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- 06-06-2010, 01:49 PM #1OxfordGuest
Here is some good data in how the iPhone continues to take over the cell
phone market...
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/06/...id-gain-on-rim
enjoy!
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- 06-09-2010, 06:15 PM #2JGGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
On Jun 6, 2:49 pm, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here is some good data in how the iPhone continues to take over the cell
> phone market...
>
> http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/06/...ndroid-gain-on...
>
> enjoy!
It was hilarious how the iphone-1 became just an ipod after iphone-2
came out. Jobs/Apple really hosed the bleeding edge hipster crowd.
- 06-10-2010, 12:42 AM #3Your NameGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
"Michelle Steiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article
> <ca72ad7a-0884-4efb-95b5-c6d3d42befe6@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> JG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It was hilarious how the iphone-1 became just an ipod after iphone-2
> > came out.
>
> Where did you get that ridiculous idea from?
The same place Loser Larry gets his "ideas" from ... the local sewage plant.
:-\
- 06-10-2010, 01:18 AM #4SMSGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
On 09/06/10 5:15 PM, JG wrote:
<snip>
> It was hilarious how the iphone-1 became just an ipod after iphone-2
> came out. Jobs/Apple really hosed the bleeding edge hipster crowd.
What typically happened with those original iPhones (what I saw among
colleagues and relatives anyway) is that the old iPhone became their
kid's pseudo iPod Touch (and at least it has a camera!), and the parent
got a 3G iPhone.
It's certainly a better 2nd life for an old phone than most old phones
enjoy. And it could always be used on a prepaid account on AT&T or
T-Mobile (if unlocked). This is why the resale prices on the older
iPhones have remained fairly high.
What I find more ridiculous is all the people I know that carry around
an iPod Touch _and_ a Droid. They wanted a smart phone for web access
but in my area AT&T's coverage is quite poor so they would not get an
iPhone, but they want to keep using iPhone/iPod Touch applications and
keep their music on the iPod.
- 06-10-2010, 02:10 AM #5Jochem HuhmannGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
SMS <[email protected]> writes:
> What I find more ridiculous is all the people I know that carry around
> an iPod Touch _and_ a Droid. They wanted a smart phone for web access
> but in my area AT&T's coverage is quite poor so they would not get an
> iPhone, but they want to keep using iPhone/iPod Touch applications and
> keep their music on the iPod.
I have to pity the US. AT&T is just a drag on the iPhone. And not
having several carriers to pick from is not good for the market anyway.
Hell, this is not a market at all.
Jochem
--
"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
- 06-10-2010, 08:25 AM #6Jolly RogerGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
In article <[email protected]>, Jochem Huhmann <[email protected]>
wrote:
> SMS <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > What I find more ridiculous is all the people I know that carry around
> > an iPod Touch _and_ a Droid. They wanted a smart phone for web access
> > but in my area AT&T's coverage is quite poor so they would not get an
> > iPhone, but they want to keep using iPhone/iPod Touch applications and
> > keep their music on the iPod.
>
> I have to pity the US. AT&T is just a drag on the iPhone.
No more so than any other carrier.
> And not
> having several carriers to pick from is not good for the market anyway.
> Hell, this is not a market at all.
How many iPhone carriers do you have to choose from?
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- 06-10-2010, 08:48 AM #7SMSGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
On 10/06/10 1:10 AM, Jochem Huhmann wrote:
> SMS<[email protected]> writes:
>
>> What I find more ridiculous is all the people I know that carry around
>> an iPod Touch _and_ a Droid. They wanted a smart phone for web access
>> but in my area AT&T's coverage is quite poor so they would not get an
>> iPhone, but they want to keep using iPhone/iPod Touch applications and
>> keep their music on the iPod.
>
> I have to pity the US. AT&T is just a drag on the iPhone. And not
> having several carriers to pick from is not good for the market anyway.
> Hell, this is not a market at all.
Blame Verizon. They were offered the iPhone first, and turned it down.
Then they ran those very clever, but accurate, ads last year making fun
of AT&T's 3G coverage, and the lack of multi-tasking on the iPhone. On
the plus side, it forced AT&T to improve coverage and Apple to add
features, but on the minus side it not endear Verizon to Apple.
- 06-10-2010, 09:26 AM #8DevilsPGDGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
In message
<ca72ad7a-0884-4efb-95b5-c6d3d42befe6@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> JG
<[email protected]> was claimed to have wrote:
>It was hilarious how the iphone-1 became just an ipod after iphone-2
>came out.
huh?
- 06-10-2010, 09:45 AM #9SMSGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
On 10/06/10 8:26 AM, DevilsPGD wrote:
> In message
> <ca72ad7a-0884-4efb-95b5-c6d3d42befe6@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> JG
> <[email protected]> was claimed to have wrote:
>
>> It was hilarious how the iphone-1 became just an ipod after iphone-2
>> came out.
>
> huh?
He's referring to the scenario where an iPhone 2G owner replaced the 2G
with a 3G and then a family member/friend/etc. used the iPhone 2G
essentially as an iPod Touch rather than selling it or activating it on
prepaid AT&T (or AT&T MVNO) or unlocking it for T-Mobile prepaid. I've
seen a lot of this usage of the iPhone 2G, especially by small children
of the iPhone 3G owner who use it essentially as a gaming platform.
What's not clear is why he views this as hilarious. Seems like a good
re-use of the old phone. How many other phones have a second use after
they are no longer practical to use as a phone.
There's not much of a market for used 2G iPhones to use as phones
because when AT&T/Apple switched to the subsidized model (the 2G was
unsubsidized) the 3G models were cheaper than the used 2G phones
(depending on where you were). Now the old 2G 8GB models sell for about
$100, while an 8GB new iPod Touch is about $175. I guess I'd choose an
iPod Touch with a new battery and a warranty over a two year old iPhone,
but if a kid gets the parent's old iPhone for free then it's a different
story.
- 06-10-2010, 10:23 AM #10Jolly RogerGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
In article <[email protected]>,
Dennis Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2010-06-10, Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, Jochem Huhmann <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> And not
> >> having several carriers to pick from is not good for the market anyway.
> >> Hell, this is not a market at all.
> >
> > How many iPhone carriers do you have to choose from?
>
> In Hong Kong I have two carriers to choose from if I want to buy
> a subsidized iPhone from a carrier, or five choices if I buy an
> unsubsidized iPhone from the Apple store. And the phones are
> unlocked in either case so I don't have to fool around to unlock
> them if I want to change carriers.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
That's great for you.
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- 06-10-2010, 11:00 AM #11SMSGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
On 10/06/10 9:52 AM, DevilsPGD wrote:
<snip>
> It's nice to see that Apple didn't add any artificial limits to the
> iPhone that prevent it from being used in iPod Touch duties.
They forgot.
- 06-10-2010, 02:20 PM #12Richard B. GilbertGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
DevilsPGD wrote:
> In message <[email protected]> SMS
> <[email protected]> was claimed to have wrote:
>
>> On 10/06/10 8:26 AM, DevilsPGD wrote:
>>> In message
>>> <ca72ad7a-0884-4efb-95b5-c6d3d42befe6@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> JG
>>> <[email protected]> was claimed to have wrote:
>>>
>>>> It was hilarious how the iphone-1 became just an ipod after iphone-2
>>>> came out.
>>> huh?
>> He's referring to the scenario where an iPhone 2G owner replaced the 2G
>> with a 3G and then a family member/friend/etc. used the iPhone 2G
>> essentially as an iPod Touch rather than selling it or activating it on
>> prepaid AT&T (or AT&T MVNO) or unlocking it for T-Mobile prepaid. I've
>> seen a lot of this usage of the iPhone 2G, especially by small children
>> of the iPhone 3G owner who use it essentially as a gaming platform.
>>
>> What's not clear is why he views this as hilarious. Seems like a good
>> re-use of the old phone. How many other phones have a second use after
>> they are no longer practical to use as a phone.
>
> Yeah, I understand the usage, I just didn't get the joke. Traditionally
> most smartphones (Windows Mobile and PalmOS in particular) were quite
> functional even without service, only Blackberry wasn't.
What makes you say that? I bought a lot of three second-hand
Blackberrys for $20 plus shipping just to play with. The PDA functions
work without a "service provider". I can keep an address book,
appointment calendar, notepad, etc. I just can't make or receive phone
calls or send and receive e-mail without paying a service provider.
If I needed to add or update contacts, or to send and receive e-mail in
the field I think I would choose a Blackberry. For such usage a QWERTY
keyboard would be a "must have" for me.
If my old but faithful RAZR V3m should fail I might just get a
Blackberry anyway.
- 06-10-2010, 03:58 PM #13SMSGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
On 10/06/10 9:52 AM, DevilsPGD wrote:
<snip>
> Yeah, I understand the usage, I just didn't get the joke. Traditionally
> most smartphones (Windows Mobile and PalmOS in particular) were quite
> functional even without service, only Blackberry wasn't.
Well with those phones (other than the Blackberry) you could at least
sign up for low cost prepaid service with pay-go data on PagePlus if
they were CDMA Verizon phones. It was really only the Blackberry that
made no sense as a used phone.
- 06-10-2010, 10:02 PM #14nospamGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
In article
<b98bd3f6-7853-46ca-a6b4-c40b1f434da3@w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, JG
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > It was hilarious how the iphone-1 became just an ipod after iphone-2
> > > came out.
> >
> > Where did you get that ridiculous idea from?
>
> July 2, 2008
> "Original iPhone owners who prefer not to give away or sell their old
> iPhones after upgrading to an iPhone 3G can instead keep their devices
> and use them as WiFi-enabled iPods, AT&T has confirmed.
yes, but they can also still be used as iphones if someone wants to
sign up with a carrier. quite a few were unlocked and used on t-mobile
(or other international carriers). or they can be used without any
carrier as an ipod.
- 06-12-2010, 05:43 PM #15Jochem HuhmannGuest
Re: Nice Charts showing how the iPhone is Crushing the Market
Jolly Roger <[email protected]> writes:
>> And not having several carriers to pick from is not good for the
>> market anyway. Hell, this is not a market at all.
>
> How many iPhone carriers do you have to choose from?
Meanwhile you can get an iPhone from all carriers in Germany, with a
contract or without one.
Jochem
--
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longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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