In article <[email protected]>, rihanna
<[email protected]> wrote:

> 1) goPhone does NOT support iPhone officially

true

> 2) If you unlock the iPhone through jailbreaking it may work, but
> usually only for talk. No guarantee ANy other function will work

there is no need to unlock or jailbreak an iphone to use it with
gophone and data only requires changing the apn.

> 3) Why don't you try T-mobile? You may be able to buy iPhone elsewhere
> and activate it on T-mobile. If not, they have several decent Android
> phones that's almost as good as iPhone (in some respects, better)

if you don't mind being limited to 2g speeds, t-mobile is an option.

1) goPhone does NOT support iPhone officially

2) If you unlock the iPhone through jailbreaking it may work, but
usually only for talk. No guarantee ANy other function will work

3) Why don't you try T-mobile? You may be able to buy iPhone elsewhere
and activate it on T-mobile. If not, they have several decent Android
phones that's almost as good as iPhone (in some respects, better)




--
rihanna

John McWilliams <[email protected]> writes:

> On 9/14/11 PDT 12:21 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > John McWilliams<[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> On 9/13/11 PDT 8:51 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
> >>> nospam<[email protected]> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> In article<[email protected]>, Doug Anderson
> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> You might want to not tell them you are using this on an iPhone. You
> >>>>>>> won't need to unlock your iPhone for an AT&T prepaid SIM to work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> you *definitely* don't, since iphone on gophone is not supported.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> By "not supported" you mean that AT&T says that you aren't allowed to
> >>>>> use the iPhone as a prepaid phone. But as far as I can tell, they do
> >>>>> nothing to enforce that on phones that are no longer under contract.
> >>>>
> >>>> they don't seem to actively block it, but if you need to call at&t for
> >>>> anything (or visit a store) they will see what device you are using.
> >>>
> >>> If you choose to show them, yes.
> >>>
> >>>> you also have to use a custom apn since the default one won't work but
> >>>> that's minor.
> >>>
> >>> And only matters if you have data usage.
> >>>
> >> Not a lot of point to having an iPhone without data, is there?
> >
> > Actually a lot. I used to carry a cell phone and an ipod. Now I just
> > carry my iphone (without data) and have cell phone and ipod
> > functionality in one device.
> >
> > In addition, I spend most of my day at home, work, or other places
> > with WIFI, so I have email and internet access as well.
> >
> > Yes, having a data plan might be nice, but I have what I have for
> > about $15 per month, and getting a data plan would end up costing me a
> > lot more when all was said and done.
>
> Well, I wasn't trying to pick nits, but data is data, whether it comes
> via WiFi or cell towers, (3G, Edge, etc.).

If you say so. But my wifi data is free, and if I get data from cell
towers I have to pay for it.

So to me there is a big difference.

On 9/14/11 PDT 12:21 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
> John McWilliams<[email protected]> writes:
>
>> On 9/13/11 PDT 8:51 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
>>> nospam<[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>> In article<[email protected]>, Doug Anderson
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> You might want to not tell them you are using this on an iPhone. You
>>>>>>> won't need to unlock your iPhone for an AT&T prepaid SIM to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you *definitely* don't, since iphone on gophone is not supported.
>>>>>
>>>>> By "not supported" you mean that AT&T says that you aren't allowed to
>>>>> use the iPhone as a prepaid phone. But as far as I can tell, they do
>>>>> nothing to enforce that on phones that are no longer under contract.
>>>>
>>>> they don't seem to actively block it, but if you need to call at&t for
>>>> anything (or visit a store) they will see what device you are using.
>>>
>>> If you choose to show them, yes.
>>>
>>>> you also have to use a custom apn since the default one won't work but
>>>> that's minor.
>>>
>>> And only matters if you have data usage.
>>>
>> Not a lot of point to having an iPhone without data, is there?
>
> Actually a lot. I used to carry a cell phone and an ipod. Now I just
> carry my iphone (without data) and have cell phone and ipod
> functionality in one device.
>
> In addition, I spend most of my day at home, work, or other places
> with WIFI, so I have email and internet access as well.
>
> Yes, having a data plan might be nice, but I have what I have for
> about $15 per month, and getting a data plan would end up costing me a
> lot more when all was said and done.

Well, I wasn't trying to pick nits, but data is data, whether it comes
via WiFi or cell towers, (3G, Edge, etc.). But a data *plan*, that's a
fish of a different stripe/color/specie. What I just learned from a day
in Canada, is that data streaming in to populate the Maps on my iPhone
adds up to a lot of "data"..... about $1900.00 worth.

So, a i/GoPhone can still connect to WiFi; very handy.

On 17/09/2011 17:40, Anonymous wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2011 00:52:24 GMT, John Doe<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Not that it matters, but... I wonder why someone who has been on
>> UseNet for years and still does not know how to introduce prior
>> authors thinks he's qualified to provide technical help. Everybody
>> else on UseNet is smart enough to use a newsreader that properly
>> introduces prior authors.
>
> And this is coming from a top-poster? People in glass houses
> shouldn't throw stones...

Was going to say the same but really CBA ;-)

--
J B

On 14 Sep 2011 00:52:24 GMT, John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:

>Not that it matters, but... I wonder why someone who has been on
>UseNet for years and still does not know how to introduce prior
>authors thinks he's qualified to provide technical help. Everybody
>else on UseNet is smart enough to use a newsreader that properly
>introduces prior authors.

And this is coming from a top-poster? People in glass houses
shouldn't throw stones...

JF Mezei <[email protected]> writes:

> Doug Anderson wrote:
>
> > Yes. Well, since AT&T stores will give you SIM cards for free (and
> > activate them for you) maybe ebay isn't such a good place to buy an
> > AT&T SIM card.
>
> I march 2010, AT&T charged me $25 for a SIM card alone (no airtime).
>
> Maybe today they give them out for free, but tormoow, I don't know.

Maybe they only give them out for free if you are buying airtime. In
my case (and my brother's, which was probably in fall 2010) we got
free SIMs, with air time.
>
> If you want prepaid service, they likely will not give you a micro
> SIM

Probably true.

> which is why it is safer/simpler to buy from ebay and be sure you have
> one before your trip starts.

Well, maybe. There are complications either way. Getting a SIM at
AT&T is simpler than getting one from ebay, since they'll sell you
minutes and then activate it right there. But I suppose cutting
it down to micro size is less safe than buying a microsim in the first
place.

Doug Anderson wrote:

> Yes. Well, since AT&T stores will give you SIM cards for free (and
> activate them for you) maybe ebay isn't such a good place to buy an
> AT&T SIM card.

I march 2010, AT&T charged me $25 for a SIM card alone (no airtime).

Maybe today they give them out for free, but tormoow, I don't know.

If you want prepaid service, they likely will not give you a micro SIM
which is why it is safer/simpler to buy from ebay and be sure you have
one before your trip starts.

nospam <[email protected]> writes:

> In article <[email protected]>, Doug Anderson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > you will need to activate the gophone account with another phone after
> > > > > you get to the usa because it will send you a text message and you need
> > > > > to be in at&t coverage to receive it.
> > > > >
> > > > > after you sign up, you can swap the sim to the iphone and the chances
> > > > > that at&t will care are very very low but there are no guarantees since
> > > > > it is not officially supported.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, you will be able to simply put your AT&T card into your
> > > > unlocked iPhone.
> > > >
> > > > There is no need to use another phone.
> > >
> > > there is to sign up. it will not work with an iphone.
> > >
> > > *after* you sign up, swap the sim into whatever you want.
> >
> > I just went to the AT&T store, paid them some money for minutes, they
> > gave me a SIM. Then I popped it out and put it in my son's iPhone.
>
> they activated it for you when you paid for minutes.

Whatever. The point is, I didn't need another phone.

> if you get an unactivated sim (such as from ebay) and activate it
> online, it won't activate in an iphone. been there done that. you need
> to put it in something else for activation, and then swap it once it's
> active.

Yes. Well, since AT&T stores will give you SIM cards for free (and
activate them for you) maybe ebay isn't such a good place to buy an
AT&T SIM card.

In article <[email protected]>, Doug Anderson
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > > > you will need to activate the gophone account with another phone after
> > > > you get to the usa because it will send you a text message and you need
> > > > to be in at&t coverage to receive it.
> > > >
> > > > after you sign up, you can swap the sim to the iphone and the chances
> > > > that at&t will care are very very low but there are no guarantees since
> > > > it is not officially supported.
> > >
> > > Actually, you will be able to simply put your AT&T card into your
> > > unlocked iPhone.
> > >
> > > There is no need to use another phone.
> >
> > there is to sign up. it will not work with an iphone.
> >
> > *after* you sign up, swap the sim into whatever you want.
>
> I just went to the AT&T store, paid them some money for minutes, they
> gave me a SIM. Then I popped it out and put it in my son's iPhone.

they activated it for you when you paid for minutes.

if you get an unactivated sim (such as from ebay) and activate it
online, it won't activate in an iphone. been there done that. you need
to put it in something else for activation, and then swap it once it's
active.

Doug Anderson <[email protected]> writes:

> nospam <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>, Doug Anderson
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > you will need to activate the gophone account with another phone after
> > > > you get to the usa because it will send you a text message and you need
> > > > to be in at&t coverage to receive it.
> > > >
> > > > after you sign up, you can swap the sim to the iphone and the chances
> > > > that at&t will care are very very low but there are no guarantees since
> > > > it is not officially supported.
> > >
> > > Actually, you will be able to simply put your AT&T card into your
> > > unlocked iPhone.
> > >
> > > There is no need to use another phone.
> >
> > there is to sign up. it will not work with an iphone.
> >
> > *after* you sign up, swap the sim into whatever you want.
>
> I just went to the AT&T store, paid them some money for minutes, they
> gave me a SIM. Then I popped it out and put it in my son's iPhone.

Clarification: popped it out of the card it came attached to, not out
of another phone.

> Ditto my brother.

nospam <[email protected]> writes:

> In article <[email protected]>, Doug Anderson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > you will need to activate the gophone account with another phone after
> > > you get to the usa because it will send you a text message and you need
> > > to be in at&t coverage to receive it.
> > >
> > > after you sign up, you can swap the sim to the iphone and the chances
> > > that at&t will care are very very low but there are no guarantees since
> > > it is not officially supported.
> >
> > Actually, you will be able to simply put your AT&T card into your
> > unlocked iPhone.
> >
> > There is no need to use another phone.
>
> there is to sign up. it will not work with an iphone.
>
> *after* you sign up, swap the sim into whatever you want.

I just went to the AT&T store, paid them some money for minutes, they
gave me a SIM. Then I popped it out and put it in my son's iPhone.

Ditto my brother.

In article <[email protected]>, Doug Anderson
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > you will need to activate the gophone account with another phone after
> > you get to the usa because it will send you a text message and you need
> > to be in at&t coverage to receive it.
> >
> > after you sign up, you can swap the sim to the iphone and the chances
> > that at&t will care are very very low but there are no guarantees since
> > it is not officially supported.
>
> Actually, you will be able to simply put your AT&T card into your
> unlocked iPhone.
>
> There is no need to use another phone.

there is to sign up. it will not work with an iphone.

*after* you sign up, swap the sim into whatever you want.

nospam <[email protected]> writes:

> In article <[email protected]>, JF
> Mezei <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > if I get a unlocked phone frm Apple in canada, and then go to AT&T in
> > the USA with prepaid AT&T card.
> >
> > Can the AT&T find out from the IMEI *alone* that this is an iphone ?
> > They wouldn't have that imei in their datatabase.
>
> yes. they don't need a database:
> <http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr>
>
> you will need to activate the gophone account with another phone after
> you get to the usa because it will send you a text message and you need
> to be in at&t coverage to receive it.
>
> after you sign up, you can swap the sim to the iphone and the chances
> that at&t will care are very very low but there are no guarantees since
> it is not officially supported.

Actually, you will be able to simply put your AT&T card into your
unlocked iPhone.

There is no need to use another phone.

I'm not speculating, I've done this twice, although I understand this
doesn't guarantee that it always works.

In article <[email protected]>, JF
Mezei <[email protected]> wrote:

> if I get a unlocked phone frm Apple in canada, and then go to AT&T in
> the USA with prepaid AT&T card.
>
> Can the AT&T find out from the IMEI *alone* that this is an iphone ?
> They wouldn't have that imei in their datatabase.

yes. they don't need a database:
<http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr>

you will need to activate the gophone account with another phone after
you get to the usa because it will send you a text message and you need
to be in at&t coverage to receive it.

after you sign up, you can swap the sim to the iphone and the chances
that at&t will care are very very low but there are no guarantees since
it is not officially supported.