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- 05-28-2006, 08:01 PM #1kwdavidsGuest
I have a Motorola V557 with Cingular as my provider. I want to get one
of these $10 dial-up ISP's and connect my laptop to the Internet via
the cell phone.
I have the USB cable and the Motorola modem driver and it seems to
connect OK.
I tried PeoplePC Online and the mobile phone dials them up, then then
it quickly disconnects. PeoplePC tech support says cell phones don't
work with their service.
Question 1: can my hardward connect to a dial-up ISP?
Question 2: Which dial-up ISP would support such a thing?
Thank,
Kevin
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- 05-28-2006, 08:23 PM #2AustinmanGuest
Re: Looking for Dial-up ISP for my mobile phone
"kwdavids" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have a Motorola V557 with Cingular as my provider. I want to get one
> of these $10 dial-up ISP's and connect my laptop to the Internet via
> the cell phone.
>
> I have the USB cable and the Motorola modem driver and it seems to
> connect OK.
>
> I tried PeoplePC Online and the mobile phone dials them up, then then
> it quickly disconnects. PeoplePC tech support says cell phones don't
> work with their service.
>
> Question 1: can my hardward connect to a dial-up ISP?
> Question 2: Which dial-up ISP would support such a thing?
>
> Thank,
> Kevin
I don't recall the technical reasons, but the short answer is no, you will
not be able to use a dial up account from your mobile phone. If you are
looking for a cost effective method to connect your PC via your phone, you
can sign up for Cingular's Media Net (unlimited $20 per month). Having said
that you need to be aware that Cingular prohibits you doing this
(http://www.cingular.com/media/media_legal). As long as you do not download
too much data you will probably get away with it. In other words keep below
their radar. For more information on configuring Media Net see, John Navas's
web site at:
http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm
- 05-28-2006, 08:38 PM #3kwdavidsGuest
Re: Looking for Dial-up ISP for my mobile phone
I actually tried Media Net. The phone tried to log in and returned a
message saying that I had to have the "Data option". I called Cingular
tech support and they confirmed that MediaNet wouldn't work with laptop
Internet; I would have to get the laptop Internet option which is
unlimited for $59. Way too much for an occasional use.
- 05-28-2006, 10:21 PM #4DecaturTxCowboyGuest
Re: Looking for Dial-up ISP for my mobile phone
kwdavids wrote:
> I actually tried Media Net. The phone tried to log in and returned a
> message saying that I had to have the "Data option". I called Cingular
> tech support and they confirmed that MediaNet wouldn't work with laptop
> Internet; I would have to get the laptop Internet option which is
> unlimited for $59. Way too much for an occasional use.
It *WILL* work, they intentionally mislead you.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ will help you.
BUT....you do risk getting hit with data charges.
You could just drop the $19/mo MediaNet, and that way its only $39/mo
extra to your bill for the data plan.
On a side note...I noticed that when I had Cingular removed from a
client's phone and added the data plan, he could no longer connect using
[email protected] as the user name and had to use
[email protected] or [email protected].
- 05-29-2006, 10:32 AM #5AustinmanGuest
Re: Looking for Dial-up ISP for my mobile phone
"kwdavids" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I actually tried Media Net. The phone tried to log in and returned a
> message saying that I had to have the "Data option". I called Cingular
> tech support and they confirmed that MediaNet wouldn't work with laptop
> Internet; I would have to get the laptop Internet option which is
> unlimited for $59. Way too much for an occasional use.
>
Calling tech. support is not an option, as it is not a supported feature. I
am afraid you are on your own, except for the friendly folks in this group
:-).
- 05-29-2006, 11:38 AM #6Jud HardcastleGuest
Re: Looking for Dial-up ISP for my mobile phone
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> > Question 1: can my hardward connect to a dial-up ISP?
> > Question 2: Which dial-up ISP would support such a thing?
> >
> I don't recall the technical reasons, but the short answer is no, you will
> not be able to use a dial up account from your mobile phone. If you are
Not exactly. You can use a dial up account (via the phones data menus
NOT just by dialing the ISP!) if you have CSD (Circuit Switched Data -
comes out of minutes - very slow as in 9600) enabled on the account --
the problem appears to be finding a CSR that 1) knows what the heck
you're talking about and 2) knows how to add it to a GSM account. There
was some reports that the system would no longer accept the feature
codes to add it to a pure GSM account. It still works on a GAIT account
both on the GAIT phone and on a GSM-only one--mine got disabled awhile
back and it took me days to get it going again--had to ***** until I got
a tech level person who solved it in about 30 seconds. But--I'm now
seeing two entries on the bill, one for "wireless internet express" for
$2.54 and another for "wap-my wireless window" at $3.99. CSD was
supposed to be $3.99 so maybe WIE isn't needed if you use your own ISP--
I haven't had time to experiment.
I've also seen conflicting reports here about CSD is included in the
MediaNet packages--some said it is and some say it isn't. If the error
message the OP got about "having to have a data option" is the one I
think it is it's so vague as to be meaningless--I get it sometimes and I
can reboot and try again and it goes thru. Can anyone confirm they can
use CSD with just a MediaNet package?
--
Jud
Dallas TX USA
- 05-30-2006, 02:08 PM #7DavidGuest
Re: Looking for Dial-up ISP for my mobile phone
On 2006-05-28 22:38:48 -0400, "kwdavids" <[email protected]> said:
>
> Internet; I would have to get the laptop Internet option which is
> unlimited for $59. Way too much for an occasional use.
I have something they call PDACnctUntlAdd for 39.99/month. My Treo will
access the internet fine using either the isp.cingular and wap.cingular
settings. (I've not noticed any difference.) Would using DUN incurred
the wrath of Cingular or is that covered?
- 06-01-2006, 11:38 PM #8CliffGuest
Re: Looking for Dial-up ISP for my mobile phone
"DecaturTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> kwdavids wrote:
> > I actually tried Media Net. The phone tried to log in and returned a
> > message saying that I had to have the "Data option". I called Cingular
> > tech support and they confirmed that MediaNet wouldn't work with laptop
> > Internet; I would have to get the laptop Internet option which is
> > unlimited for $59. Way too much for an occasional use.
>
> It *WILL* work, they intentionally mislead you.
>
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ will help you.
>
> BUT....you do risk getting hit with data charges.
>
> You could just drop the $19/mo MediaNet, and that way its only $39/mo
> extra to your bill for the data plan.
>
> On a side note...I noticed that when I had Cingular removed from a
> client's phone and added the data plan, he could no longer connect using
> [email protected] as the user name and had to use
> [email protected] or [email protected].
>
>
I think misled is the wrong words. If Cingular states everywhere you are
not supposed to do it and you call them and ask them to help you do it then
they should say something to the effect that Cingular does not support that
and I can not support that.
- 06-01-2006, 11:41 PM #9CliffGuest
Re: Looking for Dial-up ISP for my mobile phone
"Jud Hardcastle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > > Question 1: can my hardward connect to a dial-up ISP?
> > > Question 2: Which dial-up ISP would support such a thing?
> > >
> > I don't recall the technical reasons, but the short answer is no, you
will
> > not be able to use a dial up account from your mobile phone. If you are
>
> Not exactly. You can use a dial up account (via the phones data menus
> NOT just by dialing the ISP!) if you have CSD (Circuit Switched Data -
> comes out of minutes - very slow as in 9600) enabled on the account --
> the problem appears to be finding a CSR that 1) knows what the heck
> you're talking about and 2) knows how to add it to a GSM account. There
> was some reports that the system would no longer accept the feature
> codes to add it to a pure GSM account. It still works on a GAIT account
> both on the GAIT phone and on a GSM-only one--mine got disabled awhile
> back and it took me days to get it going again--had to ***** until I got
> a tech level person who solved it in about 30 seconds. But--I'm now
> seeing two entries on the bill, one for "wireless internet express" for
> $2.54 and another for "wap-my wireless window" at $3.99. CSD was
> supposed to be $3.99 so maybe WIE isn't needed if you use your own ISP--
> I haven't had time to experiment.
>
> I've also seen conflicting reports here about CSD is included in the
> MediaNet packages--some said it is and some say it isn't. If the error
> message the OP got about "having to have a data option" is the one I
> think it is it's so vague as to be meaningless--I get it sometimes and I
> can reboot and try again and it goes thru. Can anyone confirm they can
> use CSD with just a MediaNet package?
> --
> Jud
> Dallas TX USA
The CSD - like the mobile fax - are not offered by Cingular any more and can
not be provisioned on accounts. If you have it you can keep it but
otherwise SOL
- 06-02-2006, 12:38 AM #10DecaturTxCowboyGuest
Re: Looking for Dial-up ISP for my mobile phone
Cliff wrote:
> I think misled is the wrong words. If Cingular states everywhere you are
> not supposed to do it and you call them and ask them to help you do it then
> they should say something to the effect that Cingular does not support that
> and I can not support that.
Well...how about the Cingular rep was incorrect in saying that it would
not work (from the technical stand point of it actually working in
reality), and then saying we don't allow it and won't support it.
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