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- 05-15-2004, 06:48 PM #1Røbert M.Guest
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Eric) wrote:
> (Bob*Smith) wrote:
> <<Also, that SPCS will probably re-open the Horizon stores, which were
> closed a few months ago. Further details can be read @
> http://tinyurl.com/29zam
> Bob>>
>
> Hopefully, Sprint and Horizon can work something out for the Northern
> Indiana/Gary market. I don't see a noticeable difference in coverage
> quality, but they shut down the local Sprint store in my area and the
> other one is about 30 minutes away. Plus, Sprint has no real
> representation here except for Radio Shack.
From my reading SprintPCS is buying the money losing West Virginia
market, and Horizon is keeping the "good" stuff.
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- 05-15-2004, 11:34 PM #2Bob SmithGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
"Røbert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Eric) wrote:
>
> > (Bob Smith) wrote:
> > <<Also, that SPCS will probably re-open the Horizon stores, which were
> > closed a few months ago. Further details can be read @
> > http://tinyurl.com/29zam
> > Bob>>
> >
> > Hopefully, Sprint and Horizon can work something out for the Northern
> > Indiana/Gary market. I don't see a noticeable difference in coverage
> > quality, but they shut down the local Sprint store in my area and the
> > other one is about 30 minutes away. Plus, Sprint has no real
> > representation here except for Radio Shack.
>
> From my reading SprintPCS is buying the money losing West Virginia
> market, and Horizon is keeping the "good" stuff.
Oh? And just how do you read that? Why would you say that Western Virginia
and West Virginia are money losers?
Bob
- 05-16-2004, 12:17 AM #3Steven J SobolGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh? And just how do you read that? Why would you say that Western Virginia
> and West Virginia are money losers?
He'd tell you, but Sprint forced him to sign an NDA.
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- 05-16-2004, 07:45 AM #4Jared GeigerGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Oh? And just how do you read that? Why would you say that Western
Virginia
> > and West Virginia are money losers?
>
> He'd tell you, but Sprint forced him to sign an NDA.
>
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I live in southern WV and go to school in Blacksburg, VA. I used to work for
Radio Shack and of course sold Sprint. Part of the reason this market is
probably losing money is because of Sprint's lack of tough credit
evaluations when setting up new users. We'd run a credit check on a customer
on Verizon, they'd come back with a $1000 deposit required, we'd run then
for Sprint and it would say they were authorized for 4 lines of service no
deposit. The risk with these people is that they tend to either not pay
their bill, or perpetually pay them late. Granted I can't say everyone that
uses Sprint here is like that, but many people wait till the last minute to
pay bills.
Horizon has done a decent job with providing good coverage. I rarely get a
dropped call and I can hold a data call from Princeton to Beckley without a
hiccup. The Roanoke, VA area is also densely covered. I rarely have a
dropped call... knock on wood. I am glad that SPCS is taking the market
though, F&CA is a great addon that never was worth it until now that the
possibilty of 50% is here. Thank goodness.
Finally, Sprint, just don't mess with the current CSRs in the stores, they
are very nice people. I would hate to see them go.
Jared
- 05-16-2004, 08:04 AM #5Bob SmithGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
"Jared Geiger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I live in southern WV and go to school in Blacksburg, VA. I used to work
for
> Radio Shack and of course sold Sprint. Part of the reason this market is
> probably losing money is because of Sprint's lack of tough credit
> evaluations when setting up new users. We'd run a credit check on a
customer
> on Verizon, they'd come back with a $1000 deposit required, we'd run then
> for Sprint and it would say they were authorized for 4 lines of service no
> deposit. The risk with these people is that they tend to either not pay
> their bill, or perpetually pay them late. Granted I can't say everyone
that
> uses Sprint here is like that, but many people wait till the last minute
to
> pay bills.
>
> Horizon has done a decent job with providing good coverage. I rarely get a
> dropped call and I can hold a data call from Princeton to Beckley without
a
> hiccup. The Roanoke, VA area is also densely covered. I rarely have a
> dropped call... knock on wood. I am glad that SPCS is taking the market
> though, F&CA is a great addon that never was worth it until now that the
> possibilty of 50% is here. Thank goodness.
>
> Finally, Sprint, just don't mess with the current CSRs in the stores, they
> are very nice people. I would hate to see them go.
I'm a bit confused here Jared. I was under the impression that Horizon had
closed all their local cell stores. What current local CSRs are there now?
Also, when did you stop working for Radio Shack? I'm asking only because
SPCS started tightening down on the creditworthiness of their customers back
in September ...
Bob
Bob
- 05-16-2004, 09:25 AM #6Jared GeigerGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
> I'm a bit confused here Jared. I was under the impression that Horizon had
> closed all their local cell stores. What current local CSRs are there now?
>
> Also, when did you stop working for Radio Shack? I'm asking only because
> SPCS started tightening down on the creditworthiness of their customers
back
> in September ...
>
> Bob
Horizon closed most of their stores, but left a few open. The store in
Roanoke, VA is still open and I believe the store in Lynchburg, VA is open.
I also think the store in Charleston, WV is still open. However the
Christiansburg, VA and Beckley, WV stores closed.
Yes I did quit working for Radio Shack in August to go back to school. I'm
glad to see that SPCS started making it harder to get service through them.
Jared
- 05-16-2004, 10:43 AM #7Bob SmithGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
"Jared Geiger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> > I'm a bit confused here Jared. I was under the impression that Horizon
had
> > closed all their local cell stores. What current local CSRs are there
now?
> >
> > Also, when did you stop working for Radio Shack? I'm asking only
because
> > SPCS started tightening down on the creditworthiness of their customers
> back
> > in September ...
> >
> > Bob
>
>
> Horizon closed most of their stores, but left a few open. The store in
> Roanoke, VA is still open and I believe the store in Lynchburg, VA is
open.
> I also think the store in Charleston, WV is still open. However the
> Christiansburg, VA and Beckley, WV stores closed.
According to SPCS's site, Charleston does not have a pcs handset service
center, nor is there one with 50 miles. Same thing goes for Roanoke. In
addition, someone from the Roanoke area posted a few weeks to a month ago,
that the store on Valley View was closed, even though it's still listed on
SPCS's site as open.
>
> Yes I did quit working for Radio Shack in August to go back to school. I'm
> glad to see that SPCS started making it harder to get service through
them.
So do I ...
Bob
- 05-16-2004, 07:48 PM #8Jared GeigerGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Jared Geiger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > I'm a bit confused here Jared. I was under the impression that Horizon
> had
> > > closed all their local cell stores. What current local CSRs are there
> now?
> > >
> > > Also, when did you stop working for Radio Shack? I'm asking only
> because
> > > SPCS started tightening down on the creditworthiness of their
customers
> > back
> > > in September ...
> > >
> > > Bob
> >
> >
> > Horizon closed most of their stores, but left a few open. The store in
> > Roanoke, VA is still open and I believe the store in Lynchburg, VA is
> open.
> > I also think the store in Charleston, WV is still open. However the
> > Christiansburg, VA and Beckley, WV stores closed.
>
> According to SPCS's site, Charleston does not have a pcs handset service
> center, nor is there one with 50 miles. Same thing goes for Roanoke. In
> addition, someone from the Roanoke area posted a few weeks to a month ago,
> that the store on Valley View was closed, even though it's still listed on
> SPCS's site as open.
>
> >
> > Yes I did quit working for Radio Shack in August to go back to school.
I'm
> > glad to see that SPCS started making it harder to get service through
> them.
>
> So do I ...
>
> Bob
>
>
I can assure you that the Roanoke store is open. They are closed on
Wednesdays and Saturdays.
Jared
- 05-16-2004, 07:53 PM #9John SmithGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
as is the beckley wv store. the Ntelos market that horizon leased was sold
to sprint
"Jared Geiger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Jared Geiger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > > I'm a bit confused here Jared. I was under the impression that
Horizon
> > had
> > > > closed all their local cell stores. What current local CSRs are
there
> > now?
> > > >
> > > > Also, when did you stop working for Radio Shack? I'm asking only
> > because
> > > > SPCS started tightening down on the creditworthiness of their
> customers
> > > back
> > > > in September ...
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > Horizon closed most of their stores, but left a few open. The store in
> > > Roanoke, VA is still open and I believe the store in Lynchburg, VA is
> > open.
> > > I also think the store in Charleston, WV is still open. However the
> > > Christiansburg, VA and Beckley, WV stores closed.
> >
> > According to SPCS's site, Charleston does not have a pcs handset service
> > center, nor is there one with 50 miles. Same thing goes for Roanoke. In
> > addition, someone from the Roanoke area posted a few weeks to a month
ago,
> > that the store on Valley View was closed, even though it's still listed
on
> > SPCS's site as open.
> >
> > >
> > > Yes I did quit working for Radio Shack in August to go back to school.
> I'm
> > > glad to see that SPCS started making it harder to get service through
> > them.
> >
> > So do I ...
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
>
>
> I can assure you that the Roanoke store is open. They are closed on
> Wednesdays and Saturdays.
>
> Jared
>
>
- 05-17-2004, 12:40 AM #10Steven J SobolGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
John Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> as is the beckley wv store. the Ntelos market that horizon leased was sold
> to sprint
NTelos is a completely separate carrier - or was. Are they still in business?
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- 05-17-2004, 06:02 AM #11Nebby00007Guest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
> Oh? And just how do you read that? Why would
> you say that Western Virginia
> and West Virginia are money losers?
Because I read the story about how Horizon sued SprintPCS and was having money
troubles and the settlement was for Sprint to buy West Virginia area from them.
It's right there in B;lack and WHITE:
"These two Agreements represent a critical step forward for Horizon PCS," said
Bill McKell, president and CEO. "The asset sale will significantly improve the
company's financial status, and allow us to focus on more profitable
territories within our portfolio. The settlement of the litigation will enable
us to refocus our attention on value creation for our investors."
- 05-17-2004, 06:28 AM #12Bob SmithGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
"Nebby00007" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Oh? And just how do you read that? Why would
> > you say that Western Virginia
> > and West Virginia are money losers?
>
> Because I read the story about how Horizon sued SprintPCS and was having
money
> troubles and the settlement was for Sprint to buy West Virginia area from
them.
>
> It's right there in B;lack and WHITE:
>
>
> "These two Agreements represent a critical step forward for Horizon PCS,"
said
> Bill McKell, president and CEO. "The asset sale will significantly improve
the
> company's financial status, and allow us to focus on more profitable
> territories within our portfolio. The settlement of the litigation will
enable
> us to refocus our attention on value creation for our investors."
>
You can't equate that WV was the reason that the whole company of Horizon
PCS was losing money. Nowhere does it say that it was a coverage area losing
money. Horizon sold off that coverage area as part of the negotiations and
to get some cash.
Bob
- 05-17-2004, 11:10 AM #13Jared GeigerGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> > as is the beckley wv store. the Ntelos market that horizon leased was
sold
> > to sprint
>
> NTelos is a completely separate carrier - or was. Are they still in
business?
>
NTelos is very much still in business. They've quit offering the huge
variety of plans they used to though. I think they are still using the
Horizon/SPCS towers too. Ntelos has a web page and multiple stores around
the area still. www.ntelos.com
- 05-17-2004, 11:57 AM #14John S.Guest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
> the Ntelos market that horizon leased was sold
>> to sprint
>
>NTelos is a completely separate carrier - or was. Are they still in business?
uhhhhmmmmmm - it was sold to Sprint! My guess is that Sprint didn't buy it to
shut it off.
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- 05-17-2004, 12:13 PM #15Bob SmithGuest
Re: News - Horizon PCS and Sprint Agree to Asset Purchase and Sett...
"John S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > the Ntelos market that horizon leased was sold
> >> to sprint
> >
> >NTelos is a completely separate carrier - or was. Are they still in
business?
>
> uhhhhmmmmmm - it was sold to Sprint! My guess is that Sprint didn't buy
it to
> shut it off.
Sprint bought Ntelos? I couldn't find a thing mentioning that. Do you have a
link?
Bob
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