NEWS: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!

Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied recent
merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move would
create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.

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I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
merger/aquisition.


"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
>
> Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
> Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
> news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
> year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
> merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
> Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied
recent
> merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
> are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move
would
> create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
>
> SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
>
Required)http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...d3r5,gvx7,5kmr
> ,bqzq
>
> Visit Wireless World at http://wirelessway.blogspot.com for the latest in
> Wireless Technology News and Info! Free Drawing for Aluminum Palm /Clie
> case!!
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>
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I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
merger/aquisition.


"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
>
> Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
> Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
> news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
> year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
> merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
> Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied
recent
> merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
> are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move
would
> create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
>
> SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
>
Required)http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...d3r5,gvx7,5kmr
> ,bqzq
>
> Visit Wireless World at http://wirelessway.blogspot.com for the latest in
> Wireless Technology News and Info! Free Drawing for Aluminum Palm /Clie
> case!!
>
>
>

Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
National companies
Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
degrading service levels.
But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
combined.


"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
>
> Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
> Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
> news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
> year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
> merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
> Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied
recent
> merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
> are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move
would
> create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
>
> SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
>
Required)http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...d3r5,gvx7,5kmr
> ,bqzq
>
> Visit Wireless World at http://wirelessway.blogspot.com for the latest in
> Wireless Technology News and Info! Free Drawing for Aluminum Palm /Clie
> case!!
>
>
>

Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
National companies
Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
degrading service levels.
But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
combined.


"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
>
> Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
> Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
> news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
> year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
> merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
> Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied
recent
> merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
> are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move
would
> create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
>
> SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
>
Required)http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...d3r5,gvx7,5kmr
> ,bqzq
>
> Visit Wireless World at http://wirelessway.blogspot.com for the latest in
> Wireless Technology News and Info! Free Drawing for Aluminum Palm /Clie
> case!!
>
>
>

"Bill Roland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:6pCvb.3241$Ac3.784@lakeread01...
> I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
> merger/aquisition.

The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
least two competitors.

If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
out of its misery,
if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
number portability.

"Bill Roland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:6pCvb.3241$Ac3.784@lakeread01...
> I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
> merger/aquisition.

The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
least two competitors.

If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
out of its misery,
if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
number portability.

Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
> Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
> National companies
> Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
> degrading service levels.
> But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
> combined.

I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
a CDMA phone from Verizon.

AD

Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
> Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
> National companies
> Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
> degrading service levels.
> But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
> combined.

I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
a CDMA phone from Verizon.

AD

Steven M. Scharf wrote:
> "Bill Roland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:6pCvb.3241$Ac3.784@lakeread01...
>
>>I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
>>merger/aquisition.
>
>
> The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
> least two competitors.
>
> If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
> out of its misery,
> if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
> number portability.

Actually, the Verizon/Sprint would be more complicated than one would
think. Verizon Communications would want to remain in control, but in
the event of a Verizon Wireless/Sprint PCS merger, if Vodafone acquired
Sprint PCS to contribute to the venture, it would now have control of
Verizon Wireless. If that happened, it would probably become Vodafone,
and a switch to from CDMA2000 1x EV-DO to W-CDMA would probably happen.
Plus, I think a huge overlay of GSM would happen.

Now, for a Cingular/ATTWS merger, it might not be as complicated. There
doesn't seem to be the tensions between SBC and BellSouth that there are
between Verizon Communications and Vodafone. I'm not sure how Cingular
would divvy up assets, whether between SBC and BellSouth, or whether
AT&T would come as a third player in the Cingular venture...

AD

Steven M. Scharf wrote:
> "Bill Roland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:6pCvb.3241$Ac3.784@lakeread01...
>
>>I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
>>merger/aquisition.
>
>
> The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
> least two competitors.
>
> If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
> out of its misery,
> if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
> number portability.

Actually, the Verizon/Sprint would be more complicated than one would
think. Verizon Communications would want to remain in control, but in
the event of a Verizon Wireless/Sprint PCS merger, if Vodafone acquired
Sprint PCS to contribute to the venture, it would now have control of
Verizon Wireless. If that happened, it would probably become Vodafone,
and a switch to from CDMA2000 1x EV-DO to W-CDMA would probably happen.
Plus, I think a huge overlay of GSM would happen.

Now, for a Cingular/ATTWS merger, it might not be as complicated. There
doesn't seem to be the tensions between SBC and BellSouth that there are
between Verizon Communications and Vodafone. I'm not sure how Cingular
would divvy up assets, whether between SBC and BellSouth, or whether
AT&T would come as a third player in the Cingular venture...

AD

> I live in a Western Wireless market, and I have heard rumours that
> Cingular was interested in Western Wireless, but that Verizon Wireless
> took legal action against it because of spectrum. Western Wireless
> would make a good addition to any of the larger carriers.
>
> The feds might allow an AT&T Wireless / Cingular merger. With rumours
> that AT&T wants to change its name, and AT&T degrading services, it just
> might be possible. Plus, AT&T operates in many of the same markets that

Actually, WW and Cingular would be a good marriage. There's no problem with
bandwith because WW and Cingular do NOT compete in most markets. There are
13 states in which Cingular has no coverage at all. WW was the company who
started VoiceStream (yes, they started it)

In those 13 states, WW has a HUGE footprint and could easily be a great
target for Cingular (although the population is primarily rural), but would
give them access to their own network and not paying WW for roaming (And WW
is running 3 standards now, that's gotta eat a lot of unused bandwidth)

> I live in a Western Wireless market, and I have heard rumours that
> Cingular was interested in Western Wireless, but that Verizon Wireless
> took legal action against it because of spectrum. Western Wireless
> would make a good addition to any of the larger carriers.
>
> The feds might allow an AT&T Wireless / Cingular merger. With rumours
> that AT&T wants to change its name, and AT&T degrading services, it just
> might be possible. Plus, AT&T operates in many of the same markets that

Actually, WW and Cingular would be a good marriage. There's no problem with
bandwith because WW and Cingular do NOT compete in most markets. There are
13 states in which Cingular has no coverage at all. WW was the company who
started VoiceStream (yes, they started it)

In those 13 states, WW has a HUGE footprint and could easily be a great
target for Cingular (although the population is primarily rural), but would
give them access to their own network and not paying WW for roaming (And WW
is running 3 standards now, that's gotta eat a lot of unused bandwidth)

You line in an area that is an exception....

In most areas of the country it is the EXACT opposite.
Example: out west Cingular SUCKS really badly.
VZW kicks their ass, hands down. NO contest.


"Aboutdakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
> > Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
> > National companies
> > Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
> > degrading service levels.
> > But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
> > combined.
>
> I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
> sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
> Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
> have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
> a CDMA phone from Verizon.
>
> AD
>

You line in an area that is an exception....

In most areas of the country it is the EXACT opposite.
Example: out west Cingular SUCKS really badly.
VZW kicks their ass, hands down. NO contest.


"Aboutdakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
> > Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
> > National companies
> > Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
> > degrading service levels.
> > But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
> > combined.
>
> I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
> sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
> Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
> have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
> a CDMA phone from Verizon.
>
> AD
>