news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

"John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Portability does require the former carrier to tie your lie through the
> system... Depedning on their switching and NOCs abilties, it will take
> time... It iosnt simply a keppunch on a keyboard and boom...
>
> Plus you have then to have the new carrier port that incoming line to
> their system and configure...
>
> This isnt a simple plug and replug anymore...
>
> Any carrier will set procedures to protect themselves financially
> (several carriers have said wont release account in arrears or such) and
> liability wise for calls until proted properly...
>
> Makes business sense regardless...
>
>
>
Potentially, that would mean that someone who is in dispute over a bill may
not even be able to take their number with them.

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Exactly.. and why should they?

"Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
> "John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Portability does require the former carrier to tie your lie through the
> > system... Depedning on their switching and NOCs abilties, it will take
> > time... It iosnt simply a keppunch on a keyboard and boom...
> >
> > Plus you have then to have the new carrier port that incoming line to
> > their system and configure...
> >
> > This isnt a simple plug and replug anymore...
> >
> > Any carrier will set procedures to protect themselves financially
> > (several carriers have said wont release account in arrears or such) and
> > liability wise for calls until proted properly...
> >
> > Makes business sense regardless...
> >
> >
> >
> Potentially, that would mean that someone who is in dispute over a bill may
> not even be able to take their number with them.
>
>

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Exactly.. and why should they?

"Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
> "John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Portability does require the former carrier to tie your lie through the
> > system... Depedning on their switching and NOCs abilties, it will take
> > time... It iosnt simply a keppunch on a keyboard and boom...
> >
> > Plus you have then to have the new carrier port that incoming line to
> > their system and configure...
> >
> > This isnt a simple plug and replug anymore...
> >
> > Any carrier will set procedures to protect themselves financially
> > (several carriers have said wont release account in arrears or such) and
> > liability wise for calls until proted properly...
> >
> > Makes business sense regardless...
> >
> >
> >
> Potentially, that would mean that someone who is in dispute over a bill may
> not even be able to take their number with them.
>
>

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"John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Exactly.. and why should they?


I could think of several legitimite reasons. In fact, billing issues could
be the reason some people leave in the first place.

"John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Exactly.. and why should they?


I could think of several legitimite reasons. In fact, billing issues could
be the reason some people leave in the first place.

> In article <[email protected]>,
> robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm (O/Siris .) wrote:
>
> > That's actually *not* how WLNP will work once it's active. We're
> > getting the first details on it now.

"Phill." <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Its how Cingular says it WILL work at Cingular.

No.

From the Cingular WLNP page, supporting sales reps and other Cingular
Employees:

"Start the process with your new carrier. If you cancel your current
service with your existing carrier, you may end up losing your number. "

Please have whoever told you otherwise check with their normal
information channel for an update; they are handing out incorrect
information.

[posted via phonescoop.com]

> In article <[email protected]>,
> robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm (O/Siris .) wrote:
>
> > That's actually *not* how WLNP will work once it's active. We're
> > getting the first details on it now.

"Phill." <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Its how Cingular says it WILL work at Cingular.

No.

From the Cingular WLNP page, supporting sales reps and other Cingular
Employees:

"Start the process with your new carrier. If you cancel your current
service with your existing carrier, you may end up losing your number. "

Please have whoever told you otherwise check with their normal
information channel for an update; they are handing out incorrect
information.

[posted via phonescoop.com]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:36:14 -0000, [email protected] (John Andrews)
wrote:

>Any carrier will set procedures to protect themselves financially
>(several carriers have said wont release account in arrears or such) and
>liability wise for calls until proted properly...

Except that the FCC ruled in July that you cannot be held hostage by
your carrier either for pending charges or the ETF. You are
responsible for the charges, but you are not prohibited from going to
a new carrier and the older carrier has to abide by the request to
port their number to another carrier.
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:36:14 -0000, [email protected] (John Andrews)
wrote:

>Any carrier will set procedures to protect themselves financially
>(several carriers have said wont release account in arrears or such) and
>liability wise for calls until proted properly...

Except that the FCC ruled in July that you cannot be held hostage by
your carrier either for pending charges or the ETF. You are
responsible for the charges, but you are not prohibited from going to
a new carrier and the older carrier has to abide by the request to
port their number to another carrier.
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That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a new
car before you trade in your old one?


"Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John wrote:
> > One other question, come to think of it. Do you have to do the number
port
> > when you sign up? I'd be interested in trying out the phone and service
for
> > a few weeks before porting the number over and canceling the old
service. I
> > can only imagine how crappy it'd be to port the number over and then
realize
> > the thing doesn't work well.
>
>
> Well, John, if you don't have some reasonable assurance that the grass
> really is greener on the other side, why are you climbing the fence?
>
> --
> jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
> "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
> what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
>

That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a new
car before you trade in your old one?


"Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John wrote:
> > One other question, come to think of it. Do you have to do the number
port
> > when you sign up? I'd be interested in trying out the phone and service
for
> > a few weeks before porting the number over and canceling the old
service. I
> > can only imagine how crappy it'd be to port the number over and then
realize
> > the thing doesn't work well.
>
>
> Well, John, if you don't have some reasonable assurance that the grass
> really is greener on the other side, why are you climbing the fence?
>
> --
> jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
> "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
> what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
>

John wrote:
> That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
> service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
> whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a new
> car before you trade in your old one?
>


Actually, no, I don't test drive these days. I figure if I don't know
enough about the car's condition and drivability to already want it,
I've got no business buying it. If I did decide to test drive, it'd
have to be for at least a week or longer, certainly long enough to do
a really swell road trip - and the only way that's gonna happen is to
rent one similar enough to make it worthwhile. But that's about cars
which have no returnability if it turns out I just don't like how it
drives. Cingular offers a 14 day bail-out clause in all new
contracts, but if it's a ported number, what'cha gonna do? port it
back? I suppose you could. Or, you could rent a Cingular phone for a
while until you've determined it's value - sorta like my vacation test
drive in a rental.


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jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

John wrote:
> That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
> service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
> whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a new
> car before you trade in your old one?
>


Actually, no, I don't test drive these days. I figure if I don't know
enough about the car's condition and drivability to already want it,
I've got no business buying it. If I did decide to test drive, it'd
have to be for at least a week or longer, certainly long enough to do
a really swell road trip - and the only way that's gonna happen is to
rent one similar enough to make it worthwhile. But that's about cars
which have no returnability if it turns out I just don't like how it
drives. Cingular offers a 14 day bail-out clause in all new
contracts, but if it's a ported number, what'cha gonna do? port it
back? I suppose you could. Or, you could rent a Cingular phone for a
while until you've determined it's value - sorta like my vacation test
drive in a rental.


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"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

"Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John wrote:
> > That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
> > service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
> > whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a
new
> > car before you trade in your old one?
> >
>
>
> Actually, no, I don't test drive these days. I figure if I don't know
> enough about the car's condition and drivability to already want it,
> I've got no business buying it.

Well, that would be nice, but a sane person would want to see for themselves
if they can keep their ass in the seat while driving, check the clutch
functioning, make sure it doesn't ride to stiff or too soft, etc.

You are brave indeed to make such a purchase decision based merely on spec
sheets and word of mouth. I, on the other hand, am a chicken and prefer to
see for myself of the car is a POS.


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"Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John wrote:
> > That's the point. I *want* to get reasonable assurance (testing out the
> > service) before jumping the fence (porting the number). That's what the
> > whole 14 day return period is about. Don't you normally test drive a
new
> > car before you trade in your old one?
> >
>
>
> Actually, no, I don't test drive these days. I figure if I don't know
> enough about the car's condition and drivability to already want it,
> I've got no business buying it.

Well, that would be nice, but a sane person would want to see for themselves
if they can keep their ass in the seat while driving, check the clutch
functioning, make sure it doesn't ride to stiff or too soft, etc.

You are brave indeed to make such a purchase decision based merely on spec
sheets and word of mouth. I, on the other hand, am a chicken and prefer to
see for myself of the car is a POS.


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