of stock. Just, speculation on my part, and I don't mind saying
    it.


    Ron


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Bob
    > >
    > > Projecting Bob, projecting; just because you got lucky doesn't make it
    > > not so.
    > >
    > > You started with:
    > >
    > > * give us a break, no way, that "never" happened
    > >
    > > After another poster confirmed, the post morphed to
    > >
    > > * It "might have" been a typo
    > >
    > > After I posted the URL, you more recent posts
    > >
    > > * state that only then did you look and that is when you noticed the
    > > comments where a poster said it was an error
    > > * did you notice a later poster saying "Sprint has now raised the
    > > price to $250 from their $199 original offering. Too bad if you did
    > > not jump on this deal earlier".
    > >
    > > Basically all one needs to do is read what "you" wrote to see you post
    > > things "adamantly as fact" when in fact you are only guessing. Just
    > > because you guessed correct doesn't score you any points. Like they
    > > say a broken clock is right twice a day

    >
    > Ron, I said in my first follow up to the original post, it could have been a
    > typo ... and it was confirmed in a message that I requoted verbatim ...
    >
    > I don't know why you keep harping on this, save for the fact you can't get
    > over the fact a mistake was make by whoever entered in the data onto SPCS's
    > website originally.
    >
    > You really are starting to look like one with an anal retentive personality.
    >
    > Bob



    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Bob
    > >
    > > Projecting Bob, projecting; just because you got lucky doesn't make it
    > > not so.
    > >
    > > You started with:
    > >
    > > * give us a break, no way, that "never" happened
    > >
    > > After another poster confirmed, the post morphed to
    > >
    > > * It "might have" been a typo
    > >
    > > After I posted the URL, you more recent posts
    > >
    > > * state that only then did you look and that is when you noticed the
    > > comments where a poster said it was an error
    > > * did you notice a later poster saying "Sprint has now raised the
    > > price to $250 from their $199 original offering. Too bad if you did
    > > not jump on this deal earlier".
    > >
    > > Basically all one needs to do is read what "you" wrote to see you post
    > > things "adamantly as fact" when in fact you are only guessing. Just
    > > because you guessed correct doesn't score you any points. Like they
    > > say a broken clock is right twice a day

    >
    > Ron, I said in my first follow up to the original post, it could have been a
    > typo ... and it was confirmed in a message that I requoted verbatim ...
    >
    > I don't know why you keep harping on this, save for the fact you can't get
    > over the fact a mistake was make by whoever entered in the data onto SPCS's
    > website originally.
    >
    > You really are starting to look like one with an anal retentive personality.
    >
    > Bob




  15. #60
    Ron
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    Re: Motorola V60V Now available from Telesales

    Larry

    Can I ask is Vision and 1X the same thing? I was wondering about
    hooking it up to a laptop (airports, etc...). Given my last phone was
    a p8767 I Vision has not been on my radar screen

    I keep toying with going over to Verizon but Sprnt is so much cheaper
    for me, aside from list price being less the association discounts on
    Sprint are bigger on Sprint (10%).

    Ron


    [email protected] (Larry Thomas) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] (Ron) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > Larry
    > >
    > > As you know my interest in the new phone is because in side-by-sides
    > > with Sanyo and other supposedly better Sprint phone my p8767 gets a
    > > signal when these other Sprint phones are out of service.
    > >
    > > In the review found at sprintuser.com the poster did a critical review
    > > of the new phone. He noted the lack of bells and whistles, the UI,
    > > etc? but had great things to say about its call quality and although
    > > he notes he has had limited time to test it did get a signal in what
    > > he previously considered a Sprint No Service.
    > >
    > > I am going to email him in a week or so and see how is call quality
    > > testing is going. His early results match mine. The other phones are
    > > great if you want the bells and whistles. However, if you need to
    > > pull in a signal in a weak signal area better ditch the Sanyo and get
    > > a Motorola phone.
    > >
    > >
    > > Ron

    >
    >
    > Sprint recently put up a new tower near my house so signal is not a
    > problem for me. Any brand will work good here. My beef with many of
    > the newer Sprint phones (especially Sanyos) is that the earpiece sound
    > quality is not as good as they used to be. The Samsung A680 and
    > Toshiba 4050 both have pretty good sound quality but the 4050 is
    > lacking in volume so I can rule that one out. If the Motorola was
    > Vision capable I probably would pick one up right away. I have the
    > old $10/mo Vision plan which is too good to cancel. I can live without
    > a camera, RL capabilities, speakerphones and other bells and whistles
    > but I must have my Vision. Looks like it will be the A680 for me. I'm
    > up for the 18 month rebate program on July 8th so I might wait until
    > then to get it. I've always liked the looks & size of the V60 and it
    > appears to be built very well. If only it was Vision capable.




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