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  1. #1
    Anton Spaans
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    Maybe other people might be interested, but finally I got it working. I can access the Internet on my Nokia3650 through my PC, using BlueTooth. This'll avoid some of the expensive GPRS charges form AT&T ... and it is FAST too!
    I tested it whether it really used the PC for internet access and not AT&T GPRS instead: I pulled the plug on my dsl-modem and connections on the phone failed. I checked the GPRS Log on my phone: nothing got logged. Good.

    Note that this won't work with every application on your phone. For example, AgileMessenger refuses to work with a BlueTooth connection. However, Doris Browser and SMSXtender worked fine this way.

    The examples are done under Windows-XP Pro and the Belkin BlueTooth drivers.

    In this post I'll assume that your BlueTooth on your PC is setup correctly, i.e. you can make a proper Serial Port connection, mRouter is working and you can use Nokia PC Suite. To do this with Belkin software, look at this setup guide: http://web.belkin.com/support/downlo...ad=1123&lang=1

    Accessing global Internet (or WAP) sites on your phone through your PC

    Initial setup on your PC:

    Don't change anything on your PC's BlueTooth setup. Leave it all alone if your BlueTooth is working OK. However, check if these items do exist and are OK:

    Under the 'My Network Places', 'Network and Dial-up Connections' or 'Network Connections' folder (different Windows versions call it differently), check if these adapters exist and enabled (not 'not plugged in' or 'disabled'):

    a.. Your main LAN/Dial-up connection connecting you to the Internet. Let's call this network-connection "LAN Adapter".
    b.. A BlueTooth LAN Access Server Driver network-connection. Let's call this network-adapter "BlueTooth Adapter".
    Check the BlueTooth device-name of your PC. Open the BlueTooth Configuration through your 'My Bluetooth Places' folder. Go to the "General" tab and look at the "Computer Name" field. That is the BlueTooth identity of your PC. I assume the name is "YourPC".

    Initial setup on your Nokia 3650:

    First check this:

    You already have your PC paired up with your phone from previous communications. Go to:

    Menu --> Connectivity --> Bluetooth --> Paired Devices (2nd tab):

    You'll see your paired devices. One of it is your PC. It has a name. This is the name is your PC's BlueTooth identity. In this case it was "YourPC".

    Then make sure you have a proper Access Point to use BlueTooth GPRS. If not there, make a new one:

    Menu --> Tools --> Settings --> Connections --> Access Points

    Make a new Access Point with this data:

    Connection Name: BlueTooth GPRS (any name you like to identify this connection)

    Data Bearer: GPRS

    Access Point Name: YourPC (Your PC's BlueTooth identity. It is case sensitive)

    User Name: None

    Prompt Password: No

    Password: (no password)

    Authentication: Normal

    Gateway IP address: 0.0.0.0

    Back out and exit. Your access point has been created.



    Making a connection from your phone to your PC:

    First make a connection on your PC.

    Connect to your phone's 'Bluetooth Serial Port' from 'My Bluetooth Places'. Wait until the mRouter shows a working connection. I was hoping this step was not necessary, but I had to do this first before I could use my phone through the BlueTooth Adapter.

    On your phone, open up an application that needs Internet access (I tested with Doris Browser and SMSXtender). When it asks for an access point, select BlueTooth GPRS. And voila, it works. (at least it did for me J ).



    Accessing your local web-server on your PC or on your local network

    Suppose you have a local web or WAP site running on your PC or local network. Typing in http://localhost/ on your phone won't work (because your phone is not running a web-server). In addition to the setup described above, you have to do something extra. If you don't have a local web-server running, stop reading. you're all set J

    To make it work, you have to access your BlueTooth Adapter through its IP address. Good luck figuring that out. The IP address is dynamically allocated (APIPA addressing, see http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...c_tcp_ssqs.asp) and can have any value from 169.254.0.1 to 169.254.255.254.

    I did not want to fiddle with the Internet TCP/IP properties of the BlueTooth Adapter itself (who know what you'd mess up). Instead I made a Network Bridge to this BlueTooth Adapter. Then I configured this Network Bridge to have a know IP address:

    Select your LAN Adapter and your BlueTooth Adapter network-connections. Make a Bridge Connection between the two of them. If all is done, you'll see a "Network Bridge (MAC Bridge Miniport)" network-connection appear. Open the properties of this Network Bridge.

    Go to the "General" tab. In the Adapters list, make sure only your BlueTooth Adapter is selected. Then go to the "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and open its properties. Select 'Use the following IP address:"

    IP Address: 10.0.0.111 (or any 10.0.0.xxx address that is free)

    Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

    Leave the other settings alone and get out of the "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" properties.

    Then go to the "Authentication" tab of your Network Bridge properties. Make sure no authentication is selected... only confuses things.


    Back out of it entirely and let Windows do its work.

    This will allow your phone (when using Doris Browser, for example) to access your local web site through http://10.0.0.111/. Note that your web-server may think that the connection from your phone is an outside connection! Authentication on your web-server should handle this properly.




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  2. #2
    mikey
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    Re: Setup: Using Bluetooth to browse Internet on your Nokia 3650 through your PC

    Hi Anton
    Thanks for that info.
    It worked a treat on my 3650.
    I use a broadband and there were no big problems except that every 2-3 seconds it kept asking me to reconnect to my access point.
    I solved it by going into the settings and turning off ask for access point to load pages.
    By the way I use just a standard USB dongle. Not a major make.
    mikey

    "Anton Spaans" <aspaans at(noSPAM) smarttime dot(noSPAM) com> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Maybe other people might be interested, but finally I got it working. I can access the Internet on my Nokia3650 through my PC, using BlueTooth. This'll avoid some of the expensive GPRS charges form AT&T .... and it is FAST too!
    I tested it whether it really used the PC for internet access and not AT&T GPRS instead: I pulled the plug on my dsl-modem and connections on the phone failed. I checked the GPRS Log on my phone: nothing got logged. Good.

    Note that this won't work with every application on your phone. For example, AgileMessenger refuses to work with a BlueTooth connection. However, Doris Browser and SMSXtender worked fine this way.

    The examples are done under Windows-XP Pro and the Belkin BlueTooth drivers.

    In this post I'll assume that your BlueTooth on your PC is setup correctly, i.e. you can make a proper Serial Port connection, mRouter is working and you can use Nokia PC Suite. To do this with Belkin software, look at this setup guide: http://web.belkin.com/support/downlo...ad=1123&lang=1

    Accessing global Internet (or WAP) sites on your phone through your PC

    Initial setup on your PC:

    Don't change anything on your PC's BlueTooth setup. Leave it all alone if your BlueTooth is working OK. However, check if these items do exist and are OK:

    Under the 'My Network Places', 'Network and Dial-up Connections' or 'Network Connections' folder (different Windows versions call it differently), check if these adapters exist and enabled (not 'not plugged in' or 'disabled'):

    a.. Your main LAN/Dial-up connection connecting you to the Internet. Let's call this network-connection "LAN Adapter".
    b.. A BlueTooth LAN Access Server Driver network-connection. Let's call this network-adapter "BlueTooth Adapter".
    Check the BlueTooth device-name of your PC. Open the BlueTooth Configuration through your 'My Bluetooth Places' folder. Go to the "General" tab and look at the "Computer Name" field. That is the BlueTooth identity of your PC. I assume the name is "YourPC".

    Initial setup on your Nokia 3650:

    First check this:

    You already have your PC paired up with your phone from previous communications. Go to:

    Menu --> Connectivity --> Bluetooth --> Paired Devices (2nd tab):

    You'll see your paired devices. One of it is your PC. It has a name. This is the name is your PC's BlueTooth identity. In this case it was "YourPC".

    Then make sure you have a proper Access Point to use BlueTooth GPRS. If not there, make a new one:

    Menu --> Tools --> Settings --> Connections --> Access Points

    Make a new Access Point with this data:

    Connection Name: BlueTooth GPRS (any name you like to identify this connection)

    Data Bearer: GPRS

    Access Point Name: YourPC (Your PC's BlueTooth identity. It is case sensitive)

    User Name: None

    Prompt Password: No

    Password: (no password)

    Authentication: Normal

    Gateway IP address: 0.0.0.0

    Back out and exit. Your access point has been created.



    Making a connection from your phone to your PC:

    First make a connection on your PC.

    Connect to your phone's 'Bluetooth Serial Port' from 'My Bluetooth Places'. Wait until the mRouter shows a working connection. I was hoping this step was not necessary, but I had to do this first before I could use my phone through the BlueTooth Adapter.

    On your phone, open up an application that needs Internet access (I tested with Doris Browser and SMSXtender). When it asks for an access point, select BlueTooth GPRS. And voila, it works. (at least it did for me J ).



    Accessing your local web-server on your PC or on your local network

    Suppose you have a local web or WAP site running on your PC or local network. Typing in http://localhost/ on your phone won't work (because your phone is not running a web-server). In addition to the setup described above, you have to do something extra. If you don't have a local web-server running, stop reading. you're all set J

    To make it work, you have to access your BlueTooth Adapter through its IP address. Good luck figuring that out. The IP address is dynamically allocated (APIPA addressing, see http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...c_tcp_ssqs.asp) and can have any value from 169.254.0.1 to 169.254.255.254.

    I did not want to fiddle with the Internet TCP/IP properties of the BlueTooth Adapter itself (who know what you'd mess up). Instead I made a Network Bridge to this BlueTooth Adapter. Then I configured this Network Bridge to have a know IP address:

    Select your LAN Adapter and your BlueTooth Adapter network-connections. Make a Bridge Connection between the two of them. If all is done, you'll see a "Network Bridge (MAC Bridge Miniport)" network-connection appear. Open the properties of this Network Bridge.

    Go to the "General" tab. In the Adapters list, make sure only your BlueTooth Adapter is selected. Then go to the "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and open its properties. Select 'Use the following IP address:"

    IP Address: 10.0.0.111 (or any 10.0.0.xxx address that is free)

    Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

    Leave the other settings alone and get out of the "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" properties.

    Then go to the "Authentication" tab of your Network Bridge properties. Make sure no authentication is selected... only confuses things.


    Back out of it entirely and let Windows do its work.

    This will allow your phone (when using Doris Browser, for example) to access your local web site through http://10.0.0.111/. Note that your web-server may think that the connection from your phone is an outside connection! Authentication on your web-server should handle this properly.

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