iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!

"Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > the most affluent university town in the midwest, and smallest town in
> > the world that has it's own apple store, that's enough info.
>
> No, it's not - it's you dodging a direct question - again.

i gave you the facts, but if you aren't smart enough to decipher them,
it's not my problem.

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"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> George <[email protected]> wrote:
>snip://blogs.computerworld.com/wimax_option_for_macbook_and_macbook_pros
>
> my area is getting free public wimax, so everyone is gearing up...

Again, what is your area?

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > the most affluent university town in the midwest, and smallest town in
>> > the world that has it's own apple store, that's enough info.
>>
>> No, it's not - it's you dodging a direct question - again.
>
> i gave you the facts, but if you aren't smart enough to decipher them,
> it's not my problem.

No, you dodged the question - and continue to be as obtuse as possible.

And, I was born and raised very close to where you think I'm not "smart enough
to decipher"

And I call bull **** - based on the (actual) facts and personal knowledge.

The median income for a household in the city was $51,056, and the median
income for a family was $65,861. FAR from "most affluent". And, it isn't really a
"University Town" either...

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > the most affluent university town in the midwest, and smallest town
>> > in
>> > the world that has it's own apple store, that's enough info.
>>
>> No, it's not - it's you dodging a direct question - again.
>
> i gave you the facts, but if you aren't smart enough to decipher them,
> it's not my problem.

Why not just answer the question directly and stop the riddles? I live
in Honolulu, HI right near Koko Head. What city do you live in?

Oxford wrote:
> George <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Alas, free Wi-Fi is shrinking too. They just shut down the Metro-Fi
>>> system in my area last week. Metro-Fi could be a case study in bad
>>> marketing and unrealistic expectations.
>>>
>>> If you know where to go, you can still find free Wi-Fi networks at many
>>> restaurants and public areas, but the dream of ubiquitous free Wi-Fi is
>>> dead for now.
>> But wait, didn't "oxford" claim it was a simple matter to convert
>> existing analog TV *transmitters* to WiMAX?
>
> we'll see george, the wimax rollout is just getting started... the cards
> are now ready for the MacBook / MacBook Pros
>
> http://blogs.computerworld.com/wimax...d_macbook_pros
>
> my area is getting free public wimax, so everyone is gearing up...

But you are totally wrong. You explicitly said "WiFi is everywhere".
That means now. Not next week, next year, "is getting", the "easy TV to
WiMAX conversion" you don't understand or any other permutation.

Dutch wrote:

<snip>

> I'm not familiar with Metro-Fi. Was it an ad based service?

Yes, but they offered an ad-free version for a fee. It was very easy to
eliminate the ads. Their initial version had an ad banner, but if you
used VPN the ad banner disappeared. The second version used Microsoft
SideGuide, a horrible piece of malware, but fortunately by making
Metro-Fi think your system was a Linux or OS-X system (no version of
SideGuide), you got rid of the ads (using User Agent Switcher on Mozilla).

When they started out, they claimed that you had to have one of their
wireless cards, but in reality you didn't. However this turned off a lot
of potential users. It was also very slow, well under 1 Mb/s.

"http://www.metrofi.com/" but it's gone from the Bay Area, not sure
about the other cities listed.

> Other than at campgrounds that offer it for free, I rarely use WiFi
> except from my own secured routers, but I have heard some rumblings
> among the RV set about there being fewer locations available to us. I
> don't know if that's because of locations shutting down, or because
> they're going to paid subscription models though.

There seem to be plenty of restaurants and lower end hotels that still
have it, though the legality of using it if you're not a customer is in
question. Also most libraries seem to have it around here.

SMS wrote:

> Dutch wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I'm not familiar with Metro-Fi. Was it an ad based service?
>
> Yes, but they offered an ad-free version for a fee. It was very easy to
> eliminate the ads. Their initial version had an ad banner, but if you
> used VPN the ad banner disappeared. The second version used Microsoft
> SideGuide, a horrible piece of malware, but fortunately by making
> Metro-Fi think your system was a Linux or OS-X system (no version of
> SideGuide), you got rid of the ads (using User Agent Switcher on Mozilla).
>
> When they started out, they claimed that you had to have one of their
> wireless cards, but in reality you didn't. However this turned off a lot
> of potential users. It was also very slow, well under 1 Mb/s.
>
> "http://www.metrofi.com/" but it's gone from the Bay Area, not sure
> about the other cities listed.

Ahh, ok, thanks for clearing that up for me. They don't seem to have
made it to Upstate NY yet, according to their list.

>> Other than at campgrounds that offer it for free, I rarely use WiFi
>> except from my own secured routers, but I have heard some rumblings
>> among the RV set about there being fewer locations available to us. I
>> don't know if that's because of locations shutting down, or because
>> they're going to paid subscription models though.
>
> There seem to be plenty of restaurants and lower end hotels that still
> have it, though the legality of using it if you're not a customer is in
> question. Also most libraries seem to have it around here.

Yep, they're out there if you go looking, but they're certainly not as
"everywhere" as cell phone data coverage... :-)

--
Dutch
Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008

"Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> No, it's not - it's you dodging a direct question - again.
> >
> > i gave you the facts, but if you aren't smart enough to decipher them,
> > it's not my problem.
>
> No, you dodged the question - and continue to be as obtuse as possible.

nope, i'm simply determining how smart you are, and you are failing my
test.

> And, I was born and raised very close to where you think I'm not "smart
> enough
> to decipher"
>
> And I call bull **** - based on the (actual) facts and personal knowledge.
>
> The median income for a household in the city was $51,056, and the median
> income for a family was $65,861. FAR from "most affluent". And, it isn't
> really a
> "University Town" either...

do you need a cheat sheet?

i guess so...

http://www.apple.com/retail/storelist/

"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > i said: "in more advanced areas"
> >
> > learn to read.
>
> OK, I can read. Please name the "advanced area" you live in and some
> other places you put in that category.

just look for high population densities of macs, then you'll quickly see
what i'm talking about... and see the future of communications.

apple users always point the forward direction for society, so it's easy
once you know that fact.

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > i said: "in more advanced areas"
>> >
>> > learn to read.
>>
>> OK, I can read. Please name the "advanced area" you live in and some
>> other places you put in that category.
>
> just look for high population densities of macs, then you'll quickly
> see
> what i'm talking about... and see the future of communications.
>
> apple users always point the forward direction for society, so it's
> easy
> once you know that fact.

So, in other words, as always, you refuse to provide a simple
straightforward answer to even the simplest question: what city do live
in? It's a question that couldn't possibly jeopardize your security if
it's as big a community as you claim it to be. If you won't engage in a
straightforward conversation stop wasting everyone's time and go hang
out on an Apple fanboi page where you'll be welcomed.