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- 02-20-2004, 09:03 PM #1Bob SmithGuest
Interesting article I noticed, under Tech News on my home page. It puts the
recent merger between Cingular & ATTWS in perspective. This article also
mentioned that Verizon offered some kind of deal to SPCS in January, which
was declined, by an unnamed source.
http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D80RBCJG0.html
Bob
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- 02-20-2004, 09:34 PM #2Scott StephensonGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Interesting article I noticed, under Tech News on my home page. It puts
the
> recent merger between Cingular & ATTWS in perspective. This article also
> mentioned that Verizon offered some kind of deal to SPCS in January, which
> was declined, by an unnamed source.
>
> http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D80RBCJG0.html
>
> Bob
>
>
Interesting, because that's about the same time that the rumor on the street
was that in order to get PCS, you'd have to buy the whole corporation.
- 02-21-2004, 03:36 PM #3Guest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
So..... Verizon was knocking on Sprints door! Hmmmm
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Interesting article I noticed, under Tech News on my home page. It puts
the
> recent merger between Cingular & ATTWS in perspective. This article also
> mentioned that Verizon offered some kind of deal to SPCS in January, which
> was declined, by an unnamed source.
>
> http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D80RBCJG0.html
>
> Bob
>
>
- 02-22-2004, 06:03 AM #4Robert M.Guest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
>
>
> "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Interesting article I noticed, under Tech News on my home page. It puts
> the
> > recent merger between Cingular & ATTWS in perspective. This article also
> > mentioned that Verizon offered some kind of deal to SPCS in January, which
> > was declined, by an unnamed source.
> >
> > http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D80RBCJG0.html
> >
> > Bob
Interesting URL. It says in part:
" Nextel's 12.9 million subscribers pay among the highest monthly bills
in the wireless industry, an average of $69 per month in 2003. And the
company's "churn" rate, a measure of how many of the customers close
their accounts, averaged just 1.6 percent per month last year.
By contrast, Verizon Wireless' 37.5 million customers generated an
average monthly bill of just $49, though its churn rate was an
impressive 1.8 percent. Cingular showed an average monthly bill of $51
with a churn rate of 2.7 percent, while the numbers at AT&T Wireless
were $60 a month and 2.6 percent churn. "
==============
Sprint PCS by comparison in it slatest filing with the SEC listed:
http://www.sprint.com/sprint/ir/fn/qe/4q03.pdf
Page 6 - a monthly churn of 2.7 % in Q4 - {poor},
and " the PCS Group experienced an increase in churn in December
following WLNP implementation "
monthly bill per user of $62 (not per number, per user) - {good}
and a cost to acquire a new customer of $425 - {poor}
({good} and {poor} are my own editorial comments.)
as compares:
http://news.vzw.com/investor/4thqand...sultstoben.pdf
Says Verizons Q4 churn was 1.68%; better than the 1.8% full year churn
=============================================
One always wonders whether every company uses the == EXACT == same
methodlogy of calculating these things, or from time to time slightly
changes their metrics so as to make their numbers trend in the desired
direction.
Sprint PCS interestingly talks about their monthly churn as Quarterly
rate of churn, which has mislead some in here to think the churn rates
are for a quarter rather than monthly numbers.
- 02-22-2004, 07:58 PM #5planeGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> >
> > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Interesting article I noticed, under Tech News on my home page. It puts
> the
> > > recent merger between Cingular & ATTWS in perspective. This article also
> > > mentioned that Verizon offered some kind of deal to SPCS in January, which
> > > was declined, by an unnamed source.
> > >
> > > http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D80RBCJG0.html
> > >
> > > Bob
>
>
>
> Interesting URL. It says in part:
>
> " Nextel's 12.9 million subscribers pay among the highest monthly bills
> in the wireless industry, an average of $69 per month in 2003. And the
> company's "churn" rate, a measure of how many of the customers close
> their accounts, averaged just 1.6 percent per month last year.
>
> By contrast, Verizon Wireless' 37.5 million customers generated an
> average monthly bill of just $49, though its churn rate was an
> impressive 1.8 percent. Cingular showed an average monthly bill of $51
> with a churn rate of 2.7 percent, while the numbers at AT&T Wireless
> were $60 a month and 2.6 percent churn. "
>
> ==============
>
> Sprint PCS by comparison in it slatest filing with the SEC listed:
>
> http://www.sprint.com/sprint/ir/fn/qe/4q03.pdf
>
> Page 6 - a monthly churn of 2.7 % in Q4 - {poor},
> and " the PCS Group experienced an increase in churn in December
> following WLNP implementation "
>
> monthly bill per user of $62 (not per number, per user) - {good}
> and a cost to acquire a new customer of $425 - {poor}
>
> ({good} and {poor} are my own editorial comments.)
>
>
> as compares:
> http://news.vzw.com/investor/4thqand...sultstoben.pdf
>
> Says Verizons Q4 churn was 1.68%; better than the 1.8% full year churn
> =============================================
>
> One always wonders whether every company uses the == EXACT == same
> methodlogy of calculating these things, or from time to time slightly
> changes their metrics so as to make their numbers trend in the desired
> direction.
>
> Sprint PCS interestingly talks about their monthly churn as Quarterly
> rate of churn, which has mislead some in here to think the churn rates
> are for a quarter rather than monthly numbers.
Interesting info; have you all noticed how much nextel is advertising
lately-virtually every day in usa today, and now the nascar race
thing.
With both verizon and sprint now offering at least a similar ptt
service, I would imagine they are really desperate to try to capture
whatever market they can but it would seem nextel can only hope to
capture whatever comercial business in or near the large metro area,
where their ptt will work, since their cell coverage away fromthe
metro area's seems spotty
- 02-22-2004, 08:54 PM #6Scott StephensonGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
"plane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Interesting info; have you all noticed how much nextel is advertising
> lately-virtually every day in usa today, and now the nascar race
> thing.
>
> With both verizon and sprint now offering at least a similar ptt
> service, I would imagine they are really desperate to try to capture
> whatever market they can but it would seem nextel can only hope to
> capture whatever comercial business in or near the large metro area,
> where their ptt will work, since their cell coverage away fromthe
> metro area's seems spotty
I think what you are seeing is Nextel finally trying to get into the
consumer market. Most of the business market is pretty provided for, and
Nextel is now marketing to the consumer. I don't think that commercials of
Junior scoring a touchdownin his car, or a face plate with his car colors on
it are intended for the corporate boardroom.
The coverage is an issue, but they announced a pretty aggressive buildout
for 2004, and its possible that they could start providing quality coverage
by the middle of next year, if they are serious about building out. Keep in
mind that they are also the only national provider that doesn't have have a
big telecom backing them up, and unlike a fair number of their competitors,
they are profitable.
- 02-22-2004, 09:24 PM #7Scott NelsonGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
Not to mention the fact that, iDen isn't exactly known worldwide for roaming
capabilities.
It would be better for them to get some kind of GAIT phone and partner with
a GSM carrier in the US and do like SprintPCS does and charge .50 a minute
for roaming or an FC&A plan like Sprint does.
It takes a lot of money to build out a network and like DSL, Cable TV, etc.,
you have to be able to make the investment pay for itself over time.
Carriers know that the MSA's is where the $$$ is.
RSA's ( Rural Service Areas ) don't really have a big issue of high minute
usage and are harder to pay off.
The A and B bands for years, pushed the "we have better coverage, blah blah
blah" schpeal, way before the other PCS/SMR carriers came on the scene. If
Sprint, Verizon or one of the other carriers with more coverage make a PPT
system that kick but feature-wise and has more coverage, Nextel has no
choice but to offer lower plan rates or some other desperate way to keep
customers.
Unless Nextel makes it's system shine better than Verizon or Sprint, and get
some kind of roaming in the US, Nextel will slowly start to lose
non-business consumers. Unlimited incoming is great, unless you can't get
any signal, then it's pretty much a 'brick' with a battery. ;-)
Towers/sites, spectrum and Land rental to put the towers on, techs to fix
the towers/system, etc all add up.
Nextel has some huge growing pains ahead.
Of course, if you live in a big city and never go anywhere, all of this is
academic anyway.
I.....must ....stop...rambling now........ ;-)
Scotty
"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "plane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> > Interesting info; have you all noticed how much nextel is advertising
> > lately-virtually every day in usa today, and now the nascar race
> > thing.
> >
> > With both verizon and sprint now offering at least a similar ptt
> > service, I would imagine they are really desperate to try to capture
> > whatever market they can but it would seem nextel can only hope to
> > capture whatever comercial business in or near the large metro area,
> > where their ptt will work, since their cell coverage away fromthe
> > metro area's seems spotty
>
> I think what you are seeing is Nextel finally trying to get into the
> consumer market. Most of the business market is pretty provided for, and
> Nextel is now marketing to the consumer. I don't think that commercials
of
> Junior scoring a touchdownin his car, or a face plate with his car colors
on
> it are intended for the corporate boardroom.
>
> The coverage is an issue, but they announced a pretty aggressive buildout
> for 2004, and its possible that they could start providing quality
coverage
> by the middle of next year, if they are serious about building out. Keep
in
> mind that they are also the only national provider that doesn't have have
a
> big telecom backing them up, and unlike a fair number of their
competitors,
> they are profitable.
>
>
- 02-22-2004, 10:34 PM #8Steven J SobolGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
Scott Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not to mention the fact that, iDen isn't exactly known worldwide for roaming
> capabilities.
My father has a Motorola i95, which roams just fine on GSM networks.
(Obviously, it's a hybrid iDEN/GSM handset. It is one of the few Nextel
phones that requires a SIM.)
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- 02-22-2004, 11:09 PM #9Scott StephensonGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
"Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Not to mention the fact that, iDen isn't exactly known worldwide for
roaming
> capabilities.
> It would be better for them to get some kind of GAIT phone and partner
with
> a GSM carrier in the US and do like SprintPCS does and charge .50 a minute
> for roaming or an FC&A plan like Sprint does.
>
> It takes a lot of money to build out a network and like DSL, Cable TV,
etc.,
> you have to be able to make the investment pay for itself over time.
> Carriers know that the MSA's is where the $$$ is.
> RSA's ( Rural Service Areas ) don't really have a big issue of high minute
> usage and are harder to pay off.
> The A and B bands for years, pushed the "we have better coverage, blah
blah
> blah" schpeal, way before the other PCS/SMR carriers came on the scene. If
> Sprint, Verizon or one of the other carriers with more coverage make a PPT
> system that kick but feature-wise and has more coverage, Nextel has no
> choice but to offer lower plan rates or some other desperate way to keep
> customers.
> Unless Nextel makes it's system shine better than Verizon or Sprint, and
get
> some kind of roaming in the US, Nextel will slowly start to lose
> non-business consumers. Unlimited incoming is great, unless you can't get
> any signal, then it's pretty much a 'brick' with a battery. ;-)
> Towers/sites, spectrum and Land rental to put the towers on, techs to fix
> the towers/system, etc all add up.
> Nextel has some huge growing pains ahead.
> Of course, if you live in a big city and never go anywhere, all of this is
> academic anyway.
>
All very valid points, with the lack of roaming to expand coverage probably
being the most important. And just when I get ready to agree with all of
these points, I see an article just like the one that started this thread.
They have consistantly had the lowest churn in the industry for well over a
year, and they get the most money out of their customers by quite a large
margin. Their customer base has grown by around 40% in the last two years,
and it would appear that portability has no effect. All of these point to a
happy and loyal customer base, which makes me wonder just how bad the
coverage issue really is. Could it be an urban myth?
With that said, they have done some interesting thins in the last year that
might be their 'new advantage'. They bought Boost Mobile and plan to start
rolling it out nationally. An interesting brand that is targeted and
marketed to the younger market, which could tap the most desired remaining
demographic out there. A "cool" company owned prepaid brand (which is not
currently reported in subscriber count) could lead the way to a huge number
of new subscribers And last month, they announced a test of wireless data
with speeds that are supposed to rival cable. It has been described as 4G
technology, and from this seat, it appears to be a goo indication of the
future of this industry. Ask any CEO of a major cellular provider where
they want the business to go, and I'll bet you get the same answer- wireless
data. It may be that with this Flarion technology Nextel is testing, they
are jumping to the head of the class in this arena. This may be their new
competitive advantage.
If nothing else, they have proven tobe very cautious and slow in rolling out
new technology, so it may be a couple of years before either of these really
reap benefits. Until then, they can try to enter the comsumer market as is.
Being profitable doesn't hurt.
- 02-22-2004, 11:14 PM #10Scott StephensonGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Scott Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Not to mention the fact that, iDen isn't exactly known worldwide for
roaming
> > capabilities.
>
> My father has a Motorola i95, which roams just fine on GSM networks.
> (Obviously, it's a hybrid iDEN/GSM handset. It is one of the few Nextel
> phones that requires a SIM.)
>
They are all SIM based now- its been a couple of years now- I think the
i2000 was the first.
- 02-23-2004, 12:13 AM #11Scott NelsonGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
I knew they had GSM abroad. Just no roaming agreements with CONUS GSM
Carriers.
It would be a good thing for them to do a roaming deal with Cingular.
Scotty
"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Scott Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Not to mention the fact that, iDen isn't exactly known worldwide for
roaming
> > capabilities.
>
> My father has a Motorola i95, which roams just fine on GSM networks.
> (Obviously, it's a hybrid iDEN/GSM handset. It is one of the few Nextel
> phones that requires a SIM.)
>
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- 02-23-2004, 12:24 AM #12Scott NelsonGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
Very true.
Churn for business users though, are usually a lot lower than regular
non-business customers who want seemingly stupid things for free.
Plus the fact that Nextel doesn't have CS support open past a certain time,
which for the residential market would be a big thing.
It's a hard road to pick up the non-business user and keep them happy.
Sprint, on the opposite side, has to learn how to court the business user
so, they also have a hard road ahead as well.
Business users typically don't move to another carrier over a free Jabra ear
phone or some other prize.
They are usually concerned with "can I get a hold of John Doe for a service
call" or some other service related thing.
Whole different paradigm for both companies.
It will be interesting to see what happens during the next few years. ;-)
Scotty
"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Not to mention the fact that, iDen isn't exactly known worldwide for
> roaming
> > capabilities.
> > It would be better for them to get some kind of GAIT phone and partner
> with
> > a GSM carrier in the US and do like SprintPCS does and charge .50 a
minute
> > for roaming or an FC&A plan like Sprint does.
> >
> > It takes a lot of money to build out a network and like DSL, Cable TV,
> etc.,
> > you have to be able to make the investment pay for itself over time.
> > Carriers know that the MSA's is where the $$$ is.
> > RSA's ( Rural Service Areas ) don't really have a big issue of high
minute
> > usage and are harder to pay off.
> > The A and B bands for years, pushed the "we have better coverage, blah
> blah
> > blah" schpeal, way before the other PCS/SMR carriers came on the scene.
If
> > Sprint, Verizon or one of the other carriers with more coverage make a
PPT
> > system that kick but feature-wise and has more coverage, Nextel has no
> > choice but to offer lower plan rates or some other desperate way to keep
> > customers.
> > Unless Nextel makes it's system shine better than Verizon or Sprint, and
> get
> > some kind of roaming in the US, Nextel will slowly start to lose
> > non-business consumers. Unlimited incoming is great, unless you can't
get
> > any signal, then it's pretty much a 'brick' with a battery. ;-)
> > Towers/sites, spectrum and Land rental to put the towers on, techs to
fix
> > the towers/system, etc all add up.
> > Nextel has some huge growing pains ahead.
> > Of course, if you live in a big city and never go anywhere, all of this
is
> > academic anyway.
> >
>
> All very valid points, with the lack of roaming to expand coverage
probably
> being the most important. And just when I get ready to agree with all of
> these points, I see an article just like the one that started this thread.
> They have consistantly had the lowest churn in the industry for well over
a
> year, and they get the most money out of their customers by quite a large
> margin. Their customer base has grown by around 40% in the last two
years,
> and it would appear that portability has no effect. All of these point to
a
> happy and loyal customer base, which makes me wonder just how bad the
> coverage issue really is. Could it be an urban myth?
>
> With that said, they have done some interesting thins in the last year
that
> might be their 'new advantage'. They bought Boost Mobile and plan to
start
> rolling it out nationally. An interesting brand that is targeted and
> marketed to the younger market, which could tap the most desired remaining
> demographic out there. A "cool" company owned prepaid brand (which is not
> currently reported in subscriber count) could lead the way to a huge
number
> of new subscribers And last month, they announced a test of wireless data
> with speeds that are supposed to rival cable. It has been described as 4G
> technology, and from this seat, it appears to be a goo indication of the
> future of this industry. Ask any CEO of a major cellular provider where
> they want the business to go, and I'll bet you get the same answer-
wireless
> data. It may be that with this Flarion technology Nextel is testing, they
> are jumping to the head of the class in this arena. This may be their new
> competitive advantage.
>
> If nothing else, they have proven tobe very cautious and slow in rolling
out
> new technology, so it may be a couple of years before either of these
really
> reap benefits. Until then, they can try to enter the comsumer market as
is.
> Being profitable doesn't hurt.
>
>
- 02-23-2004, 09:31 AM #13Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
Scott Stephenson wrote:
> Interesting, because that's about the same time that the rumor on the street
> was that in order to get PCS, you'd have to buy the whole corporation.
Oh, that's not a rumor. I honestly don't know what AT&T was thinking by
spinning off AT&T wireless. Landline telephone service is in decline,
as the "glory days" of ILECs when people wanted more than one phone line
for voice, dial-up data and fax services are long gone. Anyone with a
brain knows that for a little more than the price of a comprehensive
long distance package, they can get a cell phone plan that includes
domestic LD. And data services are still feeling the pinch... we still
have a huge fiber glut in the US. The only true growth sector is
wireless. Sprint would be stupid to sell off their wireless holdings,
without putting the rest of the company up for sale with it.
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- 02-23-2004, 10:03 AM #14John CummingsGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
"Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> I knew they had GSM abroad. Just no roaming agreements with CONUS GSM
> Carriers.
> It would be a good thing for them to do a roaming deal with Cingular.
>
> Scotty
The dual-mode phones like the i2000 have included
900 MHz GSM along with 800 MHz SMR iDEN. No USA
GSM service provider offers 900 MHz, only 800
and 1900 MHz.
John C.
- 02-23-2004, 10:30 AM #15Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Size Is Not Biggest Cell Phone Factor
Scott Stephenson wrote:
>
> All very valid points, with the lack of roaming to expand coverage probably
> being the most important. And just when I get ready to agree with all of
> these points, I see an article just like the one that started this thread.
> They have consistantly had the lowest churn in the industry for well over a
> year, and they get the most money out of their customers by quite a large
> margin. Their customer base has grown by around 40% in the last two years,
> and it would appear that portability has no effect. All of these point to a
> happy and loyal customer base, which makes me wonder just how bad the
> coverage issue really is. Could it be an urban myth?
No, it most certainly isn't. Nextel's bread and butter is their
business and corporate client base. The low churn is easily explained
by the reluctance of businesses to write off equipment they've invested
in and purchase new equipment in order to change carriers... not to
mention the termination fees on their contracts. Have you ever seen a
business - especially a large one - willing to switch carriers easily?
Of course not. A business wanting to switch from Nextel would wind up
with a large number of useless Nextel handsets that no one wants and
that they've spent a lot of money on, and they would still have to
purchase and deploy all new equipment to their employees. Because of
that, if a large business can get away with marginal service, then they
will be likely to just resign themselves to being stuck rather than
switching carriers. Nextel doesn't cater too much to the consumer
market because they know consumers will be more eager to switch.
Business on the other hand, won't fix what they can argue isn't *too*
broken.
I've tried Nextel three times from 1997 through 2003. The first time, I
was kinda forced into singing up for Nextel because they were the only
carrier that served the two places I spent the most time in: West Texas
and New York/New Jersey (Sprint didn't cover West Texas in '97, and
Verizon wasn't Verizon yet... it was still Bell Atlantic Mobile,
Airtouch, PrimeCo and GTE Mobilnet). Nextel didn't cover either area
very well at all, but because I needed service in both areas, I had to
put up with what marginal service I had.
Rest assured that when the moment Alamosa PCS put up towers in West
Texas to sell service under the Sprint PCS name, not only did I sign
back with them, but I manged to be on the West Texas "charter group" of
customers... the people who had Sprint PCS service a full 45 days before
it was officially launched in the area. I even remarked when I canceled
my Nextel service how sad it was that Sprint covered the area better on
its launch than Nextel did after 18 months of being in the same market
(Sprint had a couple coverage holes at first, but they patched them up
very quickly before the official launch).
Since then I've gotten "we want you back" postcards from Nextel every so
often, promising better coverage and service. No dice each time.
Service provisioning still took more than 24 hours (in one instance it
took three days and ultimately required manual provisioning from an
upper-level tech), coverage was still spotty in the same areas they were
before, and sound quality was poor. Fortunately, I had the presence of
mind to not cancel my Sprint account until I was certain I wanted to go
back to Nextel, so I never cut off service with them. The Nextel phones
always went back with poor reviews from me.
> With that said, they have done some interesting thins in the last year that
> might be their 'new advantage'. They bought Boost Mobile and plan to start
> rolling it out nationally.
We'll have to see how this goes. Considering Boost Mobile was really a
Nextel-dependent service anyway, I don't see too much happening there.
IIRC, Boost also doesn't really offer the direct connect feature.
> And last month, they announced a test of wireless data
> with speeds that are supposed to rival cable. It has been described as 4G
> technology, and from this seat, it appears to be a goo indication of the
> future of this industry.
Hehe... yes, and Nextel also once claimed that by now, they'd be running
CDMA. I don't expect this to materialize anytime soon either.
> If nothing else, they have proven tobe very cautious and slow in rolling out
> new technology,
Not cautious and slow... rather, limited in resources. Nextel still has
a spectrum crunch, and a lot of the spectrum they do have is fragmented
in the SMR band. Any new service roll out is hamstrung by this, as 3G
(and I suspect their vapoware "4G") requires contiguous spectrum to be
functional. Further, the spectrum they do have is closely adjacent to
public safety channels, and many in law enforcement have made no secret
of the fact that they are unhappy with the way Nextel's service
interferes with their communications.
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