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- 11-15-2003, 03:19 PM #1Jim CateroGuest
I usually only lurk here but I'm curious.
Does anyone else find it unethical that this guy .. Phillipe is it ?
Seems to only have negative things to say about PCS but is perfectly
happy to rape them on a retention plan while totally running them down.
Obviously he has mental issues, I mean look at the amount of names he
uses, the frequency of his posts, the fact that when cornered he will go
on a rant that has nothing to do with the thread, or will totally ignore
anything not conforming with his , well let's be honest , slanted
point of view.
The man is an obvious Troll, and is mostly posting in order to stir up
things, it's apparent that this gives him some odd pleasure.
My 2nd Question is, in light of all this evidence why do we respond to
him ? what do we hope to accomplish ? do we think by some miracle he
will see the light and stop his insane actions ?
If it is the intent to retaliate to his troll tactics then we have been
going about it all wrong.
The only way to truly stop this guy, the only way to get his goat is to
totally ignore him, granted he will most likely do something pathetic at
1st like respond to his own drivel when no one else will, but if ignored
I feel he will eventually give up talking to himself and go elsewhere
for his sport.
My suggestion is to boycott any post he makes, totally ignore him. This
may be difficult as he will surely try any tactic in a desperate attempt
to save his twisted status here, but if we all hold steady I'm sure
sooner or later he will give up, or straighten up.
Any thought ? , anyone willing to form an alliance to this effect /
Jim
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- 11-15-2003, 03:39 PM #2DSL GURUGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
Well, the IP# shows it's Michael Arends.
At least he's not using explitives from his
office today.
Such totally incorrect descriptions will
prove to be counter productive.
- 11-15-2003, 04:26 PM #3Steven J SobolGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
DSL GURU <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, the IP# shows it's Michael Arends.
So what? You're out to screw the company for every penny you can while
you badmouth them. I think there's a lot of merit to the theory that you
are an ex-employee, although I don't necessarily think it's true. If you
were, it'd make perfect sense.
I'll be the first to admit that you occasionally do post nuggets of useful
information, but most of what you post is crap, going on and on and on about
how the carrier you supposedly enjoy using is going down the tubes. Oh, but
you continue to use them. Hm, now, if I was so completely sure that my
carrier was going under, I'd probably switch. I mean, if something happened,
I'd rather have already moved carriers and changed numbers so I wouldn't
get stuck.
I already dumped one carrier (Northcoast PCS) when their network went to
hell a year after they launched their unlimited $39.95/month service in
Cleveland. The difference between you and I is this: I didn't keep on
blathering on and on about it. I posted a couple times how crappy they'd
become, but it was not a half-dozen posts every day about how they're the
worst carrier in the world, which seems to be what you're doing with SPCS.
Oh, wait a minute, but that would be *logical* - wouldn't it.
We all know Sprint has customer service issues. No one is arguing that,
least of all me. (Oh, I *am* arguing that? Hm, you think you can point to
some proof, Phil?)
But you post the same thing over and over again, morphing and morphing
and morphing so that people have to re-killfile you. Let me clue you into
something: You don't have a God-given right to force your message
on everyone. Stay with one screen name. People who want to read you will
read you. People who don't want to read you can just keep you killfiled.
Oh, and another thing. You seem to ignore questions posed to you in
response to your replies. Not all the time, but often enough that I and
others have noticed it. I wonder why?
**SJS (waiting to be called names by Phillipe because he won't want to
address any of my points)
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- 11-15-2003, 04:39 PM #4Jim CateroGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
What an idiot,
I don't even know who the hell Michael what's his name is, my name is
posted right here ya moron.
I would expect something like this from you.
Now back to the original intent here.
Is ANYONE willing to shut this nut off ?
Please respond, I think he's nervous now, it'd would be a blast to see
what happens when people start actually responding. should make for some
interesting posts don't you think ?
Jim Catero
I don't work for Sprint, if I did Phillpe would have to find another
carrier.
DSL GURU wrote:
> Well, the IP# shows it's Michael Arends.
>
> At least he's not using explitives from his
> office today.
>
> Such totally incorrect descriptions will
> prove to be counter productive.
>
>
- 11-15-2003, 04:59 PM #5Scott StephensonGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
Steven J Sobol wrote:
> DSL GURU <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, the IP# shows it's Michael Arends.
Phil is the last one that should point out IP addresses and aliases. What
are you up to Phil, 25 different names?
>
> So what? You're out to screw the company for every penny you can while
> you badmouth them. I think there's a lot of merit to the theory that you
> are an ex-employee, although I don't necessarily think it's true. If you
> were, it'd make perfect sense.
He's never denied the ex-employee angle, and I've posted it more than once.
>
> I'll be the first to admit that you occasionally do post nuggets of useful
> information, but most of what you post is crap, going on and on and on
> about how the carrier you supposedly enjoy using is going down the tubes.
> Oh, but you continue to use them. Hm, now, if I was so completely sure
> that my carrier was going under, I'd probably switch. I mean, if something
> happened, I'd rather have already moved carriers and changed numbers so I
> wouldn't get stuck.
Steven, he trolls many more groups than this one. I've personally seen his
drivel on 5 different groups.
<snip>
>
> We all know Sprint has customer service issues. No one is arguing that,
> least of all me. (Oh, I am arguing that? Hm, you think you can point to
> some proof, Phil?)
That's the beauty of it- no one has ever argued about the quality of PCS
customer service, and yet he continues to argue it. Do you think its news
to anyone here, Phil?
>
> But you post the same thing over and over again, morphing and morphing
> and morphing so that people have to re-killfile you. Let me clue you into
> something: You don't have a God-given right to force your message
> on everyone. Stay with one screen name. People who want to read you will
> read you. People who don't want to read you can just keep you killfiled.
It his false feeling of self-importance- he tries to come off as an expert,
and yet, the majority of stuff he posts is crap. Never researches, just
shoots from the hip.
>
> Oh, and another thing. You seem to ignore questions posed to you in
> response to your replies. Not all the time, but often enough that I and
> others have noticed it. I wonder why?
I'll take a stab at that- he doesn't answer because:
a. He knows answering will negate whatever point he is tryingto make.
b. He has no clue about how the industry, its technology, and its
financials work.
And I'll bet I've asked at least 50 questions in the last month alone that
he has refused to answer.
And Phil- the only reason I continue to post in response to your crap is
because I wouldn't want a newbie to PCS to stumble on here, think you
actually know what you are talking about and base a decision on your
personal opinions dressed up as facts.
One last thing for the troll- before you start on the apologist crap, I'll
tell you for at least the fifth time-
I don't work for Sprint, and never have.
I don't receive any type of financial consideration or compensation from
Sprint, and never have.
I don't use Sprint PCS , and never have.
I don't use any Sprint product, and never have.
And yet, I do have an interest in PCS.......use that little spacesaver
between your ears and try to figure it out.
- 11-15-2003, 05:01 PM #6DSL GURUGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
Sobol, nice try
- 11-15-2003, 05:03 PM #7DSL GURUGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
Michael Arends is Jim catero who mysteriously appeared on Usenet on Nov 13,
2003 with a "test" message, but knows all about this newsgroup?
Go back to Boeing,
- 11-15-2003, 07:06 PM #8Steven J SobolGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
DSL GURU <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sobol, nice try
hm, no answers. Once again, Philly ignores every single point I made.
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- 11-15-2003, 08:09 PM #9Bob SmithGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> DSL GURU <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Sobol, nice try
>
> hm, no answers. Once again, Philly ignores every single point I made.
Trolling toads always ignore the points Steven ... Especially the one
trolling toad who has used 26+ ids here ...
Bob
- 11-15-2003, 08:10 PM #10Bob SmithGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
"DSL GURU" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Michael Arends is Jim catero who mysteriously appeared on Usenet on Nov
13,
> 2003 with a "test" message, but knows all about this newsgroup?
>
> Go back to Boeing,
You should take the same advice you give Phillipe ... and just go back into
your hole ...
Bob
- 11-15-2003, 08:21 PM #11CraigGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
Does anyone remember Antonio C? He used to post a lot too
- 11-15-2003, 09:01 PM #12Bob SmithGuest
Re: Lack of ethics ?
"Craig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone remember Antonio C? He used to post a lot too
Yes, he did. In his case, he was 180 degrees from Phillipe. He posted here a
few weeks ago, trying to sell a few of his older phones ...
Bob
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