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  • 12-13-2007, 07:00 PM
    4phun
    Blackfriars' Marketing adds the following to the original data posted
    here

    iPhone EDGE browsing comparable to Nokia 3G Web


    There were a lot of readers who said I was nuts to claim that the
    iPhone's EDGE service was at all comparable to a real 3G experience on
    my Nokia E61i. Now MacDailyNews has uncovered data to show that I am
    not crazy. German Web site iPhone Infoblog videotaped both phones with
    WiFi turned off and raced the iPhone's EDGE service experience against
    a Nokia E61i using UMTS. The video, shown above, demonstrates that in
    fact, the two experiences are nearly identical in speed, largely
    because the iPhone's much faster processor and quicker rendering
    compensates for the E61i's multi-megabit UMTS bandwidth on real Web
    pages.

    This experiment demonstrates the power of mobile phone carrier
    marketing. The ideal business model is one where a vendor can bill for
    a service that people don't or can't actually use; ask anyone who owns
    a gym. Mobile phone carriers have been pushing multi-megabit 3G mobile
    phone services, knowing full well that most mobile phones actually
    can't keep up with them. And that's why data service for laptop 3G
    adaptors is so much more expensive than 3G mobile phone services.
    Laptops with multi-gigahertz processors actually use significant
    portions of 3G bandwidth, requiring mobile carriers to incur more
    provisioning costs to support those platforms.

    But it also proves that raw bandwidth isn't the be-all and end-all of
    a mobile Internet experience, just as my prior article claimed.
    Processor speed, memory capacity, battery life, latency, and cost all
    affect the consumer's experience in different ways. Good product
    design strikes a reasonable compromise among those constraints. Great
    product design creates user experiences that transcend them. And the
    iPhone appears to have done just that, despite its lack of 3G
    bandwidth.
  • 12-12-2007, 09:16 PM
    Todd Allcock
    At 12 Dec 2007 14:39:15 -0800 4phun wrote:
    > I found this neat bit of info about the iPhone hardware that continues
    > to blow all those non iPhones out of the water.
    >
    > http://www.tuaw.com/2007/12/11/youtu...wser-showdown/



    Ironically, I followed your link and just watched that video on my "blown
    out of the water" WinMo phone. Something neither the iPhone or Nokia shown
    in the video is capable of...


  • 12-12-2007, 06:56 PM
    Larry
    4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:e9c1b895-ea9e-4d96-
    [email protected]:

    > It's a mobile computing
    > platform,


    It is?? I musta missed something. I thought COMPUTERS were
    devices you installed SOFTWARE onto STORAGE to command the
    processor to do useful things, ON ITS OWN, whenever you wanted
    it.....not a SELLphone WebTV appliance you RENTED time on to do
    what you wanted through a WEB PAGE that made the appliance LOOK
    like it was a computer, when it was not.

    Did I miss something?

    How do I install Skype on it? I can install Skype on REAL
    computers, right? I don't have to PAY someone to run Skype for
    me and present me with a WEBPAGE that looks like I'm running
    Skype...on a real computer....just an example.

    I must admit it looks VERY sharp after these webpages are loaded
    onto it because IT'S NOT WHAT'S DOING THE COMPUTING!

    Larry
    --
    All the rest are just webpage appliances....
    ....exactly what SELLphone companies want you to own so they can
    RENT you webpages and access to make it do something.
  • 12-12-2007, 04:39 PM
    4phun
    I found this neat bit of info about the iPhone hardware that continues
    to blow all those non iPhones out of the water.

    http://www.tuaw.com/2007/12/11/youtu...wser-showdown/


    YouTube Find: Mobile browser showdown
    Yesterday, December 11, 2007, 10:00:00 PM | Nik Fletcher
    Filed under: Software, Steve Jobs, Apple, iPhone

    The iPhone's data connectivity is arguably the one thing that people
    begrudge. The device experience is fantastic, until you try and browse
    'the proper internet' via your mobile network. At this point, most are
    thinking "Why EDGE, Steve, Why?", and those who chose to plunk down
    the bills for another phone (N95 anyone?) grin smugly. But this
    smugness might be short-lived, for the folks at Blackfriars Marketing
    have stumbled across a German YouTube clip proving that the width of
    your 'tube' might not be the only deciding factor. In this case, it's
    the hardware used to process 'the proper internet'.

    Now you're probably thinking 'huh?' but let's put it this way: the
    iPhone's connectivity may be slower, but once the data is there, the
    hardware in the svelte enclosure gets the data in front of you faster
    than other handsets out there. The other browser in the video coughs
    and splutters whilst the limited hardware scrambles to show the
    content.

    So what does this really tell us that we already know? Yes, the iPhone
    OS is snappy and suave. Yes, the screen is simply stunning. And yes,
    desktop-class Mobile Safari means we can see the full internet. And
    yes, we'd love to see some 3G-love come to the iPhone (this video
    merely re-inforces that). But the video also reminds us of something
    that, in the face of iCriticism, gets quickly overlooked: the iPhone
    clearly isn't a mobile telephone platform. It's a mobile computing
    platform, and under the hood we've got a lot to be thankful for.
    http://www.blackfriarsinc.com/blog/2...-comparable-to



    Video and Nokia-fan-abating disclaimer after the break!

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