V3c vs. V3m

Ok so I just saw on Verizon's site that the V3m is free now with new every 2. This is a 2 part question. I just got the Vc3 a week ago, so since I'm still within the 2 weeks, is it possible to take that back, and get the V3m in exchange (ie, don't pay anything)? and if it is, is it worth it? and by that I mean, what does it offer besides the mini sd slot? Does the multimedia transfers work in MPT, or is everything as locked up as with the Vc3? Does the "m" have better battery life, speed, anything? Thanks, sorry for all the questions in one thread.

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Verizon will have disabled any compatibility with MPT in their firmware, jsut as they have with the V3c. The "m" simply refers to that model's ability to play music, by that I mean, more than just what you can load into the 32MB of internal flash memory.

The biggest difference between the "c" and the "m" is the removable memory. Other than that, from what I have been able to discern, there is no difference. Basically, unless you plan to use your phone as an MP3 player, stick with what you've got.

Hope that helps.

The latest news is that V3c is now allowed to MPT. This is fact as I have inquired, comfirmed and have been using the features for about a month now.

V3m will provide removable memory, and will now be compatable with e815 usability. Lastly if you are not aware you can also use the V3c or M as a Broadband modem connected to a PC.

RAZR V3c 53 x 98 x 14.5 mm Polyphonic and MP3 ringtones up to approximately 188 minutes 99 g up to approximately 200 hours

RAZR V3m 53 x 98 x 14.5 mm MP3, AAC & Polyphonic Ring Tones, VibraCall™ Alert up to approximately 188 minutes 99 grams up to approximately 200 hours plus Removable memory

FYI>This is direct from Motorola's web site.

Originally Posted by SLANDERED

The latest news is that V3c is now allowed to MPT. This is fact as I have inquired, comfirmed and have been using the features for about a month now.

If you are referring to that fact that you can view your contacts and your calendar, then yes I am aware of that. I asking mostly about the multimedia part where I can transfer pictures and sound to and from my phone via usb.

Thanks for the info.

Nope..I am directly speaking about Images and such. Inquire directly #611 and you will be directed on how to enable it. In my experiance I had to bring my cell into the Verizon store for an upgrade flash. *228 and then redetect the cell and select CDMA and Divice v3cm...now have access to mobile data transfer, Internet, email and Calender. (Full functions)

Originally Posted by SLANDERED

Nope..I am directly speaking about Images and such. Inquire directly #611 and you will be directed on how to enable it. In my experiance I had to bring my cell into the Verizon store for an upgrade flash. *228 and then redetect the cell and select CDMA and Divice v3cm...now have access to mobile data transfer, Internet, email and Calender. (Full functions)

First of all, Verizon will not be able to tell you how to enable your phone to use MPT, because OBEX was completely removed from firmware version .03, and the latest version .04 is only a patch to correct some minor issues. Suffice it to say, only those phones running version .02 can use MPT to upload pics and ringtones.

Second, MPT has absolutely nothing to do with phone firmware upgrades. also, *228, as discussed in another thread, only updates roaming capabilities and activates your phone on new towers. In no way should you believe that *228 will upgrade your phone's firmware. You will still have to take it into a Verizon service center to get the latest flash upgrades (though, if you have version .02, I wouldn't jeopardize your ability to use MPT).

Verizon is very good at marketing, they do not want you to put yourown pics and ringtones on your phone. Instead, they want you to use Get It Now and pay them up to $2.50 per item.

Originally Posted by SLANDERED

The latest news is that V3c is now allowed to MPT. This is fact as I have inquired, comfirmed and have been using the features for about a month now.

I would be very interested to know where you are getting your news about MPT. My wife's Pink Razr is running version .04, and I can not get it to work with MPT, no matter what I try. My Razr is running version .02, and I use MPT every day. Perhaps you can share with us how you enabled your phone, if you are running version .03 or .04 on your phone.

Originally Posted by SLANDERED

RAZR V3c 53 x 98 x 14.5 mm Polyphonic and MP3 ringtones up to approximately 188 minutes 99 g up to approximately 200 hours

RAZR V3m 53 x 98 x 14.5 mm MP3, AAC & Polyphonic Ring Tones, VibraCall™ Alert up to approximately 188 minutes 99 grams up to approximately 200 hours plus Removable memory

FYI>This is direct from Motorola's web site.

Be careful about buying a phone based on what the manufacturer says about it. Verizon uses their own firmware in their phones which disables features that they do not want to make available to customers.

Case in point, the V3c available from AllTel and other CDMA providers has the vibe then ring alert, however the V3c from Verizon does not. Same phone, same manufacturer, different features...hmmmm...

"I would be very interested to know where you are getting your news about MPT"

Verizon Wireless Data support, Any Verizon wireless store will know about the upgrade. Dial 611 and talk to v3c Support specialist.

paulcman Verizon will have disabled any compatibility with MPT in their firmwareNot true..It's no longer blocked case in point the Multimedia..V3c does not do Music but e815 can, v3c can not do data transfer e815 can, v3m can do data transfer.., jsut as they have with the V3c. The "m" simply refers to that model's ability to play music, by that I mean, more than just what you can load into the 32MB of internal flash memory. it's 23 megs of user internal memory, 7 is allocated to programing

The biggest difference between the "c" and the "m" is the removable memory. I agree..however the v3m also has the ability to act as an mp3 player, for some that plus the memory is key.Other than that, from what I have been able to discern, there is no difference. Basically, unless you plan to use your phone as an MP3 player, stick with what you've got.since you just got the phone run back and get the new one if you want to keep the valur in the phone. in 6 month's the new "m" will have better value.

"because OBEX was completely removed from firmware version .03"
Partically correct..it will work with out issue but you have to configure MPT as if you have a cingular phone..Yepper that also allows connection but not bluetooth only with the OEM cable.

"Second, MPT has absolutely nothing to do with phone firmware upgrades. also, *228, as discussed in another thread, only updates roaming capabilities and activates your phone on new towers. In no way should you believe that *228 will upgrade your phone's firmware.I said "take the phone for a firmware upgrade and then it is necessary to preform a *228 and you are ready to go. In no way did I infer that a *228 upgrades the firmware. You will still have to take it into a Verizon service center to get the latest flash upgrades (though, if you have version .02, I wouldn't jeopardize your ability to use MPT).


Go to Verizon store and get the FlashS/w versionGATW_01.15.04
from home new phone, pick: Motorola CDMA and v3cm

You will then find all of the functions work.

Ok I'm having some issues here. First off I did talk to a person at *611, and although it didn't sound like she knew what motorola phone tools was, she suggested I take the phone in and get it flashed, similar to what slandered said, and it would work. But you just mentioned that the S/W is 01.15.04, which is exactly what my phone already is (its only a week old). So I booted up motorola phone tools version 4.2.1a, and it wants to auto detect my phone every time, and I can't seem to change it to v3cm like you said. Any other suggestions here?

Try this..
Unplug the phone...
Launch the MPT and Select "New profile" call it "v3cm"
Step Two, ...Click "ok", then wait for the application setup to to finish.
Step Three....Installing Motorola Phone tools.."Phone setup"
Step Four......Plug the phone in with the OEM cable..
Step Five...Phone Setup has not detected your phone..do you want to manually install your phone? "Yes"

Follow the instructions..
"Welcome To the divice wizard"
Click "Next"..Select "Motorola USB Modem"(Can be #2 or #3 if you have other modems installed"
After selecting the modem, Select [COLOR='blue"] "Next" [/COLOR]then select the box "do not automatically detect the driver, select from a list"
Select Motorola CDMA for the Divice Manufacturer and then from the Device Model: Select "V3cm", Click finish...The MPT utility should appear and then you will see 6 Icons. Click Multimedia Studio to access the data on the phone.

Good luck. I just preformed this while writing down the methood. It works..

Ok here's where I'm having issues. I launch MPT and create a new profile. Then it brings me to a screen where it wants me to select cable, bluetooth, or infared. At this point I plug in my usb cable, and click next, where it detects my phone, and windows installs it, etc. So basically I never get to the device wizard. I've tried this a couple different times, changing times when I plug the usb in or take it out, and cannot get it to "manually install my phone".

I can go to window's device manager and reinstall the driver for the mot modem #2, but I never get a screen where I can select the mot CDMA. The only thing I can select is mot modem. Thanks for the help so far, but I'm still lost!

Ok this almost seems like a windows issue now. Without actually plugging the phone in, I can get the mot CMDA 1x installed, but then when I open MPT, it doesn't see the v3cm. so i plug my phone in, and it tries to install it instead of using the current v3cmda that i installed. basically it seems like i need to trick windows into using the V3 CMDA drivers with my V3c, but I can't!

What Version..MPT? I have 4.0.4.b 12-01-2005