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    CozmicDebris
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    Re: Oxtard SPAM

    Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
    >
    >> > ah? what? you clearly don't know much about 802.11, it always
    >> > touches wire unless you are sharing Apple machines point to point
    >> > like on an airplane in an ad-hoc network configuration.

    >>
    >> Good- thanks for proving my point, newbie. So, how do you propose to
    >> make those wired connections free?

    >
    > FON is one example, putting your email address as your SSID is
    > another, Linspot is another, etc, etc.


    That only makes the pointof entry free. THe data then has to travel
    over wires, which are far from free.

    Try again, newbie.


    >
    >> >> Therefore, some sort of wired backhaul network is required to get
    >> >> data from A to B.
    >> >
    >> > Sure, and it's called the Internet, Cell Companies have very little
    >> > knowledge of it since they try and keep everything on slow,
    >> > obsolete servers.

    >>
    >> Why do you keep going back to cell companies? But if you
    >> insist....do you realize that two of the largest cell companies are
    >> hauling the great majority of your data as you steal thoses wifi
    >> connections?

    >
    > what? at&t carries less than 1% of my data. and it's not stealing,
    > it's sharing. learn the difference.


    I wasn't talking about AT&T. Two carriers own a great chunk of the
    internet backbone.

    And if you haven't asked permisiion to use the wifi, it is stealing.
    Learn the difference.

    >
    >> > 3G is horribly slow for this reason alone. 802.11 goes right to the
    >> > web, or ftp, etc.

    >>
    >> Huh? Please tell me that you have a better understanding than that.
    >> That 3G wireless connection goes right to a T1 wired connection,
    >> which is far superior to the dsl connection you're stealing. And as
    >> you say, it goes right to the web, or ftp, etc.

    >
    > now way in hell is 3G better than my wireless/802.11 connection. there
    > is no comparison when you try and limp along on a cell signal.


    I don't limp along- the system is designed to handle multiple users with
    no loss in performance. Your wifi connection, otoh, crawls when more
    than single user is trying to get data through the dsl connection it's
    using.

    >
    >> As for the speed, you continue to show your stupidity. The 802.11
    >> connection does not dictate speed.

    >
    > sure it does, b, n, g those are all faster than 3G.


    ut it still doesn't dictate the speed. The connection at the wire does,
    you moron.

    >
    >> >Cell companies can't even fathom this level of
    >> > sophistication and will try and push it through a MS product before
    >> > it reaches the web.

    >>
    >> And yet they haul most of your data.....how interesting.

    >
    > not my data. maybe yours since you don't desire fast connections.


    Yes your data- guaranteed. You are indirectly supplying cash and
    business to companies doing business in cellular

    >
    >> > No thanks! iPhone users will demand the best, keeping Cell/MS
    >> > products out of the mix entirely. As it should be.

    >>
    >> Which is why it will ultimately fail.

    >
    > nope, the computer industry is far larger, more innovative than the
    > cell industry. i give them another 10 years, then poof!


    No basis in fact for that statement. The vision of a retard hardly
    qualifies as actionable data.


    >
    >> >> You're an idiot if you argue otherwise, moron.
    >> >>
    >> >> Welcome to the internet, newbie.
    >> >
    >> > I've been on the internet since bitnet was all the rage, Cozmic you
    >> > are entirely clueless when you type. Everyone sees right through
    >> > your ignorance on this topic.

    >>
    >> No they don't. We all laugh at your stupidity.

    >
    > Ah, but i out wit you at every turn. you just don't have the tech
    > background to debate at my level.
    >


    Bring it on, child. I've shown your many flaws and knowledge gaps in
    this single thread. But if you want to give it your best shot, go for
    it. We'll see how quickly you can pull bad data from Google.




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  2. #167
    Mitch
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    Re: Oxtard SPAM

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    <[email protected]>,
    Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > Good- thanks for proving my point, newbie. So, how do you propose to
    > > make those wired connections free?

    >
    > FON is one example, putting your email address as your SSID is another,
    > Linspot is another, etc, etc.


    What you are offering is methods of SHARING the access that people pay
    for. That is totally unrelated to the question -- which, again, was how
    all access everywhere becomes FREE.
    (For example, FON is a method for getting authorized access to
    someone's PAID FOR access away from home. You get it either by buying
    access direct from FON, or by sharing your own home network (paid by
    you) in cooperation. No one is getting anything free!)

    > nope, the computer industry is far larger, more innovative than the cell
    > industry. i give them another 10 years, then poof!

    But the computer industry does NOT control that infrastructure you are
    basing your statements upon. Especially not since your claim is about
    how wireless is going to take over!

    > > No they don't. We all laugh at your stupidity.

    >
    > Ah, but i out wit you at every turn. you just don't have the tech
    > background to debate at my level.

    Oxford, please tell me you don't feel like you have been winning all of
    these 'debates'. You haven't even been using technical issues to debate
    it -- you've been talking about vague impressions and guesses at future
    product success!



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