New Coverage Maps

In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet I
must say , I noticed that SPCS has also put up new coverage maps when
checking out coverage in your area, with a new color scheme showing the
Power Vision coverage areas.

Bob

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› See More: New Coverage Maps

The map for the Los Angeles area is terrible. It's so small you can't
even see much. The LA map should be broken down into segments or
something because it's too large of an area to show it the way they do
now.

On 2005-10-31 11:19:58 -0500, "Bob Smith"
<[email protected]> said:

> In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet
> I must say , I noticed that SPCS has also put up new coverage maps
> when checking out coverage in your area, with a new color scheme
> showing the Power Vision coverage areas.
>
> Bob

Just got my MM9000. Great phone, great sound. Plays higher bit rate MP4
ringtones well, but def. get the 1Gb miniSD card for it. Camera is
better than my 8200 was and, even though EVDO isn't rolled out in my
area yet, the download speed is rockin'. I read in PhoneScoop that the
software updates itself and has already posted a version upgrade!

Lovin' it. Sprint store didn't have the s/w yet to move my phone book!
Agh! Hoping for BitPim update (v8 JUST came out so I'm not assuming any
support anytime soon).

PowerVision works well so far, but you have to look around when it is
running. Lots of places to see some content for free on TV, but lots of
places you think you may have to pay. Navigation is clever, but to
their advantage, of course.

m

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:19:58 GMT, "Bob Smith" wrote:

>In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet I
>must say ,

Both of the Power Vision phones presently offered on the website are
digital dual band, which means no analog roaming capabilities. Is
this going to be the case for all Power Vision phones? If so, that
would stink...

Joe Huber
[email protected]

I agree. For my areas, WI and IL, they do not zoom in far enough.


[email protected] wrote:
> The map for the Los Angeles area is terrible. It's so small you can't
> even see much. The LA map should be broken down into segments or
> something because it's too large of an area to show it the way they do
> now.
>

The main reason one would pay that much for a phone would be for the
data. Data is not available in analog, and analog only areas are very
few, very far between, and very small (in the number of people who
would go there). I would think that the number of minutes that Sprint
PCS bills from/to analog only areas is a very, very, small percentage.
Probably less than one percent. The only reason the analog networks are
still up is the federal mandate.


Joseph Huber wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:19:58 GMT, "Bob Smith" wrote:
>
>
>>In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet I
>>must say ,
>
>
> Both of the Power Vision phones presently offered on the website are
> digital dual band, which means no analog roaming capabilities. Is
> this going to be the case for all Power Vision phones? If so, that
> would stink...
>
> Joe Huber
> [email protected]

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 00:04:31 +0000, Jerome Zelinske wrote:

> The main reason one would pay that much for a phone would be for the
> data. Data is not available in analog, and analog only areas are very
> few, very far between, and very small (in the number of people who
> would go there). I would think that the number of minutes that Sprint
> PCS bills from/to analog only areas is a very, very, small percentage.
> Probably less than one percent. The only reason the analog networks are
> still up is the federal mandate.
>
>
> Joseph Huber wrote:

I would think the reasoning is that sprintpcs phones tend to run 5-6yrs
and since the analog bands are suppose to be phased out over the next few
years it would be pointless expense. There are a select few who want this
feature and sprintpcs will have something for them just not in all their
flagship products.

On 01 Nov 2005 20:47:20 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>There is a lot of analog usage still from the Mississippi river on west.
>Digital does not even come close to analog coverage. I have been to
>plenty of camp grounds and resorts in Minnesota alone that has analog
>coverage only ... even in areas that show Red on the Sprint PCS map
>(including Digital Roam).

Exactly correct!! Most of the roaming I do is still on analog, and
even in areas where there are other digital providers, Sprint still
roams on analog. Here in the DFW metroplex, which is supposed to be
fully covered by Sprint, I catch my phone roaming on analog when
driving.

CDMA could really use somthing like a SIM card so users could switch
between phones. Use the EV-DO phone for normal use, and keep an old
tri-mode phone handy for areas where analog roaming is required.

Joe Huber
[email protected]

Big Mike wrote:
> Just got my MM9000. Great phone, great sound. Plays higher bit rate
> MP4 ringtones well, but def. get the 1Gb miniSD card for it. Camera is
> better than my 8200 was and, even though EVDO isn't rolled out in my
> area yet, the download speed is rockin'. I read in PhoneScoop that the
> software updates itself and has already posted a version upgrade!

I currently have the Sanyo 5500, and when on the (rare these days) trip,
"casual laptop" (tethered) use works fine. I read that Sanyo had
disabled this in their 8300. Is it now reenabled in the MM9000?

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da
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Bob,

Is Power Vision different from the old Vision or is it just a souped up
marketing term.

s. cannell
cols. oh


"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet I
> must say , I noticed that SPCS has also put up new coverage maps when
> checking out coverage in your area, with a new color scheme showing the
> Power Vision coverage areas.
>
> Bob
>

"scannell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bob,
>
> Is Power Vision different from the old Vision or is it just a souped up
> marketing term.
>
> s. cannell
> cols. oh

Like night & day S. I haven't used it (still using a Sanyo 5300), but Power
Vision is EV-DO, which increases the data speeds from 50-60Kbps (burst
speeds up to 144Kbps) on average to 400-600Kbps (burst speed up to 2.4Mbps)

Bob

Paul Miner wrote:
>> Like night & day S. I haven't used it (still using a Sanyo 5300),
>> but Power Vision is EV-DO, which increases the data speeds from
>> 50-60Kbps (burst speeds up to 144Kbps) on average to 400-600Kbps
>> (burst speed up to 2.4Mbps)

> I've been using it occasionally since December 2004 and agree with
> Bob. Under the right conditions, it's like night and day. As with
> almost anything, there are caveats, of course.

> Before you buy an EV-DO data device and upgrade your data plan, know
> what you're getting into.

Could you elaborate Paul (or provide a link or two)? For someone who
uses regular Vision, what are you "getting into" that's different
(besides the speed, of course) with Power Vision?

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da
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"Paul Miner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snipped>

> Hope that helps. I know it sounded gloomy, but the bigger picture
> isn't gloomy at all. Like I said earlier, I've been using EV-DO since
> December of last year and when it's working correctly, it's pretty
> darn amazing. If you live or work in a coverage area and are serious
> about wireless data, you'll want it.
>
> --
> Paul Miner

Yo Paul, so tell us how it is, when you are in a PV coverage area ... What
are you using it for?

Bob

Paul Miner wrote:
> The "know what you're getting into" comment comes as a result of a
> conversation I had with someone who *should* know what's going on, but
> isn't a decision maker, so take it with a grain of salt. She says that
> refunds will not be readily provided to people who blindly purchase
> EV-DO devices and/or upgrade their data plans to Power Vision and then
> subsequently discover that Power Vision isn't available in their area.
> Instead, she says, Sprint will try to educate people so as to avoid
> the incorrect purchase in the first place.
>
> This all comes about and only becomes an issue because EV-DO is not
> planned to be a complete overlay to 1xRTT. It's currently being rolled
> out to cover selected (and large) US airports, followed by selected
> metro business districts, and finally selected metro residential
> areas. When EV-DO rollout is complete, there will be substantial areas
> where EV-DO (and therefore the benefits of Power Vision) will not be
> available. Hopefully, that explains my earlier comment.
>
> The other thing worth mentioning is that EV-DO data rates are subject
> to fluctuation as 'channels' are borrowed to support voice traffic,
> not to mention data rates that naturally deteriorate at the edges of
> EV-DO coverage areas, just before the mobile device auto-switches over
> to 1xRTT. Before the auto-switch, I'm told it's possible to see a data
> rate that's actually worse than 1xRTT, and that isn't something that
> anyone wants to see or talk about, obviously.
>
> Hope that helps.

It does. Thank you.

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da
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Paul Miner wrote:
> >> Before you buy an EV-DO data device and upgrade your data plan, know
> >> what you're getting into.
> >
>
> This all comes about and only becomes an issue because EV-DO is not
> planned to be a complete overlay to 1xRTT. It's currently being rolled
> out to cover selected (and large) US airports, followed by selected
> metro business districts, and finally selected metro residential
> areas. When EV-DO rollout is complete, there will be substantial areas
> where EV-DO (and therefore the benefits of Power Vision) will not be
> available. Hopefully, that explains my earlier comment.

This should be a pleasant "surprise" to some car passenger using a
laptop
passing thru different coverage (or not) areas.

JG