Minister's licence condition unnecessary

mattic <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

>> Its those that will determine when the govt allows telstra to turn
>> the cdma system off.

> It's not a case of "allow".

Corse it is.

> As it stands Telstra is turning off CDMA on 28th Jan.

No it aint, you watch.

> It does not need the Government's permission.

Yes it does when the govt adds that license condition.

> The Government may PREVENT this by passing a law,

That aint the only way to do that.

> but that's different to Telstra needing to be "allowed".

Nope.

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"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> mattic <[email protected]> wrote
>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>
>>> Its those that will determine when the govt allows telstra to turn
>>> the cdma system off.
>
>> It's not a case of "allow".
>
> Corse it is.

No, it is not. As it stands, Telstra does not need the Government's
permission to turn off CDMA.

>
>> As it stands Telstra is turning off CDMA on 28th Jan.
>
> No it aint, you watch.

Again, you are confusing what you think will happen, with the current facts.

>
>> It does not need the Government's permission.
>
> Yes it does when the govt adds that license condition.

If that occurs, sure, but it is not the current situation.

>
>> The Government may PREVENT this by passing a law,
>
> That aint the only way to do that.

What are some of the others?

>
>> but that's different to Telstra needing to be "allowed".
>
> Nope.

Having to pass a law to prevent something is different to not having to do
anything but give permission.

mattic <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> mattic <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

>>>> Its those that will determine when the govt allows telstra to turn the cdma system off.

>>> It's not a case of "allow".

>> Corse it is.

> No, it is not.

Corse it is.

> As it stands, Telstra does not need the Government's permission to turn off CDMA.

Wrong now that the govt has imposed the license condition.

>>> As it stands Telstra is turning off CDMA on 28th Jan.

>> No it aint, you watch.

> Again, you are confusing what you think will happen, with the current facts.

Nope, I know it wont, because there wouldnt be any point in the minister going
to the trouble of changing the license conditions if she didnt plan to use that.

With a bit of luck the govt will refuse to ever allow the cdma system to be turned off.

>>> It does not need the Government's permission.

>> Yes it does when the govt adds that license condition.

> If that occurs, sure, but it is not the current situation.

Yes it is.

>>> The Government may PREVENT this by passing a law,

>> That aint the only way to do that.

> What are some of the others?

Adding a license condition. That doesnt have to be done by passing a law.

>>> but that's different to Telstra needing to be "allowed".

>> Nope.

> Having to pass a law to prevent something is different to not having to do anything but give permission.

There never was any 'give permission' in the first place.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> mattic <[email protected]> wrote
>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>> mattic <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>
>>>>> Its those that will determine when the govt allows telstra to turn the
>>>>> cdma system off.
>
>>>> It's not a case of "allow".
>
>>> Corse it is.
>
>> No, it is not.
>
> Corse it is.

Anything to offer here apart from the automatic gain-saying of whatever
point is made?

>
>> As it stands, Telstra does not need the Government's permission to turn
>> off CDMA.
>
> Wrong now that the govt has imposed the license condition.

Have they? I must have missed that. Do you have a link or something to
substantiate your claim?

>
>>>> As it stands Telstra is turning off CDMA on 28th Jan.
>
>>> No it aint, you watch.
>
>> Again, you are confusing what you think will happen, with the current
>> facts.
>
> Nope, I know it wont, because there wouldnt be any point in the minister
> going
> to the trouble of changing the license conditions if she didnt plan to use
> that.

Ministers go to the trouble of things all the time and don't use them.

>
> With a bit of luck the govt will refuse to ever allow the cdma system to
> be turned off.

Why do you wish for that?

>
>>>> It does not need the Government's permission.
>
>>> Yes it does when the govt adds that license condition.
>
>> If that occurs, sure, but it is not the current situation.
>
> Yes it is.

As I said, cite.

>
>>>> The Government may PREVENT this by passing a law,
>
>>> That aint the only way to do that.
>
>> What are some of the others?
>
> Adding a license condition. That doesnt have to be done by passing a law.
>
>>>> but that's different to Telstra needing to be "allowed".
>
>>> Nope.
>
>> Having to pass a law to prevent something is different to not having to
>> do anything but give permission.
>
> There never was any 'give permission' in the first place.

No, because it wasn't needed.

mattic <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> mattic <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> mattic <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

>>>>>> Its those that will determine when the govt allows telstra to turn the cdma system off.

>>>>> It's not a case of "allow".

>>>> Corse it is.

>>> No, it is not.

>> Corse it is.

> Anything to offer here apart from the automatic gain-saying of whatever point is made?

Thats precisely what you did yourself, you pathetic excuse for a lying bull**** artist.

>>> As it stands, Telstra does not need the Government's permission to turn off CDMA.

>> Wrong now that the govt has imposed the license condition.

> Have they?

Yep.

> I must have missed that.

No surprises there.

> Do you have a link or something to substantiate your claim?

Have a look at Coonan's press releases, ****wit.

>>>>> As it stands Telstra is turning off CDMA on 28th Jan.

>>>> No it aint, you watch.

>>> Again, you are confusing what you think will happen, with the current facts.

>> Nope, I know it wont, because there wouldnt be any point in the minister going
>> to the trouble of changing the license conditions if she didnt plan to use that.

> Ministers go to the trouble of things all the time and don't use them.

Bet you cant list Coonan doing anything like that with a license condition.

>> With a bit of luck the govt will refuse to ever allow the cdma system to be turned off.

> Why do you wish for that?

Because there is no good reason for those who are happy with cdma to change
their handset just because telstra has decided to force them to do that.

Telstra should be told to go and **** itself instead.

>>>>> It does not need the Government's permission.

>>>> Yes it does when the govt adds that license condition.

>>> If that occurs, sure, but it is not the current situation.

>> Yes it is.

> As I said, cite.

As I said, check Coonan's press releases.

>>>>> The Government may PREVENT this by passing a law,

>>>> That aint the only way to do that.

>>> What are some of the others?

>> Adding a license condition. That doesnt have to be done by passing a law.

>>>>> but that's different to Telstra needing to be "allowed".

>>>> Nope.

>>> Having to pass a law to prevent something is different to not having to do anything but give permission.

>> There never was any 'give permission' in the first place.

> No, because it wasn't needed.

Pity about your original claim/lie.

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>> Re: music downloads - corporate mobile services should not be indulging
>> in such
>
> Erm....staff are encouraged to use all the features of NextG.

Not ones which incur third party charges
>

"mattic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Its those that will determine when the govt allows telstra to turn the
>> cdma system off.
>
> It's not a case of "allow". As it stands Telstra is turning off CDMA on
> 28th Jan. It does not need the Government's permission. The Government may
> PREVENT this by passing a law, but that's different to Telstra needing to
> be "allowed".

Or by making a ministerial determination