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- 07-28-2003, 11:00 PM #1ScottGuest
OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
Can someone talk me into getting nextel?
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- 07-28-2003, 11:10 PM #2Jason LoweGuest
Re: new to nextel
No, I think if you are going to use the Walkie Talkies...wait until next
month when Verizon brings it out. They have better cellular service and
by far better prices. I had Nextel and I was paying $180 for 2
phones...now I pay $100 for 2 with double the minutes and extra
features!
"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
> think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
> incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
> Can someone talk me into getting nextel?
>
>
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- 07-29-2003, 08:16 AM #3SteveGuest
Re: new to nextel
Id say if you want to communcate with your buddies that just got
Nextel with that feature (direct connect) then it will be worth it.
The other guy said wait for Verizons PTT, BUT it wont be able to
direct connect Nextel phones, so that may pose a problem for you. Also
Verizons is really untested except for a few higher ups in the
company, so we dont know how solid it will be yet.
Just my
- 07-29-2003, 08:21 AM #4George BlanasGuest
Re: new to nextel
I disagree that Nextel is so much more expensive than Verizon. I have 3
Nextel phones with a total of 1500 min. mine has Online Plus, all have
unlimited DC, long distance, voice mail, etc. I'm paying $180/mo.
Verizon would be approx. the same. Look for the promo's, you can get a
great deal.
--
Cut the cord, go wireless!
[email protected] (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> No, I think if you are going to use the Walkie Talkies...wait until next
> month when Verizon brings it out. They have better cellular service and
> by far better prices. I had Nextel and I was paying $180 for 2
> phones...now I pay $100 for 2 with double the minutes and extra
> features!
>
> "Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
> > think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
> > incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
> > Can someone talk me into getting nextel?
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
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- 07-29-2003, 09:58 AM #5JamesGuest
Re: new to nextel
Keep in mind Jason is a Nextel hater and doesn't appear to have
anything good to say about them.
Some things to keep in mind about Nextel: (my oppinion)
1. Nextel is first to market, that is a costly road. Their prices are
higher, but many people are soon going to discover the shining star of
Verizon push-to-talk is going to fade as problems and slowness becomes
obvious. If anyone believes the Verizon PTT will perform as well or
better than Nextel, they'll be among the primary complainers as their
expectations are too high.
2. Verizon PTT nationwide? Not likely anytime soon.
3. As for Nextel, you need to watch the billing, I find consistent
problems with "accidenly" charging for various things. They're
usually good about crediting back their mistakes, but I have to catch
them and frequently do.
4. After you setup your service, going forward ebay for your phone
upgrades and accessories. Upgrading your phone with Nextel is
expensive and takes a contract signed in blood for a year.
5. Choose your rate plan wisely. They recently added two new plans
that are just nationwide DC added to one and NWDC and 2-way messaging
added to the other. If you pick the all-inclusive, I doubt you and
take either of those out because it's now part of your standard plan.
If you want the features, go with the lower cost package and add on.
That way you can delete the features later if you don't want them.
6. As for Nationwide DC, I'd save on the $10 a month and pay the 10
cents a minute. They bill DC by the second and using 100 minutes of
Nationwide DC isn't likely for a non-business user.
All in all I love the service, just wish the pricing and rate plans
were less slimy.
- 07-29-2003, 10:37 PM #6Jason LoweGuest
Re: new to nextel
That's funny. I still have double the minutes you have and half the
price with 2 phones!!!
[email protected] (George Blanas) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> I disagree that Nextel is so much more expensive than Verizon. I have 3
> Nextel phones with a total of 1500 min. mine has Online Plus, all have
> unlimited DC, long distance, voice mail, etc. I'm paying $180/mo.
> Verizon would be approx. the same. Look for the promo's, you can get a
> great deal.
>
> --
> Cut the cord, go wireless!
>
>
> [email protected] (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > No, I think if you are going to use the Walkie Talkies...wait until next
> > month when Verizon brings it out. They have better cellular service and
> > by far better prices. I had Nextel and I was paying $180 for 2
> > phones...now I pay $100 for 2 with double the minutes and extra
> > features!
> >
> > "Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> > <[email protected]>:
> > > OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
> > > think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
> > > incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
> > > Can someone talk me into getting nextel?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
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- 07-30-2003, 01:36 AM #7Jason McGeheeGuest
Re: new to nextel
Remember too. If you want to communicate among a high number of people
using PPT, Nextel has a very large, almost 100%, of it users have and use
PPT. This means your PPT can be used with your buddies and others your meet
along the way. Nextel coverage is not a extensive as Verizon. The last
time I check Verizon rates and plans were pretty high. Also, Verizon has
good coverage because they have a combination CDMA, PCS, and AMPS system.
The PPT is only going to be supported on the digital service, so out in the
bone-docks the PPT will not work.
Jason
- 07-30-2003, 10:39 AM #8JamesGuest
Re: new to nextel
I'll agree with Jason McGehee about PTT coverage. It's great in most
main-stream areas, however, Nextel does need to increase it's rual
base. They have an emphasis on this near the west coast. If,
however, you are not a back-road dweller, I haven't expierenced any
issues in most small or mid-size towns I travel through in PA, MD, or
DE.
- 07-30-2003, 11:54 AM #9SteveGuest
Re: new to nextel
I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
segment.
- 07-30-2003, 12:51 PM #10ErnestGuest
Re: new to nextel
As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO
"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
> thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
> see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
> avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
> them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
> this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
> dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
> order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
> VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
> segment.
- 07-30-2003, 01:49 PM #11Jay R. AshworthGuest
Re: new to nextel
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Steve <[email protected]> said to him:
> I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
> thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
> see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
> avaliable" error.
Unless they include "invisiblity", I wouldn't touch it. Whether my
phone is on is *not* an indicator of whether I'm "available"... at
least on Nextel, if you want to know if someone's on, you gotta
commit.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
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- 07-30-2003, 01:51 PM #12Jay R. AshworthGuest
Re: new to nextel
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Ernest <[email protected]> said to him:
> As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
> going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
> delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
> the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
> later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
> to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO
Let's note here that Motorola owns those patents, and a couple of
Nextel competitors prove that this wasn't the *only* thing keeping
people out of the market. Nextel is on non-cellular allocated
bandwidth... because they went out and spent the money to buy
existing SMR licenses market by market. (Nextel, in case you missed
it, is *not* a cellular phone... legally, or technically. It's
Specialized Mobile Radio. That's, among other things, why it's at
800MHz instead of 900.)
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
- 07-30-2003, 05:46 PM #13Jason LoweGuest
Re: new to nextel
There is no delay to connect. In fact, it is simultaneously when you
talk, Nextel does have a 1 second delay people forget about!
"Ernest" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<YlUVa.3701$f%[email protected]>:
> As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
> going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
> delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
> the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
> later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
> to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO
>
>
>
> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
> > thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
> > see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
> > avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
> > them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
> > this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
> > dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
> > order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
> > VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
> > segment.
>
>
>
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- 07-31-2003, 03:30 AM #14MArk FillaGuest
Re: new to nextel
When you think about how much infrastructure and A to D and D to A
conversions that your voice goes thru, one second is pretty damn good
IMHO especially when is goes Nationwide!
--
Mark KS4VT
[email protected] (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> There is no delay to connect. In fact, it is simultaneously when you
> talk, Nextel does have a 1 second delay people forget about!
>
> "Ernest" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <YlUVa.3701$f%[email protected]>:
> > As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
> > going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
> > delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
> > the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
> > later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
> > to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO
> >
> >
> >
> > "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
> > > thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
> > > see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
> > > avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
> > > them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
> > > this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
> > > dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
> > > order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
> > > VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
> > > segment.
> >
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
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- 07-31-2003, 05:08 AM #15MyselfGuest
Re: new to nextel
there is no standard "1-second delay." its true that sometimes things get
delayed, like they do in any system, but theres no 1 second delay.
"MArk Filla" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> When you think about how much infrastructure and A to D and D to A
> conversions that your voice goes thru, one second is pretty damn good
> IMHO especially when is goes Nationwide!
> --
> Mark KS4VT
>
>
> [email protected] (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > There is no delay to connect. In fact, it is simultaneously when you
> > talk, Nextel does have a 1 second delay people forget about!
> >
> > "Ernest" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> > <YlUVa.3701$f%[email protected]>:
> > > As far asI heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is
NOT
> > > going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system
has a
> > > delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't
know,
> > > the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10
years
> > > later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect
Verizon
> > > to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
> > > > thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you
will
> > > > see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
> > > > avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I
use
> > > > them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
> > > > this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
> > > > dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
> > > > order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel
or
> > > > VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
> > > > segment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
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