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  1. #1
    Alex Willmer
    Guest
    Evening All

    I've a T39 bought from ebay 12 months ago (and have used until now). I just
    switched contracts from TMobile to Orange. However the orange sim won't
    work in my T39, it does work in the Siemens A55 that came in the contract.
    The SIM works in other phones also.

    Any clues that might resolve this would be most welcome. How can I confirm
    the phone is unlocked? Can orange lock a SIM to a particular phone (and can
    I get around this)? Anyone know what causes this?

    I've taken some photos, one of the SIMLock menu, in the Service menu
    (showing open padlocks I think). The other is of the main screen; top-left
    there's a strange cross-through-handset symbol that I don't know the
    meaning of. Links below (14kb each):

    http://www.alexwillmer.uklinux.net/funnysymbol.jpg
    http://www.alexwillmer.uklinux.net/simlock.jpg

    Many Thanks

    Alex



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  2. #2
    Michael Pronay
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    Re: Unlocked T39: It won't take an Orange SIM, but still knows I have voicemail?!

    Alex Willmer <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I've taken some photos, one of the SIMLock menu, in the Service
    > menu (showing open padlocks I think).


    The padlocks are open, so it's not SIM-locked. No idea where the
    problem is.

    Btw, do all five padlocks appear open?

    > The other is of the main
    > screen; top-left there's a strange cross-through-handset symbol
    > that I don't know the meaning of. Links below (14kb each):
    >
    > http://www.alexwillmer.uklinux.net/funnysymbol.jpg


    I'm not quite sure what you mean with "top-left", as it seems to be
    top-right, but anyhow, that's what the manual says: "You cannot
    receive any incoming calls."; the other one being: "You have received
    a voice message."

    HTH,

    M.



  3. #3
    eggster2k
    Guest

    Re: Unlocked T39: It won't take an Orange SIM, but still knows I have voicemail?!

    On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:31:53 GMT, Alex Willmer <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Evening All
    >
    >I've a T39 bought from ebay 12 months ago (and have used until now). I just
    >switched contracts from TMobile to Orange. However the orange sim won't
    >work in my T39, it does work in the Siemens A55 that came in the contract.
    >The SIM works in other phones also.
    >
    >Any clues that might resolve this would be most welcome. How can I confirm
    >the phone is unlocked? Can orange lock a SIM to a particular phone (and can
    >I get around this)? Anyone know what causes this?
    >
    >I've taken some photos, one of the SIMLock menu, in the Service menu
    >(showing open padlocks I think). The other is of the main screen; top-left
    >there's a strange cross-through-handset symbol that I don't know the
    >meaning of. Links below (14kb each):
    >
    >http://www.alexwillmer.uklinux.net/funnysymbol.jpg
    >http://www.alexwillmer.uklinux.net/simlock.jpg
    >
    >Many Thanks
    >
    >Alex



    have you done a network search to see what networks come up?



  4. #4
    Alex Willmer
    Guest

    Re: Unlocked T39: It won't take an Orange SIM, but still knows I have voicemail?!

    eggster2k wrote:

    > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:31:53 GMT, Alex Willmer <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Evening All
    >>
    >>I've a T39 bought from ebay 12 months ago (and have used until now). I
    >>just switched contracts from TMobile to Orange. However the orange sim
    >>won't work in my T39, it does work in the Siemens A55 that came in the
    >>contract. The SIM works in other phones also.
    >>
    >>Any clues that might resolve this would be most welcome. How can I confirm
    >>the phone is unlocked? Can orange lock a SIM to a particular phone (and
    >>can
    >>I get around this)? Anyone know what causes this?
    >>
    >>I've taken some photos, one of the SIMLock menu, in the Service menu
    >>(showing open padlocks I think). The other is of the main screen; top-left
    >>there's a strange cross-through-handset symbol that I don't know the
    >>meaning of. Links below (14kb each):
    >>
    >>http://www.alexwillmer.uklinux.net/funnysymbol.jpg
    >>http://www.alexwillmer.uklinux.net/simlock.jpg
    >>
    >>Many Thanks
    >>
    >>Alex

    >
    >
    > have you done a network search to see what networks come up?


    Thanks. I had tried that multiple times, and it hadn't worked - but I just
    went through the list of networks (under preferred networks) adding any
    named Orange, tried again now and it worked.

    Again, many thanks.

    Alex



  5. #5
    Alex Willmer
    Guest

    Re: Unlocked T39: It won't take an Orange SIM, but still knows I have voicemail?!

    eggster2k wrote:

    > have you done a network search to see what networks come up?


    Unfortunately the connection was a 1 off, I couldn't repeat it.

    It's transpired the problem wasn't with any settings on the phone, but that
    the IMEI is blacklisted by Orange. The SIM works in any other handset, and
    the handset works with any non-orange SIM.

    I've contacted orange support who say the phone was blacklisted, but that no
    name, reason or date is recorded with the blacklisting. Nor did they have
    any record of the former owner.

    Having bought the phone in good faith, and having used it without incident
    for 12 months on T-Mobile - do I have any recourse to get orange to remove
    the blacklisting? Especially considering that they can't say why they
    blacklisted it, or when.

    Regards

    Alex



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