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  1. #1
    Douglas C. Neidermeyer
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    Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    in September.

    Doug





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  2. #2
    John Navas
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    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:57:41 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
    <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    >going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    >in September.


    Yep. Old news here. Not terribly surprising.

    --
    Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  3. #3
    Scott
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:57:41 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
    > <[email protected]> wrote in
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >>Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    >>going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    >>in September.

    >
    > Yep. Old news here. Not terribly surprising.
    >


    Not terribly surprising for a company that has no clue how to effectively
    migrate customers from one platform to another. They are so deserving of
    their latest JD Power ranking.





  4. #4
    Bucky
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    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    > Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    > going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    > in September.


    Bastards. Anyone know where I can sign up for a free/discount phone
    without paying the $36 activation charge?




  5. #5
    Anon E. Muss
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    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:57:41 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    >going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    >in September.


    See: <http://tinyurl.com/ht3ee> and <http://tinyurl.com/z6j7r>.



  6. #6
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    > going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    > in September.
    >
    > Doug


    It hit Yahoo this morning.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060801/...ngular_fees_dc



  7. #7
    Jud Hardcastle
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    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    In article <[email protected]>, spamfilter0
    @navasgroup.com says...
    > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:57:41 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
    > <[email protected]> wrote in
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    > >Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    > >going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    > >in September.

    >
    > Yep. Old news here. Not terribly surprising.
    >
    >

    Wonder if us GAIT-plan users will get hit too? If I recall the GAIT
    plans were already paying a premium over the standard ones at that time.

    If so I'll have to pay it anyway--no way I can get by with a GSM-only
    phone in TX yet--still far too many holes in rural areas.
    --
    Jud
    Dallas TX USA



  8. #8
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    Bucky wrote:
    > Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    >> Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    >> going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    >> in September.

    >
    > Bastards. Anyone know where I can sign up for a free/discount phone
    > without paying the $36 activation charge?


    Costco sells Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon, and they don't charge an
    activation charge.

    Amazon has very good rebates that more than offset the activation
    charge, you'll still come out ahead.



  9. #9
    Bucky
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    SMS wrote:
    > Costco sells Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon, and they don't charge an
    > activation charge.


    Thanks, I'll check it out.

    > Amazon has very good rebates that more than offset the activation
    > charge, you'll still come out ahead.


    Unfortunately, they have rules that say you can't use it to replace an
    existing service (even if you sign up for a "new" line, then cancel
    your existing line).




  10. #10
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    Bucky wrote:
    > SMS wrote:
    >> Costco sells Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon, and they don't charge an
    >> activation charge.

    >
    > Thanks, I'll check it out.
    >
    >> Amazon has very good rebates that more than offset the activation
    >> charge, you'll still come out ahead.

    >
    > Unfortunately, they have rules that say you can't use it to replace an
    > existing service (even if you sign up for a "new" line, then cancel
    > your existing line).


    Right, you would have to change carriers, but you can port your number
    (except you cannot port from another carrier to Cingular, but you can
    port to any of the other carriers from any of the carriers.



  11. #11
    Douglas C. Neidermeyer
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:57:41 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
    > <[email protected]> wrote in
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >>Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    >>going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    >>in September.

    >
    > Yep. Old news here. Not terribly surprising.
    >



    Actually it is. You'd think a big sophisticated company would understand
    that the carrot is better than the stick getting people to change their
    behavior. Offer an inducement to change phones, don't say if you don't,
    we'll punish you.

    Guess that tells you how much they care about their customers and what their
    approach to them is.

    Bet that's how the suits run the company too...glad I don't work there....

    Doug





  12. #12
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:54:30 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
    <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:57:41 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> <[email protected]>:
    >>
    >>>Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    >>>going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    >>>in September.

    >>
    >> Yep. Old news here. Not terribly surprising.

    >
    >Actually it is. You'd think a big sophisticated company would understand
    >that the carrot is better than the stick getting people to change their
    >behavior. Offer an inducement to change phones, don't say if you don't,
    >we'll punish you.


    It offers the same inducements to them that it offers to everyone else.

    >Guess that tells you how much they care about their customers and what their
    >approach to them is.


    Why should they get a better deal?

    >Bet that's how the suits run the company too...glad I don't work there....


    The company is clearly being run well.

    --
    Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  13. #13
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    > "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:57:41 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> <[email protected]>:
    >>
    >>> Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    >>> going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    >>> in September.

    >> Yep. Old news here. Not terribly surprising.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Actually it is. You'd think a big sophisticated company would understand
    > that the carrot is better than the stick getting people to change their
    > behavior. Offer an inducement to change phones, don't say if you don't,
    > we'll punish you.


    They simply don't care if the few million remaining TDMA/AMPS customers
    leave. They even stated that there will be a hit in regards to churn by
    their action.

    They probably have a good idea of the number of customers they'll lose
    by this action. As long as it's not enough to make them lose their
    number one spot in terms of number of subscribers, it's a way of ridding
    themselves of low ARPU customers.



  14. #14
    Mark W. Oots
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge


    "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:57:41 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> <[email protected]>:
    >>
    >>>Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular
    >>>was
    >>>going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers
    >>>starting
    >>>in September.

    >>
    >> Yep. Old news here. Not terribly surprising.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Actually it is. You'd think a big sophisticated company would understand
    > that the carrot is better than the stick getting people to change their
    > behavior. Offer an inducement to change phones, don't say if you don't,
    > we'll punish you.
    >
    >

    Actually, letters are going out now offering waived upgrade fees for TDMA
    and TDMA/Gait customers. They'll it the door a full month before the 5 bucks
    hits their bills. The VIP site also has "special deals" for some of those
    customers on hardware. (Yes, those deals are tied to ARPU and profitability-
    That's WHY you go into business, to make a profit, not as a public service)

    Mark





  15. #15
    Joe Versaggi
    Guest

    Re: $5 monthly surcharge

    Bucky wrote:
    > Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
    >
    >>Saw a headline crawler on one of the cable news channels that Cingular was
    >>going to impose a $5 monthly surcharge to non-GSM phone customers starting
    >>in September.

    >
    > Bastards. Anyone know where I can sign up for a free/discount phone
    > without paying the $36 activation charge?
    >


    Just do this:
    - go to Sprint PCS Online (like I just did),
    - pick a $29.99 Fair & Flexible plan,
    - they'll have UPS drop it off in 3 business days. $36 fee waived.
    - do indepdendent research on the various free and cheap CDMA/AMPS
    phones. Some are bad, some are good.
    - Forget local number portability to keep it simple and in case Sprint
    doesn't work out.

    I just got a Nokia 6016i. Backup plan was a Sanyo RL-4930 brick phone.
    Once you try it out for a week, call up Stinkular, and tell them to
    stick their $39.99 GSM plans up their ass.




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