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- 09-03-2008, 10:09 PM #14phunGuest
Headphones involved in freak accident, increments their death toll
Mark Brezinski
Published on May 15, 2008
We came across a story this morning from Canada that seems to indicate
a disconcerting trend. Apparently a youth was walking to his mail box
with his headphones on when a helicopter crashed into him. This death
is being used to spur on conversations about safe headphone usage.
Now, we agree that limiting your ability to hear isn't the best idea.
It's also a bad idea when you need to listen to important
instructions, such as during a race. It's an especially bad idea to in
situations where you need to be mindful of loud incoming dangers, such
as around trains, automobiles, or other things that move very, very
quickly. That being said, we're pretty sure people have been being
careless, or involved in accidents for a bit longer than the iPod
craze.
Further, how is this particular tragedy being toted as the reason
headphone safety needs to be enforced? As far as we understand, the
person involved just stepped out to get his mail when he had the
misfortune of winning the worst possible lottery. We don't think it's
grounds for launching a campaign to limit the use of headphones. If
someone was reading, and therefore unable to see a rabid grizzly bear
sneaking up behind them, would we consider banning books?
Regardless of our views on the matter, it certainly seems as though
headphone hysteria seems to be gaining ground, at least in terms of
media buzz-worthiness. Something tells us this won't be the last time
we get to use our "Headphones Attack!!" graphic.
http://www.headphoneinfo.com/images/...cation-320.jpg
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- 09-03-2008, 10:25 PM #24phunGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 3) It may make you impotent
3) iAte my iPhone:
Have you ever read the fine print on the back of your IPod or iPhone
box? If not, it reads:
SURGEON GENERALS WARNING: Ingesting or inhaling your iPhone or iPod
earbuds may be hazardous to your health.
Why is this a potential hazard? Because the iPhone and iPod contain
dibutyl phthalate (DBP) which has been proven to causes sexual
malfunction in mammals. Want to be impotent? Eat your iPhone.
- 09-04-2008, 01:25 AM #34phunGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated WithFast Food Leading To Obesity
BREAKING: T.G.I. Friday's to follow Best Buy!
T.G.I. Friday's Restaurants LLC becomes second independent iPhone
retailer
By PETER STEVENSON 18 hours ago
NEW YORK (AP) T.G.I. Friday's Restaurants LLC will start selling the
iPhone on Sept. 9, becoming the second U.S. chain to do so outside of
Apple Inc.'s and AT&T Inc.'s own stores, and 2 days after electronics
retailer Best Buy Co., in a deal announced earlier today.
Wednesday's announcement by T.G.I. Friday's expands the availability
of Apple's vaunted phone to 970 full-size restaurants and 16 smaller
T.G.I. 2Go restaurants. It's also a coup for the Minneapolis-based
chain, which has been upgrading its eateries.
"We had a lot of work to do, obviously, to get in a position where
Apple and AT&T would feel good about T.G.I. Friday's carrying it, and
that's what we've done in the last 18 months," said Douglas Score,
president of T.G.I. Friday's Restaurants.
T.G.I. Friday's also plans to resell Apple's Mac computers and iPod
media players. Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris said the long-standing
relationship between Apple's "Geniuses" and the company was the reason
T.G.I. Friday's would now be able to sell the iPhone. "They pretty
much eat here every day" said Rod McCormick, a Friday's regional
manager, referring to Apple's technical support staff, know as the
Genius Bar. "Friday's and Apple are staples of every mall." he added.
Last week, T.G.I. Friday's announced it had completed a two-year
conversion of its restaurants to include upgraded cell-phone
departments under the T.G.I. Friday's 2Go brand. It has upgraded its
computer systems to handle cell-phone activation and spent 250,000
hours training its waiters.
Score said T.G.I. Friday's, which resells food under other brands, now
has a 3.6 percent share of the chain restaurant market, up from 2
percent last year. It is a joint venture with Arthur Treacher's Fish &
Chips, which sells the iPhone in Britain and is Europe's largest fried
fish retailer.
In Europe, independent chains like Treacher's have a much stronger
presence, while the U.S. market is dominated by Olive Garden. AT&T,
the exclusive U.S. carrier for the iPhone, sells it in more than 2,000
stores. Apple has 189 U.S. outlets.
Another major restaurant chain, Ruby Tuesday's, sells AT&T phones, but
not the iPhone. AT&T spokesman Michael Coe said he could not speculate
on whether the iPhone would be sold at other third-party restaurants.
A third restaurant, Applebee's, was turned down by Apple when
approached regarding the iPhone. Customer confusion over the name of
the restaurant was the speculated reasoning behind Apple's decision.
"Smart" phones like the iPhone, which does e-mail, Web surfing, and
accept third-party software, are a big focus for T.G.I. Friday's,
Score said. Friday's are also the only authorized third-party reseller
of Sprint Nextel Corp.'s iPhone-like Samsung Instinct.
"The smart phones are what people are heading for," Score said.
Apple launched the second generation of the iPhone on July 11. The two
models cost $199 and $299 with two-year contracts. Fries are extra.
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment....0&d=1218689001
- 09-04-2008, 08:30 AM #4LarryGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated With Fast Food Leading To Obesity
4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:cf466350-d383-42aa-86be-
[email protected]:
> NEW YORK (AP) - T.G.I. Friday's Restaurants LLC will start selling the
> iPhone on Sept. 9, becoming the second U.S. chain to do so outside of
> Apple Inc.'s and AT&T Inc.'s own stores, and 2 days after electronics
> retailer Best Buy Co., in a deal announced earlier today.
>
>
Get 'em drunk and sell 'em an iPhone and ATT contract.....Seems like a good
marketing plan to me. Drunks won't notice the lack of so many simple
browser features and how much it really costs to own one.
- 09-04-2008, 09:31 AM #5Todd AllcockGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 2) Apple Products Attact iLightning
At 04 Sep 2008 14:27:13 +0000 Larry wrote:
> Did it say whether the Pod survived?....(c;
>
> 10M volts is kinda hard on CMOS....
On the bright side, it probably recharged the battery! ;-)
- 09-04-2008, 05:50 PM #6JerGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 1- You may be killed by wearing earphones
4phun wrote:
> Headphones involved in freak accident, increments their death toll
> Mark Brezinski
> Published on May 15, 2008
>
Carelessness always nominates a candidate for a Darwin Award.
--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
- 09-05-2008, 05:55 PM #7George KerbyGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 1- You may be killed by wearingearphones
You think that a friggin' Hughes falling from the sky would generate enough
noise to overcome any loud rap crap. Maybe the kid thought it was part of
the song? (kerchunka-kerchunka-kerchunka-SPLAT!)
On 9/3/08 11:09 PM, in article
7923fdcc-b03b-4e37-b1d4-d62e4d63356a...oglegroups.com, "4phun"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Headphones involved in freak accident, increments their death toll
> Mark Brezinski
> Published on May 15, 2008
>
> We came across a story this morning from Canada that seems to indicate
> a disconcerting trend. Apparently a youth was walking to his mail box
> with his headphones on when a helicopter crashed into him. This death
> is being used to spur on conversations about safe headphone usage.
>
> Now, we agree that limiting your ability to hear isn't the best idea.
> It's also a bad idea when you need to listen to important
> instructions, such as during a race. It's an especially bad idea to in
> situations where you need to be mindful of loud incoming dangers, such
> as around trains, automobiles, or other things that move very, very
> quickly. That being said, we're pretty sure people have been being
> careless, or involved in accidents for a bit longer than the iPod
> craze.
>
> Further, how is this particular tragedy being toted as the reason
> headphone safety needs to be enforced? As far as we understand, the
> person involved just stepped out to get his mail when he had the
> misfortune of winning the worst possible lottery. We don't think it's
> grounds for launching a campaign to limit the use of headphones. If
> someone was reading, and therefore unable to see a rabid grizzly bear
> sneaking up behind them, would we consider banning books?
>
> Regardless of our views on the matter, it certainly seems as though
> headphone hysteria seems to be gaining ground, at least in terms of
> media buzz-worthiness. Something tells us this won't be the last time
> we get to use our "Headphones Attack!!" graphic.
> http://www.headphoneinfo.com/images/...Icons/vilifica
> tion-320.jpg
>
- 09-06-2008, 07:32 AM #8SMSGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated WithFast Food Leading To Obesity
Larry wrote:
> Get 'em drunk and sell 'em an iPhone and ATT contract.....Seems like a good
> marketing plan to me. Drunks won't notice the lack of so many simple
> browser features and how much it really costs to own one.
I tried an iPhone yesterday at the Apple store in Valley Fair in San
Jose. Several things I noticed right away that I didn't like:
1. Low ringer volume. I turned the iPhone ringer to the highest volume
and I called it from my phone. You couldn't hear it ring in the noisy
store unless you put your ear right down next to it. Apparently this has
been a big complaint, and the workaround is to create a loud custom ring
tone. See "http://www.iphonehacks.com/2007/08/ringer-volume.html"
2. It's not a great shape for a phone if you want your ear near the
speaker, and your mouth near the microphone, though if you're using it
with a Bluetooth headset this doesn't matter.
3. No voice-dialing. It's almost unbelievable that Apple didn't include
voice dialing on the original iPhone, and even more unbelievable that
they didn't correct this on the 3G model.
4. The browser, while better than the one on my old PocketPC, is still
very limited in what it supports.
5. Entering a lot of text is not something you want to do with the
virtual keyboard. If you're going to be doing a lot of e-mail then you
want a phone with a slide-out keyboard.
What I really don't like about the whole iPhone concept is paying such a
high monthly fee, ostensibly for internet access, when there is so much
free WiFi around, and when 3G is so limited in its coverage. I'd be
using WiFi a lot on the iPhone because it's so much faster, yet paying a
lot for 3G.
[alt.cellular.cingular removed, Cingular no longer exists]
- 09-06-2008, 07:53 AM #9LarryGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated With Fast Food Leading To Obesity
SMS <[email protected]> wrote in newsDvwk.24295$xZ.5301
@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com:
> I tried an iPhone yesterday at the Apple store in Valley Fair in San
> Jose. Several things I noticed right away that I didn't like:
>
>
100% on every point. You missed the glaring cut and paste omission. I
can't send an Iphone a piece of text in email, have them cut it without
completely retyping it on the awful fingerboard into another app.
Another you missed is your smartphone is multitasking. The iPhone is
only capable of running ONE flashlight app at a time. How stupid. This
is 2008!! Every computer is multitasking, now, even the cheap
sellphones!
ATT was a big error. Steve Jobs was looking for a honey deal he could
control. ATT was looking for someone to boost up their lack of real
internet support. They were made for each other. Unfortunately, the
customers are the ones paying the price. ATT 3G only covers part of the
Charleston metro area, leaving out large areas of really affluent
customers living in some really expensive real estate. It doesn't make
any sense and they are doing nothing to correct it. Verizon and Alltel
on CDMA have a fully operational CDMA/EVDO system across the state (SC).
Alltel's EVDO even works in the far boondocks in tiny towns and the
countryside around them where ATT can't even make a phone call, much
less provide even EDGE. If you drive away from the interstates, here,
you might as well leave your iphone at home. Jobs screwed up
associating with ATT in the US. Apple put MONEY way ahead of SERVICE.
If you're going to use wifi, why buy ANY device all hobbled up by the
sellphone carriers designed to NOT use any bandwidth. That's just
crazy! The hobbling and continuing company control and greed are more
than enough to keep sensible users away from it. What good is a super
internet device if you're not allowed to USE it for more than childish
video games and a hobbled up home "box office" always trying to sell you
songs on iTunes.
I vowed long ago to never buy another MP3 player that REQUIRED me to use
the company's stupid "loader" software before the player would actually
play whatever I wanted in it. I also vowed I'd buy whatever device
supported the MOST CODECS so I didn't have to stand by holding a video
or music in my hand the damned thing WOULDN'T PLAY, DIRECTLY, without
some kind of stupid, time-consuming "conversion" in that stupid
"loader", either. Why would anyone buy a device that says its a movie
player that only plays what Apple wants it to play so they can SELL 'em
something?? Video comes in mpg and divx and avi. GET OVER IT!
Quicktime didn't make a dent! ANY video player needs to play these
three FIRST....not mov MP4 or some other company hobbled bull****!
Your browser comment is spot on. Why wouldn't they want Flash?
BANDWIDTH....Flash is the default movie player on webpages at this point
in time. No Flash....no movies....no bandwidth usage to save ATT costs.
Imagine trying to sell a computer on a cable modem all hobbled up so it
didn't use bandwidth on the cable modem. WHY ARE SELLPHONES DIFFERENT?!
You gotta give 'em an "A" for salesmanship......Once brainwashed by the
hype, they doggedly defend this crap like Jews do Israel.
- 09-06-2008, 11:45 AM #10SMSGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated WithFast Food Leading To Obesity
Larry wrote:
> ATT was a big error.
To the contrary. AT&T was what was available. Verizon wasn't interested.
> associating with ATT in the US. Apple put MONEY way ahead of SERVICE.
Like most companies do. Just think of how Verizon would have demanded
that iPhone be de-featured.
> If you're going to use wifi, why buy ANY device all hobbled up by the
> sellphone carriers designed to NOT use any bandwidth.
Some people actually do need ubiquitous connectivity. Of course most of
those people aren't buying iPhones.
> You gotta give 'em an "A" for salesmanship......Once brainwashed by the
> hype, they doggedly defend this crap like Jews do Israel.
Wow, just when I forgot you were from the deep south, you say something
really ignorant to remind everyone. Now hurry off to Waffle House for lunch.
- 09-06-2008, 11:56 AM #11Todd AllcockGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated With Fast Food LeadingTo Obesity
At 06 Sep 2008 10:45:03 -0700 SMS wrote:
> To the contrary. AT&T was what was available. Verizon wasn't
> interested.
Wasn't interested with Apple's set of pre-conditions/demands, particularly
the revenue sharing. (Ironically, those went away after year one, after
not working out all that well. Seems Verizon was right after all!)
> > associating with ATT in the US. Apple put MONEY way ahead of SERVICE.
>
> Like most companies do. Just think of how Verizon would have
> demanded that iPhone be de-featured.
True- like headset-only bluetooth support, single point of purchase for
downloadable media... hey, wait a minute... ;-)
- 09-06-2008, 12:17 PM #12Todd AllcockGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated With Fast Food LeadingTo Obesity
At 06 Sep 2008 06:32:09 -0700 SMS wrote:
> I tried an iPhone yesterday at the Apple store in Valley Fair in San
> Jose. Several things I noticed right away that I didn't like:
>
> 1. Low ringer volume. I turned the iPhone ringer to the highest
> volume and I called it from my phone. You couldn't hear it ring in
> the noisy store unless you put your ear right down next to it.
> Apparently this has been a big complaint, and the workaround is
> to create a loud custom ring tone. See "
> http://www.iphonehacks.com/2007/08/ringer-volume.html"
Not a huge deal, IMO, as long a relatively simple workaround is available.
> 2. It's not a great shape for a phone if you want your ear near
> the speaker, and your mouth near the microphone...
I think here, the problem is that older people (like us) treat their
cellphones like 1960's-era Ma Bell wallphones. You aren't supposed to put
"your mouth near the microphone." The condenser mics in electronic phones
are plenty sensitive unlike the carbon elements in the phones we grew up
with. Stick the speaker to your ear and let the mic do it's job from
wherever it happens to be. Take any recent small candy-bar phone as an
example. The Nokia 2610 I just picked up for my son is 3" long. Unless
your head is the same size as the one on a Madame Alexander doll, there's
no way the mic will be anywhere near your mouth when the phone is at your
ear. This is by design. (
> though if you're
> using it with a Bluetooth headset this doesn't matter.
Exactly- you might have noticed the mic in a bluetooth earpiece is nowhere
near your mouth either- like any modern cellphone mic, it's not designed to
be near.
> 3. No voice-dialing. It's almost unbelievable that Apple didn't include
> voice dialing on the original iPhone, and even more unbelievable
> that they didn't correct this on the 3G model.
Agreed. It'll probably be corrected by 3rd-party software, but it was a
very strange, glaring omission for a "high-end" phone.
> 4. The browser, while better than the one on my old PocketPC, is still
> very limited in what it supports.
It's still far and away the best phone browser available today all-around
(balancing rendering speed, UI, screen res, etc.)
> 5. Entering a lot of text is not something you want to do with the
>virtual keyboard. If you're going to be doing a lot of e-mail then you
> want a phone with a slide-out keyboard.
Or at least a dial-pad with predictive text. Anything you can actually
press!
> What I really don't like about the whole iPhone concept is paying
> such a high monthly fee, ostensibly for internet access, when there
> is so much free WiFi around, and when 3G is so limited in its coverage.
How is that different than other carriers and platforms? Blackberries
won't work without BIS or BES, so every carrier requires some specialized
data plan, Verizon won't letyou activate a PDA phone without buying a data
plan. I agree the policy stinks, but it's hard to pick on the iPhone alone
for that flaw...
- 09-06-2008, 06:38 PM #13CharlesGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated With Fast Food Leading To Obesity
In article <[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Wow, just when I forgot you were from the deep south, you say something
> really ignorant to remind everyone. Now hurry off to Waffle House for lunch.
You are being a little bigoted yourself. Being from the deep south has
nothing to do with Larry's being ignorant or him being an ignorant
anti-semite.
--
Charles
- 09-06-2008, 07:20 PM #14LarryGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated With Fast Food Leading To Obesity
SMS <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>> You gotta give 'em an "A" for salesmanship......Once brainwashed by
>> the hype, they doggedly defend this crap like Jews do Israel.
>
> Wow, just when I forgot you were from the deep south, you say
> something really ignorant to remind everyone. Now hurry off to Waffle
> House for lunch.
>
>
What did I say that was "ignorant", Jews defend Israel?
Is it the 'J'word that offends you or don't they defend Israel doggedly, no
matter what atrocities it commits?
http://www.gtr5.com/
Just so Americans NEVER forget....
It was no accident....ever.
- 09-06-2008, 07:24 PM #15LarryGuest
Re: iPhone 13 reasons to avoid: 5) iPhone Marketing Associated With Fast Food Leading To Obesity
Charles <[email protected]> wrote in news:060920082038428442%[email protected]:
> ignorant
> anti-semite.
>
http://www.gtr5.com/
They were all "anti-semites", too?
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