Gosh, Z600 suck in terms of size!

Finally laid my hand on a Z600 here after much anticipation for the
return of a flip phone to S/E line up...

Gosh, it's so big compared with T610 and other flips from Korean brands!

I was so disappointed by the physical dimension of the unit. Given the
choice, I would grudgingly take the T610.

So what was SE thinking in designing this Z600?!?

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I've had my Z600 for 2 weeks now and I love the size.

I've read posts about it being "a hamburger" and so forth, but it's a
realistic size.

I love the decent button sizes (and reasonable space between buttons -
certainly no fear of miss-hitting).

And when closed, it sits comfortably in my pocket. I guess the key issue
apart from size is weight, and I don't think anyone can criticize it's
weight - it's so light, that even at it's size, you bearly feel it.

And for me, it seems really sturdy and firm. Very confident closing sound
and feel, and I've played with some flimsy flip phones in my time - this one
tops the list.

But everyone has their own criteria, and I just wanted to offer my opinion.

Cheers,
Pete

"Whytoi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:030120042331501939%[email protected]...
> Finally laid my hand on a Z600 here after much anticipation for the
> return of a flip phone to S/E line up...
>
> Gosh, it's so big compared with T610 and other flips from Korean brands!
>
> I was so disappointed by the physical dimension of the unit. Given the
> choice, I would grudgingly take the T610.
>
> So what was SE thinking in designing this Z600?!?

"Pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my Z600 for 2 weeks now and I love the size.
>
> I've read posts about it being "a hamburger" and so forth, but it's a
> realistic size.
>
> I love the decent button sizes (and reasonable space between buttons -
> certainly no fear of miss-hitting).
>
> And when closed, it sits comfortably in my pocket. I guess the key issue
> apart from size is weight, and I don't think anyone can criticize it's
> weight - it's so light, that even at it's size, you bearly feel it.
>
> And for me, it seems really sturdy and firm. Very confident closing sound
> and feel, and I've played with some flimsy flip phones in my time - this
one
> tops the list.


I would like to jump on your wagon, agreeing with all the points that you
mentioned about the Z600. I've had mine for some 6-8 weeks now and it's
perfect. Ofcourse a somewhat thinner version would suit me even better, the
size is ok as it is.


--
"and hey...let's be careful out there"

David May
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 Pete wrote:

>And when closed, it sits comfortably in my pocket. I guess the key issue
>apart from size is weight, and I don't think anyone can criticize it's
>weight - it's so light, that even at it's size, you bearly feel it.
>
>And for me, it seems really sturdy and firm. Very confident closing sound
>and feel, and I've played with some flimsy flip phones in my time - this one
>tops the list.

You've hit the nail on the head with those two paragraphs. It's a
comfortable size for use, can be slipped into an otherwise empty pocket
with little risk of damage (unlike various 'smartphones' with their
vulnerable screens) but, more importantly, it FEELS strong enough to be
slipped into a pocket without risk of damage. A perfect balance between
function and strength.

I love my Z600 for all of the above reasons. And from a self-confessed
SF geek, the fact that it looks like something Captain Archer might pull
out of his bag doesn't hurt either

--
Kev
__________________________________________________________________________
"The superintendent of the local zoo was summoned, and after a three hour
struggle he was lassoed and pulled into a waiting cage." Sunday Times

In article <[email protected]>, In Dreams I
Walk With You <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I've had my Z600 for 2 weeks now and I love the size.
> >
> > I've read posts about it being "a hamburger" and so forth, but it's a
> > realistic size.
> >
> > I love the decent button sizes (and reasonable space between buttons -
> > certainly no fear of miss-hitting).
> >
> > And when closed, it sits comfortably in my pocket. I guess the key issue
> > apart from size is weight, and I don't think anyone can criticize it's
> > weight - it's so light, that even at it's size, you bearly feel it.
> >
> > And for me, it seems really sturdy and firm. Very confident closing sound
> > and feel, and I've played with some flimsy flip phones in my time - this
> one
> > tops the list.
>
>
> I would like to jump on your wagon, agreeing with all the points that you
> mentioned about the Z600. I've had mine for some 6-8 weeks now and it's
> perfect. Ofcourse a somewhat thinner version would suit me even better, the
> size is ok as it is.

Interesting how you guys all came to the defence of Z600. Maybe I
should take another closer look at the model next time I am in town.

I personally would love to have the size of the Z300 (?) instead. Now
only if that phone had Bluetooth...

Whytoi wrote:
>
> Finally laid my hand on a Z600 here after much anticipation for the
> return of a flip phone to S/E line up...
>
> Gosh, it's so big compared with T610 and other flips from Korean brands!
>
> I was so disappointed by the physical dimension of the unit. Given the
> choice, I would grudgingly take the T610.
>
> So what was SE thinking in designing this Z600?!?


I think it's because it is the first 3 LCD/screen flip from S/E and they
are still working on making future models smaller.

At first glance I think it looks big too, but out of my friends who have
them, none complain about the size and make similar remarks to the ones
already listed.

Mal wrote:

> I think it's because it is the first 3 LCD/screen flip from S/E and they
> are still working on making future models smaller.

That should be *2* screen

I do think that future flips from S/E will be smaller. The Z600 from
what I understand is pretty much a repackaged T610/30. Once they see
demand for flips then more Research and Development will be made to make
them smaller.

I'm still waiting for a T39m successor.
Z600 is close to play this role, but indeed, in terms of size and weight it
is one step back.
Size and weight is much more important for me than the camera and mms toys.

Klaus

"Whytoi" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
news:030120042331501939%[email protected]...
> Finally laid my hand on a Z600 here after much anticipation for the
> return of a flip phone to S/E line up...
>
> Gosh, it's so big compared with T610 and other flips from Korean brands!
>
> I was so disappointed by the physical dimension of the unit. Given the
> choice, I would grudgingly take the T610.
>
> So what was SE thinking in designing this Z600?!?


The way Volvos were designed some years ago, that's what! Or maybe a brick.

Apart from that, and the fact it doesn't come with a VGA camera, the Z600
seems to be a great phone.

Cheers,


Thorolv Valentinsen

> I love my Z600 for all of the above reasons. And from a self-confessed
> SF geek, the fact that it looks like something Captain Archer might pull
> out of his bag doesn't hurt either

Hahaha, LOL! Too bad the default color is red and silver, and not that
patented Star Trek grey...

Still, I don't think it's really clumsy, a phone that is too small is still
more awkward and difficult to use than one that is a bit bigger than one
might wish, especially if the screen or keypad's been shrunk too much.

In article <[email protected]>, Mal
<[email protected]> wrote:

> At first glance I think it looks big too, but out of my friends who have
> them, none complain about the size and make similar remarks to the ones
> already listed.

Not suspecting bias in those assessments? Size clearly is a considered
issue for anyone who decides to buy one. So to ask decided buyers, a
selected group, is not all that valid.

In article <[email protected]>, Mal
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Mal wrote:
>
> > I think it's because it is the first 3 LCD/screen flip from S/E and they
> > are still working on making future models smaller.
>
> That should be *2* screen
>
> I do think that future flips from S/E will be smaller. The Z600 from
> what I understand is pretty much a repackaged T610/30. Once they see
> demand for flips then more Research and Development will be made to make
> them smaller.

They already have smaller flips!

In article <[email protected]>, Klaus Bonadt
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm still waiting for a T39m successor.
> Z600 is close to play this role, but indeed, in terms of size and weight it
> is one step back.
> Size and weight is much more important for me than the camera and mms toys.

We have comparable criteria there. However, weight of Z600 is actually
ok. It's just size that bothered.

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 Whytoi wrote:

>That's an oxymoron of an answer. What's a comfortable size for the
>pocket? One that _fills_ the pocket? Or one that is small and can be
>carried in your pocket unobtrusively?

I'll leave Pete to field that one since it's his words, not mine, you're
quoting.

>If that's a valid criteria, why hasn't many gone back to the old
>Motorola Startec flip phones?

Because of the protruding antenna and the flimsy hinge? Just one
person's opinion out of many, of course, which is all this thread
ultimately is.

--
Kev
__________________________________________________________________________
"His brother failed. Let's see if he can succeed and maintain the family
tradition." David Coleman

Whytoi wrote:
>
<snip>

> They already have smaller flips!

GSM With all of the features that the Z600 has?

You can't compare it to the T39 etc as the flip on the T39 doesn't have
an LCD, nor is the screen colour.

The Z200 is the closest SE, but that is lacking a few features.

Japanese phones (CDMA2000 or something?) have always been pretty small,
but I believe that is because of technological differences with the
frequencies involved and a different range of features required.