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  • 12-10-2007, 12:03 AM
    Tim Smith
    On 2007-12-05, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Kurt <[email protected]> wrote in news:labolide-
    > [email protected]:
    >
    >> The N800 weighs half a pound and is twice the size.
    >> No comparison.

    ....
    > Size N800
    >
    > * Weight: 206 g (206-135=71g heavier)
    > * Length: 75 mm (75mm-61mm=14mm longer)
    > * Width: 144 mm (144mm-115mm=29mm wider)
    > * Thickness: 13 (/18) mm (18-11.6=6.4mm thicker)
    >
    > Size and weight iPhone
    >
    > * Height: 4.5 inches (115 mm)
    > * Width: 2.4 inches (61 mm)
    > * Depth: 0.46 inch (11.6 mm)
    > * Weight: 4.8 ounces (135 grams)
    >
    > Not anywhere near double in size. Real speakers and a changeable


    1.68 times the size.
  • 12-06-2007, 10:44 AM
    Kurt
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Kurt <[email protected]> wrote in news:labolide-
    > [email protected]:
    >
    > > Exactly. I saw the N800 and saw large device that does a whole

    > lotta
    > > stuff I'll never need. Never been a fan of 3rd party apps the

    > way they
    > > wreaked hovoc on my Treo. Aside from the techies (like all you

    > guys) I
    > > think most of the world want a device that is small, works fast

    > and has
    > > a good amount of functionality.

    >
    > The functionality comes from the apps, not from the hardware
    > companies. If you wanted an pocket webTV appliance, I suppose
    > you did the right thing. I just can't imagine using something as
    > big as the iPhone for a PHONE, though. It's too big for a phone
    > and every time I see someone using it, as soon as they hang up,
    > they go into this polishing routine to get their face off it with
    > the "cleaning cloth" I think it comes with.


    I use Invisible Shield (similar coating they use on helicoptor rotors),
    no smudges. Can't imagine what you mean about it being big, it's smaller
    than my Treo was. Fits in my front pants pocket, flat.
    No goofy holsters.


    >
    > > I can't imagine navigating around the N800 being any easier

    > than the
    > > iPhone. The N800 looks potentially like a great travel

    > replacement for
    > > a laptop, but having to add hardware on to get it more like one

    > makes me
    > > prefer a small laptop. Waiting to see what Apple unveils in

    > January.
    > >

    >
    > To navigate around the web browser you click the icon in the
    > upper left corner of its desktop. Pick your favorite from the
    > list, just like Iphone sliding your greasy fingers over the
    > window if you don't like the clean stylus that doesn't need
    > Windex after use. The browser opens and loads the WHOLE webpage,
    > not some "custom" piece of it. The + and - buttons magnify the
    > display up to 320% if you want it bigger. It scrolls many
    > ways...with the scroll button, dragging your greasy finger or
    > stylus over the display, or using the same dragbars any PC or Mac
    > uses with stylus or your BT mouse if you want one. Other than
    > the touchscreen, it works just like any PC. The center button on
    > top of it toggles full screen if you like. Full screen leaves
    > the URL line at the bottom with the useful controls, including
    > the favorites on the lower left. It's nothing special, which is
    > its point. Click the URL with the stylus brings up the stylus
    > keyboard. Click it with your finger fills the screen with a
    > BIGGER-than-iphone finger keyboard for easy typing, unless you
    > have a BT keyboard attached which supercedes the screen keyboards
    > automatically.
    >
    > Let's face reality, NONE of the tablets, including the N810 with
    > slideout keyboard, are anything you want to type this message on.
    > But, with the Nokias, the BT keyboard, after a little adjustment
    > for the 3 to 4 use keys, gives you your laptop keyboard back WHEN
    > YOU WANT IT....not continuously like the laptop when you don't
    > need it. Again, N800 has a choice. I don't like the N810
    > slideout keyboard any more than the one on the Sony pocket PC or
    > any PDA...They just don't fit a typist, at all. I wanted a real
    > keyboard the day I got it. I'm a typist.
    >

    Now see, I wanted a phone that did web, email and contacts all easily
    synched with my desktop. To click virtually one button to get something
    is great. I wanted it small, but functional. iTunes is a nice bonus.

    iPhone keyboard is plenty big when you turn screen from portrait to
    landscape mode (Another great feature).

    I think the N800 is a great tablet, and good for those who do a lot of
    typing. It's also still kind of what you call "WebTV" just bigger, with
    more features.

    How do you carry yours around?

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  • 12-05-2007, 05:10 PM
    Kurt
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:

    > At 05 Dec 2007 12:51:38 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:
    >
    > > You'll have to excuse Kurt- his view of the world is somewhat skewed,
    > > due to the position of his head up the Apple corporate ass.

    >
    >
    > Personally, I find Kurt's positions quite reasonable. Unlike the Oxfords
    > of the world, Kurt doesn't pretend his iPhone is the be-all, end-all,
    > device for everyone, just that it's the best mobile device for HIS needs.
    >
    > Equally, I'd never suggest it isn't the right phone for him, despite the
    > fact it isn't for me.


    Exactly. I saw the N800 and saw large device that does a whole lotta
    stuff I'll never need. Never been a fan of 3rd party apps the way they
    wreaked hovoc on my Treo. Aside from the techies (like all you guys) I
    think most of the world want a device that is small, works fast and has
    a good amount of functionality.
    I can't imagine navigating around the N800 being any easier than the
    iPhone. The N800 looks potentially like a great travel replacement for
    a laptop, but having to add hardware on to get it more like one makes me
    prefer a small laptop. Waiting to see what Apple unveils in January.

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  • 12-05-2007, 02:22 PM
    Todd Allcock
    At 05 Dec 2007 12:51:38 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:

    > You'll have to excuse Kurt- his view of the world is somewhat skewed,
    > due to the position of his head up the Apple corporate ass.



    Personally, I find Kurt's positions quite reasonable. Unlike the Oxfords
    of the world, Kurt doesn't pretend his iPhone is the be-all, end-all,
    device for everyone, just that it's the best mobile device for HIS needs.

    Equally, I'd never suggest it isn't the right phone for him, despite the
    fact it isn't for me.


  • 12-05-2007, 01:36 PM
    Larry
    CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > You'll have to excuse Kurt- his view of the world is somewhat

    skewed,
    > due to the position of his head up the Apple corporate ass.
    >
    >


    He was usin' an Apple measuring stick on the N800...(c;

    Over at Best Buy, one of the Apple boys said, in reference to the
    N800 someone had asked me about, "It isn't a PDA, either."

    It was priceless. "Yes, er, ah, it is.", I smiled. Just the day
    before I had mounted the beta version of Garnet Virtual Palm OS
    Machine on it:
    http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/index.html
    adding another 30,000 or so more programs it can now run...or
    will very soon. VM is in beta and is free. I'm hoping they'll
    turn it 90 degrees to landscape mode so it fills the screen in
    the final release, but, functionally, it sync'd right up with my
    Palm Desktop and runs all the Palm software I had installed on my
    little Pilots, before. It syncs over the wifi or internet if
    you're "out" somewhere. You do have to tunnel it through the
    router's firewall, before you go. Paying SELLphone to sync it
    is, of course, unnecessary.

    It even made Palm Pilot noises during the demo on the stereo
    speakers in front.......PRICELESS...(c;

    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v
  • 12-05-2007, 12:51 PM
    CozmicDebris
    Larry <[email protected]> wrote in news:Xns99FD8836F2FBEnoonehomecom@
    208.49.80.253:

    > Kurt <[email protected]> wrote in news:labolide-
    > [email protected]:
    >
    >> The N800 weighs half a pound and is twice the size.
    >> No comparison.
    >>

    >
    > Hmm....You must have seen a different one....
    >
    > Size N800
    >
    > * Weight: 206 g (206-135=71g heavier)
    > * Length: 75 mm (75mm-61mm=14mm longer)
    > * Width: 144 mm (144mm-115mm=29mm wider)
    > * Thickness: 13 (/18) mm (18-11.6=6.4mm thicker)
    >
    > Size and weight iPhone
    >
    > * Height: 4.5 inches (115 mm)
    > * Width: 2.4 inches (61 mm)
    > * Depth: 0.46 inch (11.6 mm)
    > * Weight: 4.8 ounces (135 grams)
    >
    > Not anywhere near double in size. Real speakers and a changeable
    > battery and memory cards aren't THAT heavy...(c;
    >
    > Of course, mine weighs lots more if you consider all those
    > PROGRAMS and VIRTUAL PALM PILOT I've added to it....(c;
    >
    >
    > Larry


    You'll have to excuse Kurt- his view of the world is somewhat skewed, due
    to the position of his head up the Apple corporate ass.
  • 12-05-2007, 12:21 PM
    Larry
    Kurt <[email protected]> wrote in news:labolide-
    [email protected]:

    > The N800 weighs half a pound and is twice the size.
    > No comparison.
    >


    Hmm....You must have seen a different one....

    Size N800

    * Weight: 206 g (206-135=71g heavier)
    * Length: 75 mm (75mm-61mm=14mm longer)
    * Width: 144 mm (144mm-115mm=29mm wider)
    * Thickness: 13 (/18) mm (18-11.6=6.4mm thicker)

    Size and weight iPhone

    * Height: 4.5 inches (115 mm)
    * Width: 2.4 inches (61 mm)
    * Depth: 0.46 inch (11.6 mm)
    * Weight: 4.8 ounces (135 grams)

    Not anywhere near double in size. Real speakers and a changeable
    battery and memory cards aren't THAT heavy...(c;

    Of course, mine weighs lots more if you consider all those
    PROGRAMS and VIRTUAL PALM PILOT I've added to it....(c;


    Larry
    --
    All this doesn't really matter. I don't have to hold mine to my
    ear to talk on the phone....which looks really silly no matter
    how you spin it.

  • 12-05-2007, 10:23 AM
    Kurt
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:fj5jba
    > [email protected]:
    >
    > > Very impressive.
    > >

    >
    > Now, let's compare it with Opera 8 or Firefox's new tablet on an
    > 800 pixel wide, N800 screen.....(c;
    >
    > No comparison....
    >
    > Larry


    The N800 weighs half a pound and is twice the size.
    No comparison.

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  • 12-05-2007, 08:36 AM
    Larry
    Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:fj5jba
    [email protected]:

    > Very impressive.
    >


    Now, let's compare it with Opera 8 or Firefox's new tablet on an
    800 pixel wide, N800 screen.....(c;

    No comparison....

    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v
  • 12-05-2007, 01:13 AM
    Todd Allcock
    At 04 Dec 2007 21:52:38 +0000 Ron wrote:

    >

    http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...me=M&qpsp=106&
    qpmr=14&qpdt=1&qpct=0&sample=4
    >
    > In less than 6 months iPhone has surpassed all Windows Mobile devices
    > put together.


    Very impressive.

    That report says that more iPhones were used for _web browsing_ (i.e. hit
    more webpages) that WinMo-based phones, and acknowledges that it doesn't
    reflect sales of phones.


    The last sales figures I found posted for WinMo phones (from Gartner) were
    3.1 million in 1Q '07.


  • 12-04-2007, 09:38 PM
    Ron
    On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:58:01 -0800 (PST), 4phun <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On Dec 4, 4:52 pm, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...timeframe=M&qp...
    >>
    >> In less than 6 months iPhone has surpassed all Windows Mobile devices
    >> put together.

    >
    >Is this due to a better user interface? Larger screen?
    >What do you think caused the iPhone to surpass all Windows Mobile
    >devices?
    >
    >This news is also interesting because the iPhone is only found on the
    >AT&T network in the USA. Phones which use Windows Mobile are found on
    >every last one of them including AT&T.
    >
    >BTW did anyone notice the AT&T DSL network was down for nine hours for
    >some reason yesterday?.



    It was down in Bell South Territory. It was up without issue in SBC
    territory.
  • 12-04-2007, 06:07 PM
    Kevin Weaver

    "4phun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Dec 4, 4:52 pm, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...timeframe=M&qp...
    >>
    >> In less than 6 months iPhone has surpassed all Windows Mobile devices
    >> put together.

    >
    > Is this due to a better user interface? Larger screen?
    > What do you think caused the iPhone to surpass all Windows Mobile
    > devices?
    >
    > This news is also interesting because the iPhone is only found on the
    > AT&T network in the USA. Phones which use Windows Mobile are found on
    > every last one of them including AT&T.
    >
    > BTW did anyone notice the AT&T DSL network was down for nine hours for
    > some reason yesterday?.


    Your area, mine was up all day.

  • 12-04-2007, 03:52 PM
    Ron



    http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...pct=0&sample=4

    In less than 6 months iPhone has surpassed all Windows Mobile devices
    put together.

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