Norvergence - new VoIP/ATM & cellular provider

has anyone else - either landline or wireless -
had a sales call, presentation, or actually implemented
services & billing from http://www.norvergence.com ?
It looks like they are carrying traffic via VoIP or ATM,
but the weird part is the claim about wireless -

Their website had ZERO real information about the services,
how they are implemented, and all the rest of the hard questions -

Phil -

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I don't know much about their technology. But I actually interviewed
with them to work in their sales dept.

I ran away as fast as I could after I saw what a scam they are. Stay
away. If you want something from them, why not get it directly from
Nortel?


"Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> has anyone else - either landline or wireless -
> had a sales call, presentation, or actually implemented
> services & billing from http://www.norvergence.com ?
> It looks like they are carrying traffic via VoIP or ATM,
> but the weird part is the claim about wireless -
>
> Their website had ZERO real information about the services,
> how they are implemented, and all the rest of the hard questions -
>
> Phil -
>
>
>

[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

What was the sales interview like,
and the red flags for you concerning Norvergence ?
Like I originally mentioned - I have never seen a tech company
that was not beating it's chest with tech diagranms, networking clouds,
and other wow stuff - with these folks - nothing -
As a technical trainer & networking systems person,
I always say.... if you can't draw me a diagram, it ain't gonna happen -
Phil

<B Reynolds> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I don't know much about their technology. But I actually interviewed
> with them to work in their sales dept.
>
> I ran away as fast as I could after I saw what a scam they are. Stay
> away. If you want something from them, why not get it directly from
> Nortel?
>
>
> "Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > has anyone else - either landline or wireless -
> > had a sales call, presentation, or actually implemented
> > services & billing from http://www.norvergence.com ?
> > It looks like they are carrying traffic via VoIP or ATM,
> > but the weird part is the claim about wireless -
> >
> > Their website had ZERO real information about the services,
> > how they are implemented, and all the rest of the hard questions -
> >
> > Phil -
> >
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

What was the sales interview like,
and the red flags for you concerning Norvergence ?
Like I originally mentioned - I have never seen a tech company
that was not beating it's chest with tech diagranms, networking clouds,
and other wow stuff - with these folks - nothing -
As a technical trainer & networking systems person,
I always say.... if you can't draw me a diagram, it ain't gonna happen -
Phil

<B Reynolds> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I don't know much about their technology. But I actually interviewed
> with them to work in their sales dept.
>
> I ran away as fast as I could after I saw what a scam they are. Stay
> away. If you want something from them, why not get it directly from
> Nortel?
>
>
> "Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > has anyone else - either landline or wireless -
> > had a sales call, presentation, or actually implemented
> > services & billing from http://www.norvergence.com ?
> > It looks like they are carrying traffic via VoIP or ATM,
> > but the weird part is the claim about wireless -
> >
> > Their website had ZERO real information about the services,
> > how they are implemented, and all the rest of the hard questions -
> >
> > Phil -
> >
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:50:58 -0500, "Phil Schuman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>has anyone else - either landline or wireless -
>had a sales call, presentation, or actually implemented
>services & billing from http://www.norvergence.com ?
>It looks like they are carrying traffic via VoIP or ATM,
>but the weird part is the claim about wireless -

There's been quite a bit of discussion about them in the forums on
dslreports.com.

From what others have posted, the technology they are using is sound
enough (other CLECs, including some I am extremely familiar with, use
similar technology), but their pricing model -- and their even
mentioning wireless -- is not.

-SC
--
Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/
....
"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might
be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune

They skipped out on 2 meetings at my comp. After 2 no shows, they are not
getting our money. Sorry "Your Screening Manager, Harry Lambert". Your
loss.









On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 17:50:58 -0700, Phil Schuman wrote:

> has anyone else - either landline or wireless - had a sales call,
> presentation, or actually implemented services & billing from
> http://www.norvergence.com ? It looks like they are carrying traffic
> via VoIP or ATM, but the weird part is the claim about wireless -
>
> Their website had ZERO real information about the services, how they are
> implemented, and all the rest of the hard questions -
>
> Phil -

In article <[email protected]>,
Eddie <[email protected]> wrote:

> They skipped out on 2 meetings at my comp. After 2 no shows, they are not
> getting our money. Sorry "Your Screening Manager, Harry Lambert". Your
> loss.
>
>
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 17:50:58 -0700, Phil Schuman wrote:
>
> > has anyone else - either landline or wireless - had a sales call,
> > presentation, or actually implemented services & billing from
> > http://www.norvergence.com ? It looks like they are carrying traffic
> > via VoIP or ATM, but the weird part is the claim about wireless -
> >
> > Their website had ZERO real information about the services, how they are
> > implemented, and all the rest of the hard questions -
> >

Many larger companies save big when they have major offices in distant
cities by using VoIP, instead of Telco for one office to talk to another
(i.e. Chicago and Detroit).