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- 08-08-2008, 02:50 AM #1David MoyerGuest
Lotus Notes is coming to the iPhone which is no big surprise considering
how popular it has become in the enterprise. Below is some of the
article and links to iNotes screenshots.
---
IBM has unveiled a sneak peek of its new Lotus iNotes, a web app client
for its Lotus Domino messaging server to bring email, calendar, and
contacts to iPhone. The move fulfills rumors of customized iPhone
support for Lotus Notes and demonstrates IBM's evolving interest in
Apple within the enterprise.
Planned for delivery later this year, Lotus iNotes is built upon IBM's
existing Lotus Domino Web Access infrastructure. The company's web site
invites users to "bring the enterprise to your Apple iPhone" and says
the software will deliver a "rich Apple iPhone user experience."
IBM betting on Apple
Support for the iPhone in Lotus Notes is only IBM's latest step in
investing in Apple's platforms as a competitive alternative to
Microsoft's Windows. An AP report from January cited IBM spokesman Mike
Azzi as noting that his company has "a lot in common" with Apple. "We're
going to cross-pollinate," he said.
Earlier this year in May, IBM released its Informix Data Server 11 for
Mac OS X Server. And over the course of the last year, multiple groups
within the company have launched pilot programs aimed at evaluating
support for migrating to Apple's Mac computers within the company.
An initial study at IBM Research, which started in October of 2007,
found that 86% of those participating wanted to keep their MacBook Pro
laptops over returning back to IBM ThinkPads running Windows. ³It has
been easier learning the Mac than learning Vista,² one participant
reported. IBM has since expanded its Mac pilot program.
Full Article and nice screenshots here:
http://snipurl.com/3css0 [www_appleinsider_com]
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- 08-08-2008, 03:12 AM #2Steve de MenaGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
David Moyer wrote:
> Lotus Notes is coming to the iPhone which is no big surprise considering
> how popular it has become in the enterprise. Below is some of the
> article and links to iNotes screenshots.
>
"no big surprise considering how popular it has become in the enterprise."
You're joking, no?
Steve
- 08-08-2008, 03:24 AM #3Jim MasonGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Lotus Notes is coming
The relevance to a.c.n being what?
- 08-08-2008, 09:00 AM #4LarryGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
David Moyer <[email protected]> wrote in news:489c08e4$0$48220$815e3792
@news.qwest.net:
> IBM betting on Apple
>
IBM's betting Apple will have cut and paste before this puppy ever
happens.....(c;
Maybe CTRL-C and CTRL-P? No, that won't work, no control clicker on the
Etch-A-Sketch keyboard. Hmm....Maybe iNotes will be later than we
think....
- 08-08-2008, 09:01 AM #5LarryGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
Steve de Mena <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> David Moyer wrote:
>> Lotus Notes is coming to the iPhone which is no big surprise
>> considering how popular it has become in the enterprise. Below is
>> some of the article and links to iNotes screenshots.
>>
>
> "no big surprise considering how popular it has become in the
> enterprise."
>
> You're joking, no?
>
> Steve
>
Ok, ok...everybody quit rolling around under their computer desk....(c;
No, Steve, he's dead serious. He thinks it's a business machine. Sad,
isn't it?
- 08-08-2008, 02:11 PM #6Alan BakerGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve de Mena <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > David Moyer wrote:
> >> Lotus Notes is coming to the iPhone which is no big surprise
> >> considering how popular it has become in the enterprise. Below is
> >> some of the article and links to iNotes screenshots.
> >>
> >
> > "no big surprise considering how popular it has become in the
> > enterprise."
> >
> > You're joking, no?
> >
> > Steve
> >
>
> Ok, ok...everybody quit rolling around under their computer desk....(c;
>
> No, Steve, he's dead serious. He thinks it's a business machine. Sad,
> isn't it?
IBM seems to think it's a business machine...
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
- 08-08-2008, 02:37 PM #7eatfastnoodleGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
On Aug 8, 3:50*am, David Moyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lotus Notes is coming to the iPhone which is no big surprise considering
> how popular it has become in the enterprise. Below is some of the
> article and links to iNotes screenshots.
>
> ---
>
> IBM has unveiled a sneak peek of its new Lotus iNotes, a web app client
> for its Lotus Domino messaging server to bring email, calendar, and
> contacts to iPhone. The move fulfills rumors of customized iPhone
> support for Lotus Notes and demonstrates IBM's evolving interest in
> Apple within the enterprise.
>
> Planned for delivery later this year, Lotus iNotes is built upon IBM's
> existing Lotus Domino Web Access infrastructure. The company's web site
> invites users to "bring the enterprise to your Apple iPhone" and says
> the software will deliver a "rich Apple iPhone user experience."
>
> IBM betting on Apple
>
> Support for the iPhone in Lotus Notes is only IBM's latest step in
> investing in Apple's platforms as a competitive alternative to
> Microsoft's Windows. An AP report from January cited IBM spokesman Mike
> Azzi as noting that his company has "a lot in common" with Apple. "We're
> going to cross-pollinate," he said.
>
> Earlier this year in May, IBM released its Informix Data Server 11 for
> Mac OS X Server. And over the course of the last year, multiple groups
> within the company have launched pilot programs aimed at evaluating
> support for migrating to Apple's Mac computers within the company.
>
> An initial study at IBM Research, which started in October of 2007,
> found that 86% of those participating wanted to keep their MacBook Pro
> laptops over returning back to IBM ThinkPads running Windows. ³It has
> been easier learning the Mac than learning Vista,² one participant
> reported. IBM has since expanded its Mac pilot program.
>
> Full Article and nice screenshots here:
>
> http://snipurl.com/3css0* *[www_appleinsider_com]
IBM is fundamentally a hardware company. Their software sucks, plain
and simple. Lotus might be a huge deal 10 years ago. But it isn't much
today. And IBM's awful record with software doesn't help.
- 08-08-2008, 07:15 PM #8eatfastnoodleGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
On Aug 8, 7:05*pm, "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I take offence to 'Their software sucks, plain
> and simple.'
>
> You must be a PC person, and have no clue they are the largest software
> company in the world.
>
> Do you remember the census?
> How about voting records.
> How about the Moon??
>
> As far as Lotus, well I am not impressed with that, but they did not write
> it.
>
> >IBM is fundamentally a hardware company. Their software sucks, plain
> >and simple. Lotus might be a huge deal 10 years ago. But it isn't much
> >today. And IBM's awful record with software doesn't help.
I work on high performance computing. While I agree their stuff that
often built with hardware as a bundle is good. Their record with stuff
that people use in day to day bases is ugly.
- 08-08-2008, 10:25 PM #9LarryGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
[email protected]:
> IBM seems to think it's a business machine...
>
>
They used to think our Systems 34 was a business machine, too! We proved
them wrong on many occasions....(c;
Many years later, a local Catholic church gave me a complete System 34 with
OS and manufacturing softwares. I kept it for a couple of years but needed
the warehouse for other stuff so we pushed it up in my van, after stripping
some beautiful power supply parts out of it. We backed the van up to a
huge dumpster, put down the ramp from the truck to the lip of the dumpster
and unceremoniously dumped a couple of hundred grand of IBM minicomputer, 6
terminals, a chain printer and some terminal equipment....into the trash.
One of the 14" platters from one of the fixed disk drives and an 8" hard-
sectored monster floppy are in a nice frame a friend provided on my wall, a
bit of IBM history. I think I remember the huge hard drives, two of them
in my unit, that took 3-phase 208VAC at about 70A to power the main CPU
with its drives, were something like 84MB...megabytes with the M, not
G...that stored what the 16K of RAM wanted to save...(c; I don't remember,
quite, but I think RAM was magnetic cores in holes on PC board frames, but
I can't quite remember that. By the simplest standards of today, it was
nothing.
The first memory storage I ever saw was also IBM. It was an 8 kilobyte
memory drum the size of a Volkswagen, and about as heavy. 8K! We weren't
allowed to go into the room where it was operating, only look through a big
window Cornell University had installed for observation. The slightest
movement caused it to crash hard requiring some really expensive repairs.
Yes, I can see iPhone may fascinate IBM as a business machine...(c;
.....just hope some young IBM whippersnapper doesn't notice its Xerox GUI
interface....inventors of Windoze...(c;
- 08-08-2008, 10:34 PM #10LarryGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
eatfastnoodle <[email protected]> wrote in news:013066ea-067f-4697-a0f2-
[email protected]:
> I work on high performance computing. While I agree their stuff that
> often built with hardware as a bundle is good. Their record with stuff
> that people use in day to day bases is ugly.
>
>
I have a friend who is a field service engineer with EMC. While snooping
through his van at all the neat, but amazingly expensive, hardware for
their Symmetrix massive storage boxes, he handed me a rather normal-looking
IBM standard sized PC hard drive mounted in an EMC hot-swap frame.
"Ok, what so special about this one?"
"It turns 100,000 RPM and is the fastest hard drive available.", he said
offhandedly. As he had 6 of them in the van, I tried to sneak away with
the one in my hand but didn't get halfway across the parking lot before he
caught up to me....(c;
Imagine how fast a 100,000 RPM drive reads and writes sectors next time
you're staring at your PC or Mac's drive lite waiting to get control back
from the disk wait state....compared to your cheap 7200 RPM slow boat to
China.
The drive was only 80GB.....but no waiting!
Very cool indeed, especially when two of them mirror the data on that
massive EMC memory card between them that is solidly packed with SIP memory
so fast the fastest NT system is so slow they have to put wait states in
the Symmetrix to keep from overrunning it...(c;
There's a pretty good chance this message was stored on a Symmetrix
refridgerator-sized storage box between us....
Wouldn't it be cool to have a hard drive box as fast as your supercomputer
CPU?
- 08-08-2008, 11:09 PM #11Steve de MenaGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
Larry wrote:
> I have a friend who is a field service engineer with EMC. While snooping
> through his van at all the neat, but amazingly expensive, hardware for
> their Symmetrix massive storage boxes, he handed me a rather normal-looking
> IBM standard sized PC hard drive mounted in an EMC hot-swap frame.
>
> "Ok, what so special about this one?"
>
> "It turns 100,000 RPM and is the fastest hard drive available.", he said
> offhandedly. As he had 6 of them in the van, I tried to sneak away with
> the one in my hand but didn't get halfway across the parking lot before he
> caught up to me....(c;
>
> Imagine how fast a 100,000 RPM drive reads and writes sectors next time
> you're staring at your PC or Mac's drive lite waiting to get control back
> from the disk wait state....compared to your cheap 7200 RPM slow boat to
> China.
I don't know of any 100,000 RPM drives. From *any* vendor. And I
work with EMC Symmetrix's daily. The fastest drives they are pushing
now are the solid state drives. For non-solid state drives the
fastest are the 15k FC drives.
> The drive was only 80GB.....but no waiting!
>
> Very cool indeed, especially when two of them mirror the data on that
> massive EMC memory card between them that is solidly packed with SIP memory
> so fast the fastest NT system is so slow they have to put wait states in
> the Symmetrix to keep from overrunning it...(c;
I don't buy that either. Data in RAM in a computer/server would
always move faster than any data that could come off of the Symmetrix.
> There's a pretty good chance this message was stored on a Symmetrix
> refridgerator-sized storage box between us....
>
> Wouldn't it be cool to have a hard drive box as fast as your supercomputer
> CPU?
Steve
- 08-08-2008, 11:22 PM #12TimberwoofGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> "It turns 100,000 RPM and is the fastest hard drive available.", he said
> offhandedly. As he had 6 of them in the van, I tried to sneak away with
> the one in my hand but didn't get halfway across the parking lot before he
> caught up to me....(c;
>
> Imagine how fast a 100,000 RPM drive reads and writes sectors next time
> you're staring at your PC or Mac's drive lite waiting to get control back
> from the disk wait state....compared to your cheap 7200 RPM slow boat to
> China.
Imagine how fast a 100,000 RPM hard drive would fragment and cut you in
half.
Someone check my math here...
100,000 RPM = 1667 RPs = .0006 s/r
3.5" width ~ 3" platter = 76 mm diameter = .076 m diameter
Divide by 2 for a .038 m radius
Mix in some Pi for a .24 m circumference
..24 m / .0006 s = 400 m/s speed at the edge
a = v^2 / r
so
(400 m/s) ^ 2 / .04 m = 4,000,000 m^2/s
Divide by 10 m/s^2 (close enough to the acceleration of gravity for this)
and we get 400,000 G. That stretches credulity and any material I know
of. What's it made of?
For comparison, a 7200 RPM drive generates a force of ~2200 G at the
outer edge of the platters. Maybe he meant 10,000 RPM? That only
generates ~4300 G at the edge.
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
People who can't ***** get kicked out of Hogwarts.
- 08-09-2008, 01:26 AM #13Steve de MenaGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
Timberwoof wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "It turns 100,000 RPM and is the fastest hard drive available.", he said
>> offhandedly. As he had 6 of them in the van, I tried to sneak away with
>> the one in my hand but didn't get halfway across the parking lot before he
>> caught up to me....(c;
>>
>> Imagine how fast a 100,000 RPM drive reads and writes sectors next time
>> you're staring at your PC or Mac's drive lite waiting to get control back
>> from the disk wait state....compared to your cheap 7200 RPM slow boat to
>> China.
>
> Imagine how fast a 100,000 RPM hard drive would fragment and cut you in
> half.
>
> Someone check my math here...
> 100,000 RPM = 1667 RPs = .0006 s/r
> 3.5" width ~ 3" platter = 76 mm diameter = .076 m diameter
> Divide by 2 for a .038 m radius
> Mix in some Pi for a .24 m circumference
> .24 m / .0006 s = 400 m/s speed at the edge
> a = v^2 / r
> so
> (400 m/s) ^ 2 / .04 m = 4,000,000 m^2/s
> Divide by 10 m/s^2 (close enough to the acceleration of gravity for this)
> and we get 400,000 G. That stretches credulity and any material I know
> of. What's it made of?
>
> For comparison, a 7200 RPM drive generates a force of ~2200 G at the
> outer edge of the platters. Maybe he meant 10,000 RPM? That only
> generates ~4300 G at the edge.
I think it was all B.S. I don't even think EMC uses IBM drives (IBM
is a big storage competitor of theirs).
Steve
- 08-09-2008, 08:16 AM #14eatfastnoodleGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
On Aug 9, 2:26*am, Steve de Mena <[email protected]> wrote:
> Timberwoof wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > *Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> "It turns 100,000 RPM and is the fastest hard drive available.", he said
> >> offhandedly. *As he had 6 of them in the van, I tried to sneak away with
> >> the one in my hand but didn't get halfway across the parking lot before he
> >> caught up to me....(c;
>
> >> Imagine how fast a 100,000 RPM drive reads and writes sectors next time
> >> you're staring at your PC or Mac's drive lite waiting to get control back
> >> from the disk wait state....compared to your cheap 7200 RPM slow boat to
> >> China.
>
> > Imagine how fast a 100,000 RPM hard drive would fragment and cut you in
> > half.
>
> > Someone check my math here...
> > 100,000 RPM = 1667 RPs = .0006 s/r
> > 3.5" width ~ 3" platter = 76 mm diameter = .076 m diameter
> > Divide by 2 for a .038 m radius
> > Mix in some Pi for a .24 m circumference
> > .24 m / .0006 s = 400 m/s speed at the edge
> > a = v^2 / r
> > so
> > (400 m/s) ^ 2 / .04 m *= 4,000,000 m^2/s
> > Divide by 10 m/s^2 (close enough to the acceleration of gravity for this)
> > and we get 400,000 G. That stretches credulity and any material I know
> > of. What's it made of?
>
> > For comparison, a 7200 RPM drive generates a force of ~2200 G at the
> > outer edge of the platters. Maybe he meant 10,000 RPM? That only
> > generates ~4300 G at the edge.
>
> I think it was all B.S. * I don't even think EMC uses IBM drives (IBM
> is a big storage competitor of theirs).
>
> Steve
I think IBM has sold their storage business long time ago. Right now,
their hardware business comprises mainly of chips and mainframes.
- 08-09-2008, 11:35 AM #15MilesGuest
Re: IBM now coming to the iPhone with iNotes
Why do you and so many others when talking about iPhones include
alt.cellular.nokia in your distribution? Nokia is unrelated to IPhone
and your msgs clutter up the newsgroup.
Miles
* David Moyer wrote, On 8/8/2008 01:50:
> Lotus Notes is coming to the iPhone which is no big surprise considering
> how popular it has become in the enterprise. Below is some of the
> article and links to iNotes screenshots.
>
> ---
>
> IBM has unveiled a sneak peek of its new Lotus iNotes, a web app client
> for its Lotus Domino messaging server to bring email, calendar, and
> contacts to iPhone. The move fulfills rumors of customized iPhone
> support for Lotus Notes and demonstrates IBM's evolving interest in
> Apple within the enterprise.
>
> Planned for delivery later this year, Lotus iNotes is built upon IBM's
> existing Lotus Domino Web Access infrastructure. The company's web site
> invites users to "bring the enterprise to your Apple iPhone" and says
> the software will deliver a "rich Apple iPhone user experience."
>
> IBM betting on Apple
>
> Support for the iPhone in Lotus Notes is only IBM's latest step in
> investing in Apple's platforms as a competitive alternative to
> Microsoft's Windows. An AP report from January cited IBM spokesman Mike
> Azzi as noting that his company has "a lot in common" with Apple. "We're
> going to cross-pollinate," he said.
>
> Earlier this year in May, IBM released its Informix Data Server 11 for
> Mac OS X Server. And over the course of the last year, multiple groups
> within the company have launched pilot programs aimed at evaluating
> support for migrating to Apple's Mac computers within the company.
>
> An initial study at IBM Research, which started in October of 2007,
> found that 86% of those participating wanted to keep their MacBook Pro
> laptops over returning back to IBM ThinkPads running Windows. ³It has
> been easier learning the Mac than learning Vista,² one participant
> reported. IBM has since expanded its Mac pilot program.
>
> Full Article and nice screenshots here:
>
> http://snipurl.com/3css0 [www_appleinsider_com]
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