SPCS sponsors show making fun of child slavery and "chinks"

For clip from NYC radio show
MENTIONING SPRINT AS SPONSOR
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longer_hot97_tsunami.mp3

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Spider wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2005 07:53:34 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> If true, I don't think that's a fair claim unless you're suggesting
> that Sprint somehow pre-screens the program for content?

>From what I read this thing was replayed everyday for a week.

Perhaps SPCS can respond here.

Here are some choice lyrics:

"..All at once you could hear the screaming chinks
and no one was safe from the wave
there were Africans drowning, little Chinamen swept away
you could hear god laughing, "swim you *****es swim"

So now you're screwed, it's the Tsunami
you better run or kiss your ass away, go find your mommy
I just saw her float by, a tree went through her head
and now the children will be sold to child slavery..."

<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> Perhaps SPCS can respond here.
>
> Here are some choice lyrics:

How is Sprint responsible for the lyrics of a song?
That would involve some onerous censorship.
I've heard a lot worse from many rappers.

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According to a Drudge report linked story:

"New York FM radio station WQHT, or HOT 97, repeatedly ran the segment
last week on the show, hosted by deejay Tarsha Nicole Jones who uses
the on-air name Miss Jones.

Jones and her team were suspended indefinitely, according to publicist
Lizzie Grubman, who declined to say whether Jones would feature in
another show at a later date."

"REPEATEDLY", SPCS had to know

Google Lizzie Grubman and get:
"As publicist for Britney Spears, Jay-Z, the Backstreet Boys and P.
Diddy, she was used to seeing her name in bold. But she got more press
than she could stand when she backed her father's Mercedes SUV into a
crowd outside a Hamptons nightclub in the summer of 2001, injuring 16.
Witnesses claimed she used choice words as she bolted.

She pleaded guilty to assault charges and leaving the scene of an
accident, and in the fall of 2002 served 37 days of a 60-day sentence,
getting off early for good behavior."

On 26 Jan 2005 16:13:05 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>According to a Drudge report linked story:

Ahh, there you go. The gold standard for truth and accuracy!

Anyway, for better or worse, when major corporations advertise
on the radio the principals haven't the vaguest notion what's going on
on those stations. For one thing, the corporation hires an advertising
company as intermediary to take care of that business. Even within the
advertising company, a few individuals, "media buyers", purchase huge
blocks of time that are distributed across "markets", which are an
ever-changing constellation of venues, some related to one another,
some stand-alone. The connection between SPCS principals and where
their company's ads turn up is so tenuous that unless someone from
Sprint happened to have been a listener to that station, they'd never
have a clue.

My guess is that people from Sprint heard about this on the
news at the same time most other people in the US did -- after it had
happened, been protested, and the perpetrators taken to task. Only
then might it have been likely that someone in any kind of position of
authority at Sprint might have said to him- or herself "Crap, I sure
hope we don't advertise on that station... - ... - ... DOH!"

DGI

[email protected] wrote:

> "New York FM radio station WQHT, or HOT 97, repeatedly ran the segment
> last week on the show, hosted by deejay Tarsha Nicole Jones who uses
> the on-air name Miss Jones.
>
> Jones and her team were suspended indefinitely, according to publicist
> Lizzie Grubman, who declined to say whether Jones would feature in
> another show at a later date."
>
> "REPEATEDLY", SPCS had to know

You're assuming Sprint execs even listen to Hot 97, which would probably not be
the case, considering that Hot 97 is in New York and Sprint's corporate HQ is
in Overland Park, Kansas, just outside Kansas City.

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Just to follow up, this is from New York Newsday:

"At least three advertisers have abandoned the station. McDonald's
Corp. suspended its advertising Monday. The tax services company
Jackson Hewitt Inc. followed on Tuesday. Wednesday, Sprint announced
that it would withdraw its advertising.

What began as a cruel joke about a natural disaster has turned into a
catastrophe for Hot 97 (WQHT/97.1 FM). The song, which first aired
Jan. 18, included slurs against Asians and jokes about floating bodies
and orphaned children. It was set to the tune of the 1985
famine-relief song "We Are The World."

Despite Miss Jones' subsequent on-air apology, New York City
councilmen and Asian advocacy groups called for the hosts'
resignations. Councilman John Liu of Flushing called the song
"reprehensible," and councilman James Gennaro of Fresh Meadows
threatened to "go after" the station's advertisers.

"A suspension is the same thing as saying, 'We don't think these
people ought to be fired,'" Gennaro said. "That's as big an insult as
what the performers did when they sang the song."


Link: http://tinyurl.com/5szxz

[email protected] wrote:
> For clip from NYC radio show
> MENTIONING SPRINT AS SPONSOR
> Google for
> longer_hot97_tsunami.mp3


According to HOT97's website (at www.hot97.com):

"We would like to clarify that no company advertising on our station had
any connection to the Tsunami Song and no company advertising on our
station endorsed or sponsored the offensive material aired on the "Miss
Jones in the Morning" show. We apologize for any misunderstanding that
may have caused listeners to believe that anyone, other than the morning
show staff, was responsible for the material that should not have been
aired."

SO no, Sprint had nothing to do with it, and it would be stupid of you
to have even beleived taht any advertiser knew that such an on-air prank
was going to be played.


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Isaiah Beard wrote:
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> According to HOT97's website (at www.hot97.com):
>

Mr Beard:
I have a lot of respect for you.
You have been writing articles on Usenet for many years and
have supplied a lot of knowledge.

However, I would take with a grain of salt any PR statement on
HOT97's website.

Their PR person is Lizzie Grubman who served time in prison for running
down a lot of people with her SV on Long island. Google Lizzie Grubman.
She is a good example of lack of compassion. Pehaps Hot-97 was unable
to hire Josef Goebbels as their spokesperson.

Yesterday I listened again to the "sponsored by Sprint PCS" .MP3 clip I
have. At 3:37, one Hot-97 on-air talent is heard saying that he may go
out and "shoot Asians". No wonder the Asian crew member is not around
to say what happened.

Considering that Hot-97 did not FIRE the perps, I think that there is
more to this that we are hearing.

Maybe if the perps were fired, they would point the finger at station
management.

HOT97's website may not be revealing everything.

[email protected] wrote:
> Isaiah Beard wrote:
>
>>According to HOT97's website (at www.hot97.com):

> Mr Beard:
> I have a lot of respect for you.

Evidently Sir or Ma'am, you do not, since you appear to be trying to
insult my intelligence as well as the intelligence of the other people here.

> However, I would take with a grain of salt any PR statement on
> HOT97's website.

And why is that? HOT97 was the source of the problem, and their
statement was issued to place the responsibility squarely on their
staff, not on the advertisers.


> Their PR person is Lizzie Grubman who served time in prison for running
> down a lot of people with her SV on Long island.

You are wrong, so before you continue to press your misguided agenda, I
would recommend you try and get your facts straight. Kate Healey is the
Media Relations spokesperson for WQHT FM (dba HOT 97 FM) and of Emmis
Communications, its parent company. Lizzie Grubman is the publicist for
the (possibly former) DJ of the morning show and ONLY her, NOT of Emmis
Broadcasting or of WQHT FM.

> Google Lizzie Grubman.
> She is a good example of lack of compassion. Pehaps Hot-97 was unable
> to hire Josef Goebbels as their spokesperson.

Let us assume that you were actually correct about Lizze Grubman being
HOT97's PR person (and you are certainly not). How does Lizzie
Grubman's past have anything to do with this statement?

> Yesterday I listened again to the "sponsored by Sprint PCS" .MP3 clip I
> have. At 3:37, one Hot-97 on-air talent is heard saying that he may go
> out and "shoot Asians". No wonder the Asian crew member is not around
> to say what happened.

You have not offered one shred of proof that this mp3 of yours is
sponsored by Sprint PCS, except by your own statements, which clearly
have no credibility.

> Considering that Hot-97 did not FIRE the perps, I think that there is
> more to this that we are hearing.

1. There are no "perps" here, seeing as no crime was committed.
Unfortunately, bad taste is not a crime. Are you calling them "perps"
because the morning show staff was primarily African-American? Maybe it
is your own personal prejudices which need to be checked at the door here.

2. The morning show staff was suspended indefinitely, which tends to be
the step right before firing them. So a firing is still very, very likely.

3. What does this even have to do with Sprint PCS? Just as Sprint had
nothing to do with this stupid prank, they likewise have no
decision-making authority over whether these people are fired or not.

It's clear to me and I hope to everyone else you have some odd agenda
here and are trying to cook up some half-baked conspiracy theory to
trash a company. Your fact finding abilities are questionable at best,
and thus your conclusions are equally delusional.



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If Lizzie Gruman is not PR for Hot-97, how come at
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/goss...p-235860c.html
NT Daily News says:

"So while critics charge that Hot-97 first responded to their
complaints way too slowly, the station is taking them seriously now.
Its public relations is being handled by Lizzie Grubman, who has some
experience in damage control. "

On 28 Jan 2005 11:56:57 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>If Lizzie Gruman is not PR for Hot-97, how come at
>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/goss...p-235860c.html
>NT Daily News says:
>
>"So while critics charge that Hot-97 first responded to their
>complaints way too slowly, the station is taking them seriously now.
>Its public relations is being handled by Lizzie Grubman, who has some
>experience in damage control. "

You're looking at a gossip page, not legitimate journalisim.
It's amazing what people think is journalism these days. Previously
you cited Matt Drudge. It's no wonder that the Bush administration
pays people like Armstrong Williams and Maggie Gallagher to do its
bidding. Most consumers of "newsertainment" today have no clue who is
actually doing the copious research necessary to provide actual news,
and who's just pulling it out of their ass.

Please, sir or madam, take your admirable energy and devote it
to ameliorating real problems in the world.

DGI

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> If Lizzie Gruman is not PR for Hot-97, how come at
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/goss...p-235860c.html
> NT Daily News says:
>
> "So while critics charge that Hot-97 first responded to their
> complaints way too slowly, the station is taking them seriously now.
> Its public relations is being handled by Lizzie Grubman, who has some
> experience in damage control. "

I don't care who is handling the PR. The two important items in that PR is
that the crew was suspended indefinitely and that it includes the station's
president's comments.

Bob

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> NT Daily News says:
>

The NY York Daily News?

It's not like ANY majors news agency does any real digging anymore, but
that's even shallower than the so-called "legitimate" ones.

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[email protected] wrote:
> If Lizzie Gruman is not PR for Hot-97, how come at
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/goss...p-235860c.html
> NT Daily News says:
>
> "So while critics charge that Hot-97 first responded to their
> complaints way too slowly, the station is taking them seriously now.
> Its public relations is being handled by Lizzie Grubman, who has some
> experience in damage control. "

You're trusting the New York Daily News as your source of information.
That alone speaks volumes about credibility (or rather, lack of).



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