Installation update

We installed the 50dB Wilson Amp #804003 today.
Yagi outside #301111, 60' LMR400 and the Stealth inside antenna #301106
Had to find the best spot outside for the Yagi using a pigtail direct to a
i90 in test mode until we got a good reading, I think it was about a -68 (I
wasn't on the roof so I'm not sure)
then played a little with the best spot for the stealth antenna inside. I
have a single family house with a full basement, my home office is in the
basement and I had no signal in my office before the amp we had 1-2 bars
upstairs and not much better sitting outside on the deck.

Found the best spot for the stealth was at the bottom of the stairs (in the
basement) with the antenna horizontal under the false celling, the antenna
is just laying on top of the celling tile, now I get 4 bars in my office and
3-4 bars anywhere upstairs and 2-3 bars on the deck

A friend of mine who own a cell and satellite TV store did the install, I
called him last week to order it and he said it would run about $600
installed (he sometimes gives me a deal on installation) but when he left
today he said he'd get me the bill tomorrow so I'm not sure of the cost yet.
I'll follow up with the cost.

So far its great.

Brian



"WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:mhPsc.182042$f_5.113717@lakeread01...
> BrianT wrote:
>
> > I ordered on of those yesterday, it should be here Friday or Tuesday.
> >
>
> Please to be writing a full review of said product on
> installation, how well it work, did you barebecue in cats while using
> it etc. A ten page report should be fine. :-D
>
> --
> Check out the gaming & computer forums at the [SS] clan site.
> http://www.shamikaserver.com
>

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wow that's awesome! where did you order it...was it thru ur cell guy? or online? thx for the review...i'm seriously considering it for my house! please keep us updated!

I got the bill today, it cost me $667.98
It works great so far.

"BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We installed the 50dB Wilson Amp #804003 today.
> Yagi outside #301111, 60' LMR400 and the Stealth inside antenna #301106
> Had to find the best spot outside for the Yagi using a pigtail direct to a
> i90 in test mode until we got a good reading, I think it was about a -68
(I
> wasn't on the roof so I'm not sure)
> then played a little with the best spot for the stealth antenna inside. I
> have a single family house with a full basement, my home office is in the
> basement and I had no signal in my office before the amp we had 1-2 bars
> upstairs and not much better sitting outside on the deck.
>
> Found the best spot for the stealth was at the bottom of the stairs (in
the
> basement) with the antenna horizontal under the false celling, the antenna
> is just laying on top of the celling tile, now I get 4 bars in my office
and
> 3-4 bars anywhere upstairs and 2-3 bars on the deck
>
> A friend of mine who own a cell and satellite TV store did the install, I
> called him last week to order it and he said it would run about $600
> installed (he sometimes gives me a deal on installation) but when he left
> today he said he'd get me the bill tomorrow so I'm not sure of the cost
yet.
> I'll follow up with the cost.
>
> So far its great.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> "WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:mhPsc.182042$f_5.113717@lakeread01...
> > BrianT wrote:
> >
> > > I ordered on of those yesterday, it should be here Friday or Tuesday.
> > >
> >
> > Please to be writing a full review of said product on
> > installation, how well it work, did you barebecue in cats while using
> > it etc. A ten page report should be fine. :-D
> >
> > --
> > Check out the gaming & computer forums at the [SS] clan site.
> > http://www.shamikaserver.com
> >
>
>

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...hreadid=378852


"BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I got the bill today, it cost me $667.98
> It works great so far.
>
> "BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > We installed the 50dB Wilson Amp #804003 today.
> > Yagi outside #301111, 60' LMR400 and the Stealth inside antenna #301106
> > Had to find the best spot outside for the Yagi using a pigtail direct to
a
> > i90 in test mode until we got a good reading, I think it was about a -68
> (I
> > wasn't on the roof so I'm not sure)
> > then played a little with the best spot for the stealth antenna inside.
I
> > have a single family house with a full basement, my home office is in
the
> > basement and I had no signal in my office before the amp we had 1-2 bars
> > upstairs and not much better sitting outside on the deck.
> >
> > Found the best spot for the stealth was at the bottom of the stairs (in
> the
> > basement) with the antenna horizontal under the false celling, the
antenna
> > is just laying on top of the celling tile, now I get 4 bars in my office
> and
> > 3-4 bars anywhere upstairs and 2-3 bars on the deck
> >
> > A friend of mine who own a cell and satellite TV store did the install,
I
> > called him last week to order it and he said it would run about $600
> > installed (he sometimes gives me a deal on installation) but when he
left
> > today he said he'd get me the bill tomorrow so I'm not sure of the cost
> yet.
> > I'll follow up with the cost.
> >
> > So far its great.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > "WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:mhPsc.182042$f_5.113717@lakeread01...
> > > BrianT wrote:
> > >
> > > > I ordered on of those yesterday, it should be here Friday or
Tuesday.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Please to be writing a full review of said product on
> > > installation, how well it work, did you barebecue in cats while using
> > > it etc. A ten page report should be fine. :-D
> > >
> > > --
> > > Check out the gaming & computer forums at the [SS] clan site.
> > > http://www.shamikaserver.com
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

"Offri" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...hreadid=378852
>
>
> "BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I got the bill today, it cost me $667.98
> > It works great so far.
> >
> > "BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > We installed the 50dB Wilson Amp #804003 today.


I'll add this and just say that "buyer beware" and the end user is not
considered the licensee:

You are receiving this email in response to your inquiry to the FCC on
10/6/2003 12:39:56 PM.

Thank you for contacting the FCC.

47 CFR 90.219 and 47 CFR 22.283 both include the same term to identify
who is eligible to utilize these devices, the licensee.


Dear FCC Representative,

I am in search of the clarification of the FCC rule stated above on
the
ability of a private, non-FCC licensed individual, to install a signal
booster (aka Bi-Directional Amplifier) to amplify signals above 150
MHz
(specificially 800 and 1.9 GHz) inside of a private building. In my
interpretation of the FCC rule as I tried to explain to an individual
that the said installation of such a system can only be authorized
and/or
installed by a "licensee" holding a Part 90 or Part 22 license (or
their authorized sub-contractor) and he , as a private individual" is
not
allowed to freely install such a system as he is not the "licensee".

This individual is under the impression that because the signal
booster
(BDA) is an un-regulated device he has the ability to install these
units without the concurrence of the Cellular/PCS providers without
their
knowledge. Of course we are at a blockage here as the manufacturers
of
these devices (specificially Andrew Corp.) have also advised him that
he doesn't need any type of authorization to install such a device to
amplify someone else's licensed channels.

For your convenience I have cut and pasted the rule along with my
contact phone number below if you would like to speak directly with
me.

Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.

Mark
_______________________________________________________________________________
FCC Rule:

Sec. 90.219 Use of signal boosters.

Licensees authorized to operate radio systems in the frequency
bands
above 150 MHz may employ signal boosters at fixed locations in
accordance with the following criteria:
(a) The amplified signal is retransmitted only on the exact
frequency(ies) of the originating base, fixed, mobile, or portable
station(s). The booster will fill in only weak signal areas and cannot
extend the system's normal signal coverage area.
(b) Class A narrowband signal boosters must be equipped with
automatic gain control circuitry which will limit the total effective
radiated power (ERP) of the unit to a maximum of 5 watts under all
conditions. Class B broadband signal boosters are limited to 5 watts
ERP
for each authorized frequency that the booster is designed to amplify.
(c) Class A narrowband boosters must meet the out-of-band emission
limits of Sec. 90.209 for each narrowband channel that the booster is
designed to amplify. Class B broadband signal boosters must meet the
emission limits of Sec. 90.209 for frequencies outside of the
booster's
design passband.
(d) Class B broadband signal boosters are permitted to be used
only
in confined or indoor areas such as buildings, tunnels, underground
areas, etc., or in remote areas, i.e., areas where there is little or
no
risk of interference to other users.
(e) The licensee is given authority to operate signal boosters
without separate authorization from the Commission. Certificated
equipment must be employed and the licensee must ensure that all
applicable rule requirements are met.
(f) Licensees employing either Class A narrowband or Class B
broadband signal boosters as defined in Sec. 90.7 are responsible for
correcting any harmful interference that the equipment may cause to
other systems. Normal co-channel transmissions will not be considered
as
harmful interference. Licensees will be required to resolve
interference
problems pursuant to Sec. 90.173(b).

[61 FR 31052, June 19, 1996, as amended at 63 FR 36610, July 7, 1998]

Representative Number : TSR17

What are you implying? The Wilson Amp isn't legal?
I don't understand your post.


"MarkF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Offri" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...hreadid=378852
> >
> >
> > "BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I got the bill today, it cost me $667.98
> > > It works great so far.
> > >
> > > "BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > We installed the 50dB Wilson Amp #804003 today.
>
>
> I'll add this and just say that "buyer beware" and the end user is not
> considered the licensee:
>
> You are receiving this email in response to your inquiry to the FCC on
> 10/6/2003 12:39:56 PM.
>
> Thank you for contacting the FCC.
>
> 47 CFR 90.219 and 47 CFR 22.283 both include the same term to identify
> who is eligible to utilize these devices, the licensee.
>
>
> Dear FCC Representative,
>
> I am in search of the clarification of the FCC rule stated above on
> the
> ability of a private, non-FCC licensed individual, to install a signal
> booster (aka Bi-Directional Amplifier) to amplify signals above 150
> MHz
> (specificially 800 and 1.9 GHz) inside of a private building. In my
> interpretation of the FCC rule as I tried to explain to an individual
> that the said installation of such a system can only be authorized
> and/or
> installed by a "licensee" holding a Part 90 or Part 22 license (or
> their authorized sub-contractor) and he , as a private individual" is
> not
> allowed to freely install such a system as he is not the "licensee".
>
> This individual is under the impression that because the signal
> booster
> (BDA) is an un-regulated device he has the ability to install these
> units without the concurrence of the Cellular/PCS providers without
> their
> knowledge. Of course we are at a blockage here as the manufacturers
> of
> these devices (specificially Andrew Corp.) have also advised him that
> he doesn't need any type of authorization to install such a device to
> amplify someone else's licensed channels.
>
> For your convenience I have cut and pasted the rule along with my
> contact phone number below if you would like to speak directly with
> me.
>
> Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.
>
> Mark
>
____________________________________________________________________________
___
> FCC Rule:
>
> Sec. 90.219 Use of signal boosters.
>
> Licensees authorized to operate radio systems in the frequency
> bands
> above 150 MHz may employ signal boosters at fixed locations in
> accordance with the following criteria:
> (a) The amplified signal is retransmitted only on the exact
> frequency(ies) of the originating base, fixed, mobile, or portable
> station(s). The booster will fill in only weak signal areas and cannot
> extend the system's normal signal coverage area.
> (b) Class A narrowband signal boosters must be equipped with
> automatic gain control circuitry which will limit the total effective
> radiated power (ERP) of the unit to a maximum of 5 watts under all
> conditions. Class B broadband signal boosters are limited to 5 watts
> ERP
> for each authorized frequency that the booster is designed to amplify.
> (c) Class A narrowband boosters must meet the out-of-band emission
> limits of Sec. 90.209 for each narrowband channel that the booster is
> designed to amplify. Class B broadband signal boosters must meet the
> emission limits of Sec. 90.209 for frequencies outside of the
> booster's
> design passband.
> (d) Class B broadband signal boosters are permitted to be used
> only
> in confined or indoor areas such as buildings, tunnels, underground
> areas, etc., or in remote areas, i.e., areas where there is little or
> no
> risk of interference to other users.
> (e) The licensee is given authority to operate signal boosters
> without separate authorization from the Commission. Certificated
> equipment must be employed and the licensee must ensure that all
> applicable rule requirements are met.
> (f) Licensees employing either Class A narrowband or Class B
> broadband signal boosters as defined in Sec. 90.7 are responsible for
> correcting any harmful interference that the equipment may cause to
> other systems. Normal co-channel transmissions will not be considered
> as
> harmful interference. Licensees will be required to resolve
> interference
> problems pursuant to Sec. 90.173(b).
>
> [61 FR 31052, June 19, 1996, as amended at 63 FR 36610, July 7, 1998]
>
> Representative Number : TSR17

No the amp is legal as long as it's type accepted (for US and Canada).
It's the installation and operation by somone other than the licensee
is where it's illegal. The "end user" is not considered the licensee
and by FCC rules and the FCC reply shown below is not allowed to
deploy or operate one.

"BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> What are you implying? The Wilson Amp isn't legal?
> I don't understand your post.
>
>
> "MarkF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Offri" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...hreadid=378852
> > >
> > >
> > > "BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I got the bill today, it cost me $667.98
> > > > It works great so far.
> > > >
> > > > "BrianT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > We installed the 50dB Wilson Amp #804003 today.
> >
> >
> > I'll add this and just say that "buyer beware" and the end user is not
> > considered the licensee:
> >
> > You are receiving this email in response to your inquiry to the FCC on
> > 10/6/2003 12:39:56 PM.
> >
> > Thank you for contacting the FCC.
> >
> > 47 CFR 90.219 and 47 CFR 22.283 both include the same term to identify
> > who is eligible to utilize these devices, the licensee.
> >
> >
> > Dear FCC Representative,
> >
> > I am in search of the clarification of the FCC rule stated above on
> > the
> > ability of a private, non-FCC licensed individual, to install a signal
> > booster (aka Bi-Directional Amplifier) to amplify signals above 150
> > MHz
> > (specificially 800 and 1.9 GHz) inside of a private building. In my
> > interpretation of the FCC rule as I tried to explain to an individual
> > that the said installation of such a system can only be authorized
> > and/or
> > installed by a "licensee" holding a Part 90 or Part 22 license (or
> > their authorized sub-contractor) and he , as a private individual" is
> > not
> > allowed to freely install such a system as he is not the "licensee".
> >
> > This individual is under the impression that because the signal
> > booster
> > (BDA) is an un-regulated device he has the ability to install these
> > units without the concurrence of the Cellular/PCS providers without
> > their
> > knowledge. Of course we are at a blockage here as the manufacturers
> > of
> > these devices (specificially Andrew Corp.) have also advised him that
> > he doesn't need any type of authorization to install such a device to
> > amplify someone else's licensed channels.
> >
> > For your convenience I have cut and pasted the rule along with my
> > contact phone number below if you would like to speak directly with
> > me.
> >
> > Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> > FCC Rule:
> >
> > Sec. 90.219 Use of signal boosters.
> >
> > Licensees authorized to operate radio systems in the frequency
> > bands
> > above 150 MHz may employ signal boosters at fixed locations in
> > accordance with the following criteria:
> > (a) The amplified signal is retransmitted only on the exact
> > frequency(ies) of the originating base, fixed, mobile, or portable
> > station(s). The booster will fill in only weak signal areas and cannot
> > extend the system's normal signal coverage area.
> > (b) Class A narrowband signal boosters must be equipped with
> > automatic gain control circuitry which will limit the total effective
> > radiated power (ERP) of the unit to a maximum of 5 watts under all
> > conditions. Class B broadband signal boosters are limited to 5 watts
> > ERP
> > for each authorized frequency that the booster is designed to amplify.
> > (c) Class A narrowband boosters must meet the out-of-band emission
> > limits of Sec. 90.209 for each narrowband channel that the booster is
> > designed to amplify. Class B broadband signal boosters must meet the
> > emission limits of Sec. 90.209 for frequencies outside of the
> > booster's
> > design passband.
> > (d) Class B broadband signal boosters are permitted to be used
> > only
> > in confined or indoor areas such as buildings, tunnels, underground
> > areas, etc., or in remote areas, i.e., areas where there is little or
> > no
> > risk of interference to other users.
> > (e) The licensee is given authority to operate signal boosters
> > without separate authorization from the Commission. Certificated
> > equipment must be employed and the licensee must ensure that all
> > applicable rule requirements are met.
> > (f) Licensees employing either Class A narrowband or Class B
> > broadband signal boosters as defined in Sec. 90.7 are responsible for
> > correcting any harmful interference that the equipment may cause to
> > other systems. Normal co-channel transmissions will not be considered
> > as
> > harmful interference. Licensees will be required to resolve
> > interference
> > problems pursuant to Sec. 90.173(b).
> >
> > [61 FR 31052, June 19, 1996, as amended at 63 FR 36610, July 7, 1998]
> >
> > Representative Number : TSR17