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  • 08-26-2011, 01:13 PM
    Rod Speed
    SMS wrote:
    > jcdill wrote
    >> SMS wrote


    >>> Well I don't know many besides myself, but it's definitely more than
    >>> one. With Google Voice being more widely deployed it's increasing.
    >>> The thing is you don't really know if it's a VOIP number you've
    >>> been given since there is nothing that would indicate it. So "how
    >>> many people do you know?" is really not the right question to ask.


    >> If it's someone you "know", you would know either because they talk with you about it, or you find the same number
    >> sometimes ringing thru to their home, sometimes ringing thru to their office,
    >> sometimes reaching them on their cell phone, etc. and you can tell (by the call quality) that you aren't just
    >> reaching them on their
    >> cell phone at 3 different locations.


    > That's the problem, the call quality is indistinguishable from the
    > call quality on a normal land line or cell phone. But to be fair, I
    > probably have never been on a VOIP to VOIP call,


    I have been, lots of times, essentially because calls between
    customers on my VSPs are free.

    > it's cell to VOIP or landline to VOIP.



  • 08-26-2011, 01:13 PM
    Rod Speed
    SMS wrote:
    > jcdill wrote
    >> SMS wrote


    >>> Well I don't know many besides myself, but it's definitely more than
    >>> one. With Google Voice being more widely deployed it's increasing.
    >>> The thing is you don't really know if it's a VOIP number you've
    >>> been given since there is nothing that would indicate it. So "how
    >>> many people do you know?" is really not the right question to ask.


    >> If it's someone you "know", you would know either because they talk with you about it, or you find the same number
    >> sometimes ringing thru to their home, sometimes ringing thru to their office,
    >> sometimes reaching them on their cell phone, etc. and you can tell (by the call quality) that you aren't just
    >> reaching them on their
    >> cell phone at 3 different locations.


    > That's the problem, the call quality is indistinguishable from the
    > call quality on a normal land line or cell phone. But to be fair, I
    > probably have never been on a VOIP to VOIP call,


    I have been, lots of times, essentially because calls between
    customers on my VSPs are free.

    > it's cell to VOIP or landline to VOIP.



  • 08-26-2011, 01:10 PM
    Rod Speed
    jcdill wrote
    > tycho wrote
    >> jcdill<[email protected]> wrote
    >>> Steve Sobol wrote


    >>>>> Besides yourself, how many people do you know who give out a VOIP
    >>>>> number as the primary number for others to call to reach them?


    >>>> I do.


    >>> *besides yourself*, how many....?


    >> One more here... :-P


    > *besides yourself*, how many....?


    > Many of the people in this newsgroup might use a VOIP number as their
    > only phone number, but that's because (in most cases) you are an early
    > adopter of things like this. But *besides yourself*, how many people
    > do you know (not just know thru this NG, but know IRL) who do it?


    More than a dozen.


  • 08-26-2011, 01:10 PM
    Rod Speed
    jcdill wrote
    > tycho wrote
    >> jcdill<[email protected]> wrote
    >>> Steve Sobol wrote


    >>>>> Besides yourself, how many people do you know who give out a VOIP
    >>>>> number as the primary number for others to call to reach them?


    >>>> I do.


    >>> *besides yourself*, how many....?


    >> One more here... :-P


    > *besides yourself*, how many....?


    > Many of the people in this newsgroup might use a VOIP number as their
    > only phone number, but that's because (in most cases) you are an early
    > adopter of things like this. But *besides yourself*, how many people
    > do you know (not just know thru this NG, but know IRL) who do it?


    More than a dozen.


  • 08-26-2011, 10:49 AM
    SMS
    On 8/26/2011 9:07 AM, jcdill wrote:
    > On 24/08/11 6:53 PM, SMS wrote:
    >
    >> Well I don't know many besides myself, but it's definitely more than
    >> one. With Google Voice being more widely deployed it's increasing. The
    >> thing is you don't really know if it's a VOIP number you've been given
    >> since there is nothing that would indicate it. So "how many people do
    >> you know?" is really not the right question to ask.

    >
    > If it's someone you "know", you would know either because they talk with
    > you about it, or you find the same number sometimes ringing thru to
    > their home, sometimes ringing thru to their office, sometimes reaching
    > them on their cell phone, etc. and you can tell (by the call quality)
    > that you aren't just reaching them on their cell phone at 3 different
    > locations.


    That's the problem, the call quality is indistinguishable from the call
    quality on a normal land line or cell phone. But to be fair, I probably
    have never been on a VOIP to VOIP call, it's cell to VOIP or landline to
    VOIP.

  • 08-26-2011, 10:49 AM
    SMS
    On 8/26/2011 9:07 AM, jcdill wrote:
    > On 24/08/11 6:53 PM, SMS wrote:
    >
    >> Well I don't know many besides myself, but it's definitely more than
    >> one. With Google Voice being more widely deployed it's increasing. The
    >> thing is you don't really know if it's a VOIP number you've been given
    >> since there is nothing that would indicate it. So "how many people do
    >> you know?" is really not the right question to ask.

    >
    > If it's someone you "know", you would know either because they talk with
    > you about it, or you find the same number sometimes ringing thru to
    > their home, sometimes ringing thru to their office, sometimes reaching
    > them on their cell phone, etc. and you can tell (by the call quality)
    > that you aren't just reaching them on their cell phone at 3 different
    > locations.


    That's the problem, the call quality is indistinguishable from the call
    quality on a normal land line or cell phone. But to be fair, I probably
    have never been on a VOIP to VOIP call, it's cell to VOIP or landline to
    VOIP.

  • 08-26-2011, 10:07 AM
    jcdill
    On 24/08/11 6:53 PM, SMS wrote:

    > Well I don't know many besides myself, but it's definitely more than
    > one. With Google Voice being more widely deployed it's increasing. The
    > thing is you don't really know if it's a VOIP number you've been given
    > since there is nothing that would indicate it. So "how many people do
    > you know?" is really not the right question to ask.


    If it's someone you "know", you would know either because they talk with
    you about it, or you find the same number sometimes ringing thru to
    their home, sometimes ringing thru to their office, sometimes reaching
    them on their cell phone, etc. and you can tell (by the call quality)
    that you aren't just reaching them on their cell phone at 3 different
    locations.

    jc
  • 08-26-2011, 10:07 AM
    jcdill
    On 24/08/11 6:53 PM, SMS wrote:

    > Well I don't know many besides myself, but it's definitely more than
    > one. With Google Voice being more widely deployed it's increasing. The
    > thing is you don't really know if it's a VOIP number you've been given
    > since there is nothing that would indicate it. So "how many people do
    > you know?" is really not the right question to ask.


    If it's someone you "know", you would know either because they talk with
    you about it, or you find the same number sometimes ringing thru to
    their home, sometimes ringing thru to their office, sometimes reaching
    them on their cell phone, etc. and you can tell (by the call quality)
    that you aren't just reaching them on their cell phone at 3 different
    locations.

    jc
  • 08-26-2011, 10:05 AM
    jcdill
    On 24/08/11 3:02 PM, tycho wrote:
    > "jcdill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> On 24/08/11 9:26 AM, Steve Sobol wrote:
    >>
    >>>> Besides yourself, how many people do you know who give out a VOIP number
    >>>> as the primary number for others to call to reach them?
    >>>
    >>> I do.

    >>
    >> *besides yourself*, how many....?

    >
    > One more here... :-P


    *besides yourself*, how many....?

    Many of the people in this newsgroup might use a VOIP number as their
    only phone number, but that's because (in most cases) you are an early
    adopter of things like this. But *besides yourself*, how many people do
    you know (not just know thru this NG, but know IRL) who do it?

    jc

  • 08-26-2011, 10:05 AM
    jcdill
    On 24/08/11 3:02 PM, tycho wrote:
    > "jcdill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> On 24/08/11 9:26 AM, Steve Sobol wrote:
    >>
    >>>> Besides yourself, how many people do you know who give out a VOIP number
    >>>> as the primary number for others to call to reach them?
    >>>
    >>> I do.

    >>
    >> *besides yourself*, how many....?

    >
    > One more here... :-P


    *besides yourself*, how many....?

    Many of the people in this newsgroup might use a VOIP number as their
    only phone number, but that's because (in most cases) you are an early
    adopter of things like this. But *besides yourself*, how many people do
    you know (not just know thru this NG, but know IRL) who do it?

    jc

  • 08-25-2011, 08:47 PM
    Justin
    Paul Miner wrote on [Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:04:43 -0500]:
    > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:17:34 +0000 (UTC), Justin
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:31:46 -0400]:
    >>> On 8/25/2011 6:29 PM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >>>> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:43:25 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
    >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On 8/25/2011 12:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    >>>>>> On 08/25/2011 05:30 AM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>
    >>> The Verizon directory I have in hand has a separate section for
    >>> government, both local and U.S.
    >>>
    >>> This is followed by the "white pages", a listing of all subscribers
    >>> telephone together with their street address and phone number. There
    >>> are both residential and business numbers. You have to pay extra to
    >>> have an unlisted number!
    >>>
    >>> Next come the "Yellow Pages" listing business telephone numbers in
    >>> alphabetical order by occupation; e.g. all the carpenters, all the
    >>> doctors, all the dress makers, all the plumbers, etc, etc.

    >>
    >>Did you know that in big cities, they used to be separate books.
    >>When phone books were relevant
    >>
    >>You do know that many phone books are only updated annually, right?
    >>So, when a new company comes into being you have to wait a long time
    >>to find that number in the book.

    >
    > On the flip side, you might have to wait a year for a defunct business
    > to disappear from the yellow pages.


    I have seen numbers in the book for people who died years ago.
    Up until the last phone book they still had the number for TCI Cable, which
    was bought by Insight about a decade or more ago which has since sold
    off to Comcast a few years ago.
  • 08-25-2011, 08:47 PM
    Justin
    Paul Miner wrote on [Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:04:43 -0500]:
    > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:17:34 +0000 (UTC), Justin
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:31:46 -0400]:
    >>> On 8/25/2011 6:29 PM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >>>> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:43:25 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
    >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On 8/25/2011 12:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    >>>>>> On 08/25/2011 05:30 AM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>
    >>> The Verizon directory I have in hand has a separate section for
    >>> government, both local and U.S.
    >>>
    >>> This is followed by the "white pages", a listing of all subscribers
    >>> telephone together with their street address and phone number. There
    >>> are both residential and business numbers. You have to pay extra to
    >>> have an unlisted number!
    >>>
    >>> Next come the "Yellow Pages" listing business telephone numbers in
    >>> alphabetical order by occupation; e.g. all the carpenters, all the
    >>> doctors, all the dress makers, all the plumbers, etc, etc.

    >>
    >>Did you know that in big cities, they used to be separate books.
    >>When phone books were relevant
    >>
    >>You do know that many phone books are only updated annually, right?
    >>So, when a new company comes into being you have to wait a long time
    >>to find that number in the book.

    >
    > On the flip side, you might have to wait a year for a defunct business
    > to disappear from the yellow pages.


    I have seen numbers in the book for people who died years ago.
    Up until the last phone book they still had the number for TCI Cable, which
    was bought by Insight about a decade or more ago which has since sold
    off to Comcast a few years ago.
  • 08-25-2011, 08:04 PM
    Paul Miner
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:17:34 +0000 (UTC), Justin
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:31:46 -0400]:
    >> On 8/25/2011 6:29 PM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:43:25 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 8/25/2011 12:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    >>>>> On 08/25/2011 05:30 AM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >>>>>

    >>
    >> The Verizon directory I have in hand has a separate section for
    >> government, both local and U.S.
    >>
    >> This is followed by the "white pages", a listing of all subscribers
    >> telephone together with their street address and phone number. There
    >> are both residential and business numbers. You have to pay extra to
    >> have an unlisted number!
    >>
    >> Next come the "Yellow Pages" listing business telephone numbers in
    >> alphabetical order by occupation; e.g. all the carpenters, all the
    >> doctors, all the dress makers, all the plumbers, etc, etc.

    >
    >Did you know that in big cities, they used to be separate books.
    >When phone books were relevant
    >
    >You do know that many phone books are only updated annually, right?
    >So, when a new company comes into being you have to wait a long time
    >to find that number in the book.


    On the flip side, you might have to wait a year for a defunct business
    to disappear from the yellow pages.

    --
    Paul Miner
  • 08-25-2011, 08:04 PM
    Paul Miner
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:17:34 +0000 (UTC), Justin
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:31:46 -0400]:
    >> On 8/25/2011 6:29 PM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:43:25 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 8/25/2011 12:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    >>>>> On 08/25/2011 05:30 AM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >>>>>

    >>
    >> The Verizon directory I have in hand has a separate section for
    >> government, both local and U.S.
    >>
    >> This is followed by the "white pages", a listing of all subscribers
    >> telephone together with their street address and phone number. There
    >> are both residential and business numbers. You have to pay extra to
    >> have an unlisted number!
    >>
    >> Next come the "Yellow Pages" listing business telephone numbers in
    >> alphabetical order by occupation; e.g. all the carpenters, all the
    >> doctors, all the dress makers, all the plumbers, etc, etc.

    >
    >Did you know that in big cities, they used to be separate books.
    >When phone books were relevant
    >
    >You do know that many phone books are only updated annually, right?
    >So, when a new company comes into being you have to wait a long time
    >to find that number in the book.


    On the flip side, you might have to wait a year for a defunct business
    to disappear from the yellow pages.

    --
    Paul Miner
  • 08-25-2011, 07:17 PM
    Justin
    Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:31:46 -0400]:
    > On 8/25/2011 6:29 PM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:43:25 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 8/25/2011 12:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    >>>> On 08/25/2011 05:30 AM, Paul Miner wrote:
    >>>>

    >
    > The Verizon directory I have in hand has a separate section for
    > government, both local and U.S.
    >
    > This is followed by the "white pages", a listing of all subscribers
    > telephone together with their street address and phone number. There
    > are both residential and business numbers. You have to pay extra to
    > have an unlisted number!
    >
    > Next come the "Yellow Pages" listing business telephone numbers in
    > alphabetical order by occupation; e.g. all the carpenters, all the
    > doctors, all the dress makers, all the plumbers, etc, etc.


    Did you know that in big cities, they used to be separate books.
    When phone books were relevant

    You do know that many phone books are only updated annually, right?
    So, when a new company comes into being you have to wait a long time
    to find that number in the book.

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