A T&T Cell Phone

My A T&T Samsung Model SGH x426 crapped out. I like my plan I signed up
with A T&T and don't want to sigh up for a new deal with cingular. I
need a A T&T phone.
Will a cingular phone work with my A T&T sim card? Advice or help
steering me in the right direction will be appreciated.
Thanks

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Stepfotd wrote:
> My A T&T Samsung Model SGH x426 crapped out. I like my plan I signed up
> with A T&T and don't want to sigh up for a new deal with cingular. I
> need a A T&T phone.
> Will a cingular phone work with my A T&T sim card? Advice or help
> steering me in the right direction will be appreciated.

There's no reason a Cingular phone shouldn't work with your AT&T sim card,
or you may be able to get an old AT&T phone off eBay.


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Joseph wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:06:06 -0700, Steve Sobol <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Stepfotd wrote:
>>
>>>My A T&T Samsung Model SGH x426 crapped out. I like my plan I signed up
>>>with A T&T and don't want to sigh up for a new deal with cingular. I
>>>need a A T&T phone.
>>>Will a cingular phone work with my A T&T sim card? Advice or help
>>>steering me in the right direction will be appreciated.
>>
>>There's no reason a Cingular phone shouldn't work with your AT&T sim card,
>>or you may be able to get an old AT&T phone off eBay.
>
>
> There's a good reason why the cingular phone won't work with AT&T
> Wireless SIM card. cingular locks their handsets to only use cingular
> SIMs. Unless the handset is unlocked the SIM will be rejected by the
> cingular phone.
> - -
>
Look around, Its legal to unlock sim cards overseas and there are many
websites offering to do so. Some offer over the air unlocking but I
guess the phone has to be working for that.
Don't have many details as I don't have a phone with a sim card.
Web search engines are your friend.

Seumas

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Joseph wrote:

> There's a good reason why the cingular phone won't work with AT&T
> Wireless SIM card. cingular locks their handsets to only use cingular
> SIMs. Unless the handset is unlocked the SIM will be rejected by the
> cingular phone.

And Cingular wouldn't unlock it, considering that the two companies are now
merged?

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Steve Sobol wrote:

> And Cingular wouldn't unlock it, considering that the two companies are
> now merged?

The older ATT phones won't handle the newer 64k sims that Cingular is now
using. In order for me to upgrade (to a V551) & migrate (as I have), I'm
going to need to replace an older ATT V180 to be able to use the Cingular
sim in a camera-less phone, when I need a phone in places where a camera
isn't allowed.

Bill K

Joseph wrote:

> Welcome to cingular where their motto is we'll screw you anyway we
> can. We've assimilated you stinkin' AT&T Wireless folks. Don't like
> it? TS! That's the attitude and that's what you have to deal with if
> you were absorbed from ATTWS into ¢ingular.

I guess that doesn't surprise me, since I was an SBC landline victim for
years. Oughtta be fun for the AT&T landlinr customers about to be BORG'd by
SBC, too.


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Thank You Steve,Joseph,Seumas,Bill for you help. I took your advice and
found a phone thats unlocked and will work with my A T&T sim card on
ebay. And Joseph you hit it right on the head about cingular. You are
screwed (assimilated) if you are an old A T&T customer.

Stepfotd wrote:

> Thank You Steve,Joseph,Seumas,Bill for you help. I took your advice and
> found a phone thats unlocked and will work with my A T&T sim card on
> ebay. And Joseph you hit it right on the head about cingular. You are
> screwed (assimilated) if you are an old A T&T customer.

Unlike Joseph, I don't see it as intentionally screwed. It's more like
comparing an older computer that can only handle 128 meg of RAM & 32 bit
OS/apps to a 64 bit box with 2 gig of RAM. Today there isn't a lot of
difference in what the two can do, except possibly how fast. But, as the
software matures & featues are added to the 64 bit versions, the older
machine & software are still functional, but not as much & are less useful.
No matter whether you're a cell carrier, phone manufacturer, computer
maker, software producer, consumer electronics manufacturer, car maker or
whatever, you want to continue to add features that get people to continue
to use & buy upgrades of your product. Which may include brief periods
where some incompatibilities come in. In the future, the added
capacity/capabilities will included value added features that consumers
will want. That's just good business, not necessarily scewing the
customer.

Bill K

I signed up in good faith for a Two year plan that was the only option
for the particular plan i choosed. And since they have me locked up for
two years, they should have a phone that they can replace for me within
the two years without me becoming a brand new customer all over again.
Cingular knows that they have people from A T&T still under contract
and to not have a phone thats compatible with the one thats under
contract, the one that you faithfully agreed to keep for two years...
They should have phones for A T&T customers still under contract. When
Cingular bought A T&T they said screw the A T&T customers. So yes
again, Joseph you are totally correct in your post.

Joseph wrote:

> Are you trying to tell us that the same phone that cingular sells only
> locked to cingular is somehow "superior" to the same phone that was
> sold by AT&T Wireless or could be gotten unlocked from third-party
> vendors was in some way "inferior?" Somehow that just does not
> "compute" very well.

If it's really the same phone internally, there should be no difference.
But, if the phones differ electronically, one capable of handling a 64 bit
sim & one not, then yes there is going to be a difference. Whether
"superior" is the right term or not, I'm not sure. ;-) Depends on what the
carrier does with the extra space capabilities on the sim. But the
potential is there.

Depending on what ATT phone one has & how old, the potential may not be
there. And that has nothing to do with whether the phone is locked or not.
Other than the fact that a lot of users don't have the knowledge or desire
to program a phone to a particular carrier's feature set.

Bill K

Stepfotd wrote:

> I signed up in good faith for a Two year plan that was the only option
> for the particular plan i choosed. And since they have me locked up for
> two years, they should have a phone that they can replace for me within
> the two years without me becoming a brand new customer all over again.
> Cingular knows that they have people from A T&T still under contract
> and to not have a phone thats compatible with the one thats under
> contract, the one that you faithfully agreed to keep for two years...
> They should have phones for A T&T customers still under contract. When
> Cingular bought A T&T they said screw the A T&T customers. So yes
> again, Joseph you are totally correct in your post.

Well, Cingular must have gotten enough reaction from ATT customers to
warrant adding more ATT phones. My call to CS, two nights ago, got a
response that they had a new batch of ATT phones in or coming in.

Bill K

That's news to me, I will give them a call. I stopped by two cingular
stores on Thurs August 4th and they said nothing about any A T&T
phones. If you know any specifics or which office please let me know.
Thanks

Stepfotd wrote:

> That's news to me, I will give them a call. I stopped by two cingular
> stores on Thurs August 4th and they said nothing about any A T&T
> phones. If you know any specifics or which office please let me know.
> Thanks

It was news to me, too. It wasn't on the website & the stores I went to
knew nothing about it, either. But I had been trying to find a way to
upgrade to a V551. CS & the stores either told me I couldn't do it (even
migrating with a new 2 year contract, which I didn't mind) or that the
phone price was WAY out of line with what I wanted to spend. Then I got a
piece of promo mail for joining Cingular as a new customer with a free
phone (one I didn't want). That was Wednesday night. So, I tried their
phone number & explained what I wanted. The girl then mentioned that she
thought they had gotten a bunch of new phones for ATT & I might possibly be
able to get the phone I wanted & stay with ATT. She apologized for what
she said could be an 8 minute wait time switching to the appropriate CS
section, but to hold on & we'd try to get the phone I wanted. Four minutes
later, I was explaining why I was explaining that I wanted to upgrade my
phone, didn't mind migrating to a new contract. We never got to discuss
the ATT phones. But I got a Cingular plan at the same price I had on my
ATT plan, with the rollover & far more minutes. They waived the "upgrade"
fee & the early termination fee, plus adding a huge amount of extra
minutes, gave me the V551 for less than I would have paid to start as a new
2 year customer, all for migrating now. I never got to ask about the ATT
phones, but I'd suspect that she may have been right. I just figured
tthat, with the deal I got & the fact that I'd have to eventually migrate,
anyway, if I wanted to upgrade again, I might as well do it now.

It's at least worth exploring further, if you're looking for a new ATT phone
without migrating.

Bill K