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  1. #1
    DSL GURU
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    http://biz.yahoo.com/smart/031106/20...onsacti_4.html

    says in part:

    After the introduction of wireless number portability, anywhere from 12 million
    to 18 million people are expected to switch who wouldn't have done so
    otherwise, says David Meredith, vice president at American Management Systems,
    a communications consulting company in Fairfax, Va. That's in addition to the
    36% of wireless customers who already switch their provider each year,
    according to company research.



    See More: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules




  2. #2
    O/Siris
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    In article <[email protected]>, DSL=20
    [email protected] says...
    > After the introduction of wireless number portability, anywhere from 12 m=

    illion
    > to 18 million people are expected to switch who wouldn't have done so
    > otherwise, says David Meredith, vice president at American Management Sys=

    tems,
    > a communications consulting company in Fairfax, Va. That's in addition to=

    the
    > 36% of wireless customers who already switch their provider each year,
    > according to company research.
    >=20
    >=20


    Maybe. But I find it hard to believe there's *no* overlap.

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    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



  3. #3
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    O/Siris wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>, DSL
    > [email protected] says...
    >> After the introduction of wireless number portability, anywhere from 12
    >> million to 18 million people are expected to switch who wouldn't have
    >> done so otherwise, says David Meredith, vice president at American
    >> Management Systems, a communications consulting company in Fairfax, Va.
    >> That's in addition to the 36% of wireless customers who already switch
    >> their provider each year, according to company research.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Maybe. But I find it hard to believe there's *no* overlap.
    >



    I wonder how many of that 36% is prepaid business? Technically, a customer
    would 'churn' if they decided to pick up a new phone instead of recharging
    their current one ( can you say "Street Corner Pharmacist"?). And if they
    go from prepay to postpay service, they would also be a churn candidate.



  4. #4
    Weekend Sunshine
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    > I wonder how many of that 36% is prepaid
    > business?


    Don't all carriers have prepaid business, which would also similarlyy affect
    their churn rates, still leaving Sprint{CS with highest churn rate?



  5. #5
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    Weekend Sunshine wrote:

    >> I wonder how many of that 36% is prepaid
    >> business?

    >
    > Don't all carriers have prepaid business, which would also similarlyy
    > affect their churn rates, still leaving Sprint{CS with highest churn rate?


    I should have been more specific- I was really talking about prepay only
    services.



  6. #6
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    Weekend Sunshine wrote:

    >> I wonder how many of that 36% is prepaid
    >> business?

    >
    > Don't all carriers have prepaid business, which would also similarlyy
    > affect their churn rates, still leaving Sprint{CS with highest churn rate?



    1. The article (and the tiny little portion you snipped from it) talks
    about industry numbers. Sprint PCS is not mentioned specifically.

    2. If prepay is included in the number, then it is not a true indicator of
    real churn. Prepay accounts are meant to provide temproray service in many
    cases, and the dropping of that account is not a concern to a carrier. In
    other cases, prepay is designed for high risk customers. These are
    customers that the carriers will not extend credit to, and typically the
    most likely to churn.

    If prepay is included in this number, it is not an accurate portrayal of the
    true churn number.



  7. #7
    DSL GURU
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules


    > If prepay is included in this number, it is not an
    > accurate portrayal of the
    > true churn number.


    But regardless of how you count it, SprintPCS churnb is highest in industry and
    increasing.



  8. #8
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    DSL GURU wrote:

    >
    >> If prepay is included in this number, it is not an
    >> accurate portrayal of the
    >> true churn number.

    >
    > But regardless of how you count it, SprintPCS churnb is highest in
    > industry and increasing.


    Nope- if the press is including pre-pay, it is a misrepresentation of the
    true state of affairs. Companies want prepay customers to 'churn'- it make
    more profit for them when they have to activate a new phone.



  9. #9
    DSL GURU
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    Prove that prepays count in churn, and then prove Sprint has a higher
    percentage of prepays than others, otherwise it doesnt matter.



  10. #10
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    DSL GURU wrote:

    > Prove that prepays count in churn, and then prove Sprint has a higher
    > percentage of prepays than others, otherwise it doesnt matter.


    An apparent attempt by the factless resident Sprint troll to obsfucate the
    truth. He has no facts to back up his claim, and is simply trying to hide
    the truth from the users of this group.

    That sound about right? Does it have the proper tone? You provided the
    numbers- you back them up. And if you can't, then stop posting things you
    know nothing about. The burden is not on me- you posted something, and I'm
    calling you on the accuracy of the numbers, and what they include. It is
    now time to put up or shut up.



  11. #11
    DSL GURU
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    No, the SprintPCS apologist stole the term I used on him, as he wants to
    obfuscate SprintPCS's high churn by throwing prepaid into the mix. The burden
    is upon you to proce that prepaid makes a difference. SprintPCS hasnt tried to
    use that excuse, why do you?

    SprintPCS asmitted that its churn was up instead of down in the October 23
    quarterly report to the SEC. That and its poor performance adding customers,
    losing market share, and losing money caused its stock price to stock.

    So what is it that gets Scott so upset about that, what's his tie to SprintPCS.



  12. #12
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    DSL GURU wrote:

    > No, the SprintPCS apologist stole the term I used on him, as he wants to
    > obfuscate SprintPCS's high churn by throwing prepaid into the mix. The
    > burden is upon you to proce that prepaid makes a difference. SprintPCS
    > hasnt tried to use that excuse, why do you?


    No backup for your number? THen it is worthless. If you care to post
    things, you should at least understand the reasoning behind the numbers.
    Your title of troll loser still applies.

    >
    > SprintPCS asmitted that its churn was up instead of down in the October 23
    > quarterly report to the SEC. That and its poor performance adding
    > customers, losing market share, and losing money caused its stock price to
    > stock.


    Facts, Phil- provide facts and not your ceaseless whining.

    >
    > So what is it that gets Scott so upset about that, what's his tie to
    > SprintPCS.


    Yet another thing you have been able to prove. But, go ahead and try- I'm
    always up for a good laugh.



  13. #13
    O/Siris
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    DSL [email protected] says...
    > But regardless of how you count it, SprintPCS churnb is highest in indust=

    ry and
    > increasing.
    >=20


    Really? Hmmm...

    http://tinyurl.com/ud30

    Some things don't quite looks as much like Armageddon for=20
    SPCS as The Word According to Phill would have us believe.

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    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



  14. #14
    DSL GURU
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    Your URL doesn't even mention SprintPCS, which has the highest (and increasing)
    churn in the industry.



  15. #15
    O/Siris
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    Re: How to Exploit the New Cell-Phone Rules

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    [email protected] says...
    > Your URL doesn't even mention SprintPCS, which has the highest (and incre=

    asing)
    > churn in the industry.
    >=20


    That's because the worst, contrary to your claims, are US Cellular and=20
    T-Mo.

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    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



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