Mobile IP calling

Guys,

I thought i knew a lot about mobiles - but try solving this one!

I just got myself a dual sim card from a company called 'simore'. On
this dual sim card there is an option for making an 'IP call', and the
card itself has got 3 pre-configured Gateways on it (I cant see what
the gateway values are, but apparently i can change them to my own
values if i want).

Apparently i can route a normal mobile call through these IP gateways
and save a bucket of money when making calls from International
destinations - thus bypassing the rip off charges we usually get.

I've tried calling my landline using the IP call thing on my PAYG
orange phone, and it certainly works. My question is, can anyone
suggest what is going on ? Are we using a WAP connection and being
charged for WAP minutes. Admittedly i could just check my PAYG balance
after 2 minutes worth of calls..but i'm thinking if i can use free WAP
minutes on another contract to get totally free calls (i know i'm
dreaming..)

Anyway folks, can anyone contribute to help clarify this?

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[email protected] wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I thought i knew a lot about mobiles - but try solving this one!
>
> I just got myself a dual sim card from a company called 'simore'. On
> this dual sim card there is an option for making an 'IP call', and the
> card itself has got 3 pre-configured Gateways on it (I cant see what
> the gateway values are, but apparently i can change them to my own
> values if i want).
>
> Apparently i can route a normal mobile call through these IP gateways
> and save a bucket of money when making calls from International
> destinations - thus bypassing the rip off charges we usually get.
>
> I've tried calling my landline using the IP call thing on my PAYG
> orange phone, and it certainly works. My question is, can anyone
> suggest what is going on ? Are we using a WAP connection and being
> charged for WAP minutes. Admittedly i could just check my PAYG balance
> after 2 minutes worth of calls..but i'm thinking if i can use free WAP
> minutes on another contract to get totally free calls (i know i'm
> dreaming..)
>
> Anyway folks, can anyone contribute to help clarify this?

This would certainly be possible, but not as simply as you suggest. If
you've used it, you have more chance of seeing what is happening than
anyone else.

I would think that you would make VoIP calls from a phone set up to do
so, with client software installed and account details entered, and
logged in to either bluetooth or wifi networks or over wap/grps, so it
would be surprising if this spontaneously works without any input from
you and gives you free calls.

> I would think that you would make VoIP calls from a phone set up to do
> so, with client software installed and account details entered, and
> logged in to either bluetooth or wifi networks or over wap/grps, so it
> would be surprising if this spontaneously works without any input from
> you and gives you free calls.

Well, i think some default account details are pre-installed into the
dual sim card, although i never requested anything and im not being
charged for any such account. Also, the phone is definately not using
bluetooth or WIFI - so it seems only WAP/GPRS is the only option.
Would be interested to hear other people opinions..

On 6 Nov 2006 06:14:45 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>
>
>> I would think that you would make VoIP calls from a phone set up to do
>> so, with client software installed and account details entered, and
>> logged in to either bluetooth or wifi networks or over wap/grps, so it
>> would be surprising if this spontaneously works without any input from
>> you and gives you free calls.
>
>Well, i think some default account details are pre-installed into the
>dual sim card, although i never requested anything and im not being
>charged for any such account. Also, the phone is definately not using
>bluetooth or WIFI - so it seems only WAP/GPRS is the only option.
>Would be interested to hear other people opinions..

I wouldn't have thought wap/gprs offered enough bandwidth to make
intelligible VOIP calls
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Regards

John [Essex, UK]
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On 6 Nov 2006 05:35:14 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>I've tried calling my landline using the IP call thing on my PAYG
>orange phone, and it certainly works.

I very much doubt that you could make a VOIP call over GPRS. It won't
be WAP - that's a protocol for displaying pages, but it normally runs
on top of GPRS and is sometimes charged more cheaply.

In my experience, GSM 3G is not fast enough for VOIP, though it is
nearly good enough for Skype. To make a voip call you really need a 3G
connection, but you don't get unmetered 3G GPRS on Orange PAYG.

I suggest you check your balance carefully, because this could end up
being very expensive one way or another.

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http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
Browse now while stocks last!

http://groups.google.it/group/uk.tel...b16a5817f4dd9f

very good idea

"[email protected] дµÀ£º
"
> On 6 Nov 2006 05:35:14 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >I've tried calling my landline using the IP call thing on my PAYG
> >orange phone, and it certainly works.
>
> I very much doubt that you could make a VOIP call over GPRS. It won't
> be WAP - that's a protocol for displaying pages, but it normally runs
> on top of GPRS and is sometimes charged more cheaply.
>
> In my experience, GSM 3G is not fast enough for VOIP, though it is
> nearly good enough for Skype. To make a voip call you really need a 3G
> connection, but you don't get unmetered 3G GPRS on Orange PAYG.
>
> I suggest you check your balance carefully, because this could end up
> being very expensive one way or another.
>
> --
>
> Iain
> the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones
> http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
> Browse now while stocks last!

http://groups.google.it/group/uk.tel...b16a5817f4dd9f

very good idea

"[email protected] дµÀ£º
"
> On 6 Nov 2006 05:35:14 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >I've tried calling my landline using the IP call thing on my PAYG
> >orange phone, and it certainly works.
>
> I very much doubt that you could make a VOIP call over GPRS. It won't
> be WAP - that's a protocol for displaying pages, but it normally runs
> on top of GPRS and is sometimes charged more cheaply.
>
> In my experience, GSM 3G is not fast enough for VOIP, though it is
> nearly good enough for Skype. To make a voip call you really need a 3G
> connection, but you don't get unmetered 3G GPRS on Orange PAYG.
>
> I suggest you check your balance carefully, because this could end up
> being very expensive one way or another.
>
> --
>
> Iain
> the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones
> http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
> Browse now while stocks last!

"[email protected] дµÀ£º
"
> On 6 Nov 2006 05:35:14 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >I've tried calling my landline using the IP call thing on my PAYG
> >orange phone, and it certainly works.
>
> I very much doubt that you could make a VOIP call over GPRS. It won't
> be WAP - that's a protocol for displaying pages, but it normally runs
> on top of GPRS and is sometimes charged more cheaply.
>
> In my experience, GSM 3G is not fast enough for VOIP, though it is
> nearly good enough for Skype. To make a voip call you really need a 3G
> connection, but you don't get unmetered 3G GPRS on Orange PAYG.
>
> I suggest you check your balance carefully, because this could end up
> being very expensive one way or another.
>
> --
>
> Iain
> the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones
> http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
> Browse now while stocks last!

http://bbs.shensun.com/

"[email protected] дµÀ£º
"
> On 6 Nov 2006 05:35:14 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >I've tried calling my landline using the IP call thing on my PAYG
> >orange phone, and it certainly works.
>
> I very much doubt that you could make a VOIP call over GPRS. It won't
> be WAP - that's a protocol for displaying pages, but it normally runs
> on top of GPRS and is sometimes charged more cheaply.
>
> In my experience, GSM 3G is not fast enough for VOIP, though it is
> nearly good enough for Skype. To make a voip call you really need a 3G
> connection, but you don't get unmetered 3G GPRS on Orange PAYG.
>
> I suggest you check your balance carefully, because this could end up
> being very expensive one way or another.
>
> --
>
> Iain
> the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones
> http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
> Browse now while stocks last!

[email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
> http://bbs

An empty forum. How useful.
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Regards
Jon

On 14 Nov 2006 21:02:49 -0800, "dual sim card" <[email protected]>
spammed:

>http://groups.google.it/group/uk.tel...b16a5817f4dd9f
>
>very good idea

No, it's a ****ty, useless idea. A dual sim in nothing like as useful
as two phones. It is also inconvenient and unreliable.

I would appreciate it if you didn't use anything I write here as an
excuse to spam the newsgroup.

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Iain
the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones
http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
Browse now while stocks last!

very good idea , contact me . msn :[email protected] .

same idea .

"[email protected] дµÀ£º
"
> Guys,
>
> I thought i knew a lot about mobiles - but try solving this one!
>
> I just got myself a dual sim card from a company called 'simore'. On
> this dual sim card there is an option for making an 'IP call', and the
> card itself has got 3 pre-configured Gateways on it (I cant see what
> the gateway values are, but apparently i can change them to my own
> values if i want).
>
> Apparently i can route a normal mobile call through these IP gateways
> and save a bucket of money when making calls from International
> destinations - thus bypassing the rip off charges we usually get.
>
> I've tried calling my landline using the IP call thing on my PAYG
> orange phone, and it certainly works. My question is, can anyone
> suggest what is going on ? Are we using a WAP connection and being
> charged for WAP minutes. Admittedly i could just check my PAYG balance
> after 2 minutes worth of calls..but i'm thinking if i can use free WAP
> minutes on another contract to get totally free calls (i know i'm
> dreaming..)
>
> Anyway folks, can anyone contribute to help clarify this?

not empty , we will get togethter the question and answer about the
dual sim card or twincard .

you can help me and finished the working .

"Jon дµÀ£º
"
> [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
> > http://bbs
>
> An empty forum. How useful.
> --
> Regards
> Jon

[email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
> not empty , we will get togethter the question and answer about the
> dual sim card or twincard .
>
> you can help me and finished the working .

Thanks for the offer but I'm busy for the rest of my life.
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Regards
Jon