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  1. #16
    Oxford
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    "Bill Kearney" <wkearney-99@hot-mail-com> wrote:

    > > apple has a very long history with phones and phone phreaking, so it
    > > will be interesting IF they bid, or tandem bid with Google.

    >
    > Um, no. Jobs and Woz had a short period of time where they made money being
    > thieves building blue boxes to steal long distance service.
    >
    > You've got your head so far up your ass you can practically see daylight
    > again.


    but apple continued to develop telephony ideas throughout its history.
    knowledge navigator was a wireless phone concept, the shipping product
    GeoPort was a telephony device. Apple developed several software only
    phones, all long before the iPhone became so successful.

    the difference is, i know Apple's history better than anyone posting
    here, so this knowledge confuses many people, mainly the so called "cell
    experts" which simply don't understand apple's deep, lifelong interest
    in wireless communications.

    they simply have no idea... i do...

    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1377/...3bffa46ca8.jpg

    http://snipurl.com/1uim8

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  2. #17
    CozmicDebris
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > "Bill Kearney" <wkearney-99@hot-mail-com> wrote:
    >
    >> > apple has a very long history with phones and phone phreaking, so
    >> > it will be interesting IF they bid, or tandem bid with Google.

    >>
    >> Um, no. Jobs and Woz had a short period of time where they made
    >> money being thieves building blue boxes to steal long distance
    >> service.
    >>
    >> You've got your head so far up your ass you can practically see
    >> daylight again.

    >
    > but apple continued to develop telephony ideas throughout its history.
    > knowledge navigator was a wireless phone concept, the shipping product
    > GeoPort was a telephony device. Apple developed several software only
    > phones, all long before the iPhone became so successful.


    So they have no experience with hardware phones, only second rate software
    solutions. Ehanks for clarifying.

    >
    > the difference is, i know Apple's history better than anyone posting
    > here,


    Not true.

    > so this knowledge confuses many people,


    No- your stupidity confuses many people.

    > mainly the so called
    > "cell experts" which simply don't understand apple's deep, lifelong
    > interest in wireless communications.


    We don't understand it because it doesn't exist.

    >
    > they simply have no idea... i do...
    >


    You barely understand how to power your computer on.



  3. #18
    Edgar
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    On 2007-12-02 11:14:01 -0600, Oxford <[email protected]> said:
    >
    > the difference is, i know Apple's history better than anyone posting
    > here, so this knowledge confuses many people, mainly the so called "cell
    > experts" which simply don't understand apple's deep, lifelong interest
    > in wireless communications.
    >
    > they simply have no idea... i do...


    As I stated before...GO SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE HEAD! You are way to
    stupid to live another minute. You are wasting oxygen that others can
    use.
    >






  4. #19
    Elmo P. Shagnasty
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

    > the difference is, i know Apple's history better than anyone posting
    > here,


    Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
    in Steve Jobs's world?

    Since you know Apple's history better than anyone posting here,
    CERTAINLY you know the answer to THIS one.

    Especially since the key to the answer was SPOON FED to you awhile back.




  5. #20
    Oxford
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:

    > >> You've got your head so far up your ass you can practically see
    > >> daylight again.

    > >
    > > but apple continued to develop telephony ideas throughout its history.
    > > knowledge navigator was a wireless phone concept, the shipping product
    > > GeoPort was a telephony device. Apple developed several software only
    > > phones, all long before the iPhone became so successful.

    >
    > So they have no experience with hardware phones, only second rate software
    > solutions. Ehanks for clarifying.


    ah, three hardware phones from apple...

    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1377/...3bffa46ca8.jpg

    http://snipurl.com/1uim8

    http://www.memoirevive.ch/newsservic...vsAppleModem.J
    PG

    apple as always built the best... so I guess the question is... why do
    you hate quality so much?

    > > the difference is, i know Apple's history better than anyone posting
    > > here,

    >
    > Not true.


    name someone better... bet you can't.

    > > so this knowledge confuses many people,

    >
    > No- your stupidity confuses many people.


    i only post facts, if you disagree, you are wrong. it's that simple.

    > > mainly the so called
    > > "cell experts" which simply don't understand apple's deep, lifelong
    > > interest in wireless communications.

    >
    > We don't understand it because it doesn't exist.


    oh, but watch a little video... which clearly proves my point. done
    around 1989, long before most cell companies were around...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WdS4TscWH8

    > > they simply have no idea... i do...
    > >

    >
    > You barely understand how to power your computer on.


    yes, and that is because on a Mac you only turn it on ONCE, then let the
    sophisticated hardware and software allow it to sleep / wake for the
    rest of its life...

    but you are still using a PC so wouldn't know much about sophisticated
    computing equipment such as Apple builds.

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  6. #21
    CozmicDebris
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
    >
    >> >> You've got your head so far up your ass you can practically see
    >> >> daylight again.
    >> >
    >> > but apple continued to develop telephony ideas throughout its
    >> > history. knowledge navigator was a wireless phone concept, the
    >> > shipping product GeoPort was a telephony device. Apple developed
    >> > several software only phones, all long before the iPhone became so
    >> > successful.

    >>
    >> So they have no experience with hardware phones, only second rate
    >> software solutions. Ehanks for clarifying.

    >
    > ah, three hardware phones from apple...
    >
    > http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1377/...3bffa46ca8.jpg
    >
    > http://snipurl.com/1uim8
    >
    > http://www.memoirevive.ch/newsservic...ortvsAppleMode

    m
    > .J PG


    Hmm- I saw a modem, fax machine and a PDA.

    >
    > apple as always built the best... so I guess the question is... why do
    > you hate quality so much?


    I love quality. I love functionality. And that is why I don't have an
    Apple.

    >
    >> > the difference is, i know Apple's history better than anyone
    >> > posting here,

    >>
    >> Not true.

    >
    > name someone better... bet you can't.
    >
    >> > so this knowledge confuses many people,

    >>
    >> No- your stupidity confuses many people.

    >
    > i only post facts, if you disagree, you are wrong. it's that simple.


    No- you post the stupid rantings of someone wanting to have SJ's baby.

    >
    >> > mainly the so called
    >> > "cell experts" which simply don't understand apple's deep, lifelong
    >> > interest in wireless communications.

    >>
    >> We don't understand it because it doesn't exist.

    >
    > oh, but watch a little video... which clearly proves my point. done
    > around 1989, long before most cell companies were around...


    I have a lifelong interest in space exploration. By your standards,
    that would qualify me to run NASA.

    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WdS4TscWH8
    >
    >> > they simply have no idea... i do...
    >> >

    >>
    >> You barely understand how to power your computer on.

    >
    > yes, and that is because on a Mac you only turn it on ONCE, then let
    > the sophisticated hardware and software allow it to sleep / wake for
    > the rest of its life...


    THat's simply proof that computers have been made for the
    developmentally challenged, such as yourself.





  7. #22
    O x f o r d
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
    > in Steve Jobs's world?


    After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
    of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.

    Yes, who is Adele Goldberg and what did she do for Apple/SJ? You were
    close with Milk and Cookies... but you might have been wrong if it was
    actually Punch and Cookies.

    So if you don't know and the world doesn't know, it confirms she did
    nothing for Apple/SJ.

    > Since you know Apple's history better than anyone posting here,
    > CERTAINLY you know the answer to THIS one.
    >
    > Especially since the key to the answer was SPOON FED to you awhile back.


    It was? Nobody on usenet knows, Adele certainly doesn't know, only YOU
    know.

    Please provide your long hidden secret... everyone is DYING to know!

    I'm sure we'll all get a great chuckle when you finally tell everyone.





  8. #23
    DTC
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    Oxford wrote:
    > oh, but watch a little video... which clearly proves my point. done
    > around 1989, long before most cell companies were around...
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WdS4TscWH8


    What point were you trying to prove.

    All that video shows is a dream list of vaporware.



  9. #24
    Snit
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    "O x f o r d" <[email protected]> stated in post
    [email protected] on 12/2/07 4:46 PM:

    > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
    >> in Steve Jobs's world?

    >
    > After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
    > of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.


    He did not want Jobs to see the famous Xerox tour... and would only do so if
    under "orders". Atkinson has described that tour as an inspiration and as
    something that helped them know they were already on the right track. Jobs
    and company understood the importance of the graphical system far better
    than did the Xerox management.



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  10. #25
    O x f o r d
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    DTC <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WdS4TscWH8

    >
    > What point were you trying to prove.
    >
    > All that video shows is a dream list of vaporware.


    not sure what you mean, apple has every portion in place except for the
    foldable screen and a bit of AI.

    wireless is there, www is there, built in camera is there, voice rec is
    there, multi-touch screen is there, ichat is there.

    and apple/sj popularized it all...

    but thanks for playing DTC!



  11. #26
    Kevin Weaver
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > O x f o r d <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
    >> > in Steve Jobs's world?

    >>
    >> After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
    >> of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.

    >
    > You mean, after a search through your underwear and with you sticking
    > your head in the sand and refusing to see the answer spoon fed to you,
    > YOU haven't come up with the answer.
    >
    > Hint: the answer isn't in the sand, nor is it in your underwear.


    Why is he doing this search trying to figure this all out ?
    Did he not say he knows all when it comes to apple ?

    The ofturd quote: Thanks for playing.




  12. #27
    Snit
    Guest

    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> stated in post
    [email protected] on 12/2/07 6:36 PM:

    > In article <C378A06B.9C06C%[email protected]>,
    > Snit <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>> After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
    >>> of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.

    >>
    >> He did not want Jobs to see the famous Xerox tour... and would only do so if
    >> under "orders". Atkinson has described that tour as an inspiration and as
    >> something that helped them know they were already on the right track. Jobs
    >> and company understood the importance of the graphical system far better
    >> than did the Xerox management.

    >
    > close.
    >
    > Anyway, Jobs and company saw nothing BUT the GUI, and completely missed
    > the significance of the network and the printing. COMPLETELY.


    And yet Apple was very early in the home networking environment (did
    *anyone* beat them to that... think of the old PhoneNet adapters) and they
    pretty much created the desktop publishing industry.
    >
    > Jobs was so blind, it wasn't funny.


    Support?


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  13. #28
    CozmicDebris
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    O x f o r d <[email protected]> wrote in news:iphone-
    [email protected]:

    > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
    >> in Steve Jobs's world?

    >
    > After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
    > of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.


    That's not true, tard boy. Many of us know the answer.





  14. #29
    CozmicDebris
    Guest

    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    O x f o r d <[email protected]> wrote in news:iphone-
    [email protected]:

    > DTC <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WdS4TscWH8

    >>
    >> What point were you trying to prove.
    >>
    >> All that video shows is a dream list of vaporware.

    >
    > not sure what you mean, apple has every portion in place except for the
    > foldable screen and a bit of AI.


    And it is vaporware.

    >
    > wireless is there, www is there, built in camera is there, voice rec is
    > there, multi-touch screen is there, ichat is there.
    >
    > and apple/sj popularized it all...



    Sorry, stupid. Apple did not popularize wireless, www, cameras, voice
    recording or chat.





  15. #30
    David Friedman
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    Re: Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > O x f o r d <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > > Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
    > > > in Steve Jobs's world?

    > >
    > > After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
    > > of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.

    >
    > You mean, after a search through your underwear and with you sticking
    > your head in the sand and refusing to see the answer spoon fed to you,
    > YOU haven't come up with the answer.
    >
    > Hint: the answer isn't in the sand, nor is it in your underwear.


    Wikipedia entry:

    Adele Goldberg (born July 22, 1945) is a computer scientist who wrote or
    co-wrote books on the programming language Smalltalk-80. In the 1970's
    she worked for Xerox's PARC laboratory on the Xerox Alto. She refused to
    give Steve Jobs a tour of the laboratory unless her superiors would
    order her to, which they eventually did.

    She is currently working for Neometron, Inc., of Palo Alto, California.
    Goldberg was born in Cleveland, Ohio, and grew up in Chicago, Illinois.
    In 1994 she was inducted as a Fellow of the Association for Computing
    Machinery.

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