Web Browser for a620/vga1000 ? Fox News? (txt mail)

> > Does Fox News advertise that you can get their updates via a wireless
> device?
>
> They do @ http://www.foxnews.com/alerts/subscribe.html

Thanks, I'll check that out.


Now a question on these different types of messaging, when I go to the
Message menu on my a620/vga100 I have the folowing choices:
1) Share Pics (obviously to send camera shots)
2) Voice mail (again obvious)
3) Shortmail
4) PCS Mail
5) Notifications


What are 3, 4, & 5?

ok did a little testing:
I sent a message to #@messaging.spcs.com and it went to #5, notifications. I
also got a beep and a mail box telling there was a message, and opeining
phone took me to message. Cool!
Sent to [email protected] , 1st respose was nothing. went to short mail,
then went to pcs mail where after taking the time to log onto vision, and
got to a mail box I found the test message. Test #2 after I figured out how
to turn on notification was same as notification as I got a beep & a mailbox
on the screen, but opening phone was a message saying I got a message, that
says go to web to read it. bummer.
So what is Shortmail?

And if I decide not to keep vision, how much are the 3 different types of
messages going to cost if I use them?

Thanks again everyone
Bryan

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>
>
> > > Does Fox News advertise that you can get their updates via a wireless
> > device?
> >
> > They do @ http://www.foxnews.com/alerts/subscribe.html
>
> Thanks, I'll check that out.
>
>
> Now a question on these different types of messaging, when I go to the
> Message menu on my a620/vga100 I have the folowing choices:
> 1) Share Pics (obviously to send camera shots)
> 2) Voice mail (again obvious)
> 3) Shortmail
> 4) PCS Mail
> 5) Notifications
>
>
> What are 3, 4, & 5?
>
> ok did a little testing:
> I sent a message to #@messaging.spcs.com and it went to #5, notifications.
I
> also got a beep and a mail box telling there was a message, and opeining
> phone took me to message. Cool!
> Sent to [email protected] , 1st respose was nothing. went to short mail,
> then went to pcs mail where after taking the time to log onto vision, and
> got to a mail box I found the test message. Test #2 after I figured out
how
> to turn on notification was same as notification as I got a beep & a
mailbox
> on the screen, but opening phone was a message saying I got a message,
that
> says go to web to read it. bummer.
> So what is Shortmail?

Shortmail is SMS, and those are sent from the Shortmail link in your phone.
Basically said, it's IM.
>
> And if I decide not to keep vision, how much are the 3 different types of
> messages going to cost if I use them?

TMs I believe are $0.10. As to Emails and SMS would cost $.01/kb, but I'm
not sure. Now, email notifications might be free. In other words, not to
where you could read the email (as that would be necessary to connect to
Vision and get charged $0.01/kb, but just the notification. These
notifications include who sent the email and the subject line. Some folks
use this as TM, as one can use up to 32 characters in the subject line.

Now, in saying that, I went into my account and turned off email
notifications, as I was getting 150 or more spams in my SPCS email box on a
weekly basis. SPCS has recently installed a spam filter, which has dropped
that count to about 8 spams a week now, but I'm still not interested in
seeing those.

Bob

Bob

Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> Shortmail is SMS, and those are sent from the Shortmail link in your phone.
> Basically said, it's IM.

Oh, lord.

Shortmail is not SMS. You don't read SMS via a web browser. There are phones
Sprint has sold that can receive SMS directly to the phone - and that's how
SMS is sent. And I'm talking about the older non-Vision phones. I did it with
my wife's old Samsung 8500.

> TMs I believe are $0.10. As to Emails and SMS would cost $.01/kb, but I'm

Bob, read the web site. Text Messages (SMS messages) are 10 cents each to send
or receive, unless have the unlimited package or the 100-message-per-month
package. With the latter, you get 100 free and they're 10 cents each after
100.

PCS Mail is .01 per KB if you read your PCS mail through Vision. SMS doesn't
use Vision and is billed separately.

Please, please, PLEASE get your terminology straight.

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"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Shortmail is SMS, and those are sent from the Shortmail link in your
phone.
> > Basically said, it's IM.
>
> Oh, lord.

Oh Lord yourself ...
>
> Shortmail is not SMS. You don't read SMS via a web browser. There are
phones
> Sprint has sold that can receive SMS directly to the phone - and that's
how
> SMS is sent. And I'm talking about the older non-Vision phones. I did it
with
> my wife's old Samsung 8500.

Steve, don't know whether you are having a bad day because of your attitude
with this and the other post... but I was replying to the OPs questions on
his SPCS phone ... not anyone elses. TMs are one way messages, sent to the
phone via ###-###-####@messaging.sprintpcs.com. There is no way to reply to
reply to a message sent this way, unless the sender also includes their
phone number to call back on.

Shortmail, as was questioned by the OP, was SPCS's prior SMS, before they
came out with the industry standard SMS. Those messages are sent from the
shortmail, via Vision to another SPCS phone number. Those message can be
replied to.

>
> > TMs I believe are $0.10. As to Emails and SMS would cost $.01/kb, but
I'm
>
> Bob, read the web site. Text Messages (SMS messages) are 10 cents each to
send
> or receive, unless have the unlimited package or the 100-message-per-month
> package. With the latter, you get 100 free and they're 10 cents each after
> 100.

Yes, but is the cost for the new SMS, or the Shortmail / SMS on all the
older phones that have to access Vision prior to composing the message?

>
> PCS Mail is .01 per KB if you read your PCS mail through Vision. SMS
doesn't
> use Vision and is billed separately.
>
> Please, please, PLEASE get your terminology straight.

My terminology for the descriptions on what the OP said he had on his phone
were right on ...

Bob

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Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> Steve, don't know whether you are having a bad day because of your attitude
> with this and the other post...

Unintentionally posting incorrect information is one thing. Refusing to
allow yourself to be corrected is another. I agree 1000% with most of what
you say, but this is incorrect, and you're telling the guy that SMS is charged
at 1c per KB, which is *wrong.* It's 10c per message if you don't have the
unlimited plan or if you are over your monthly allotment.

> his SPCS phone ... not anyone elses. TMs are one way messages, sent to the
> phone via ###-###-####@messaging.sprintpcs.com. There is no way to reply to
> reply to a message sent this way, unless the sender also includes their
> phone number to call back on.

Text messages are messages sent through an SMS gateway. Again, Sprint may
have been using a definition of "text messages" that is completely out of
sync with what the rest of the industry uses, but given other intentional
misdirections Sprint's marketers have offered in the past (one of which I
offered in a previous post), I can't be too surprised about this. However,
I am going to be pedantic (and probably a P.I.T.A.) and insist on using
the industry's definition of "text messages". On any other carrier, "text
message" means "message delivered directly to a handset through an SMS
gateway". Text messages are NOT retrieved via the web, they're sent
directly to the handset. This was one of my major issues with Sprint until
they finally launched true text messaging a couple months ago.

> Shortmail, as was questioned by the OP, was SPCS's prior SMS,

Shortmail is a hack. I never considered Shortmail to be SMS. No other carriers
were forcing you to retrieve messages via the web (and at 39c/minute, to boot).
SMS doesn't require a web browser on your phone. Perhaps an SMS gateway
server was required to transfer the messages to the PCS mailboxes, but it
wasn't SMS. Call me a purist...

> Yes, but is the cost for the new SMS, or the Shortmail / SMS on all the
> older phones that have to access Vision prior to composing the message?

That's the cost for real two-way-send-and-receive-directly-from-the-
handset-without-launching-Vision SMS. And it works, and works well; my phone
supports two-way SMS and I find it very convenient to use. I also like having
my sprintpcs.com PCS Mail box, but having to launch a web browser to read my
mail is nowhere near as convenient as replying directly from the handset with
a couple keypresses (which is why I'd never have used Shortmail).

> My terminology for the descriptions on what the OP said he had on his phone
> were right on ...

Matter of opinion


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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:30:23 -0500, Steven J Sobol
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Shortmail is SMS, and those are sent from the Shortmail link in your phone.
>> Basically said, it's IM.
>
>Oh, lord.
>
>Shortmail is not SMS. You don't read SMS via a web browser. There are phones
>Sprint has sold that can receive SMS directly to the phone - and that's how
>SMS is sent. And I'm talking about the older non-Vision phones. I did it with
>my wife's old Samsung 8500.
>
>> TMs I believe are $0.10. As to Emails and SMS would cost $.01/kb, but I'm
>
>Bob, read the web site. Text Messages (SMS messages) are 10 cents each to send
>or receive, unless have the unlimited package or the 100-message-per-month
>package. With the latter, you get 100 free and they're 10 cents each after
>100.
>
>PCS Mail is .01 per KB if you read your PCS mail through Vision. SMS doesn't
>use Vision and is billed separately.

Umm .... I have Vision. I've never had my text messages -- those
things sent to [email protected] billed separately.
AFAIK, my text messages were included with my Wireless Web plan and
continue to be included with my Vision plan. YMMV.

>Please, please, PLEASE get your terminology straight.

LOL!

Andy Zoff <Andy [email protected]> wrote:

> Umm .... I have Vision. I've never had my text messages -- those
> things sent to [email protected] billed separately.
> AFAIK, my text messages were included with my Wireless Web plan and
> continue to be included with my Vision plan. YMMV.

With Vision you get 100 messages per month free; without Vision it'd be
$5 per month.

Unlimited is $5 per month with Vision or $10 per month without.

Do you ever use more than 100 messages per month? If not, they're paid for
as part of your Vision service.

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To clarify for lurkers, don't forget that a message is a message, whether
inbound or outbound. If you're on a shared plan, a single message between
two phones on the same plan constitutes a separate message at both ends.


"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Andy Zoff <Andy [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Umm .... I have Vision. I've never had my text messages -- those
> > things sent to [email protected] billed separately.
> > AFAIK, my text messages were included with my Wireless Web plan and
> > continue to be included with my Vision plan. YMMV.
>
> With Vision you get 100 messages per month free; without Vision it'd be
> $5 per month.
>
> Unlimited is $5 per month with Vision or $10 per month without.
>
> Do you ever use more than 100 messages per month? If not, they're paid for
> as part of your Vision service.
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Chris Cowles <[email protected]> wrote:
> To clarify for lurkers, don't forget that a message is a message, whether
> inbound or outbound. If you're on a shared plan, a single message between
> two phones on the same plan constitutes a separate message at both ends.

Right, so if you sent 50 and received 50 this month, and your package
includes 100 messages free per month, the next message you send or
receive will be considered #101 and will be billed.

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And if you sent 50 to the other phone on the shared plan, and they replied
once to each, both phones would be at their 100 limit.

I'm probably being redundant, to clarify that the fact they're on the same
shared plan doesn't get you any free messages. That's distinct from plans
that include free phone-to-phone voice minutes.

"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Chris Cowles <[email protected]> wrote:
> > To clarify for lurkers, don't forget that a message is a message,
whether
> > inbound or outbound. If you're on a shared plan, a single message
between
> > two phones on the same plan constitutes a separate message at both ends.
>
> Right, so if you sent 50 and received 50 this month, and your package
> includes 100 messages free per month, the next message you send or
> receive will be considered #101 and will be billed.

>> Umm .... I have Vision. I've never had my text messages -- those
>> things sent to [email protected] billed separately.
>> AFAIK, my text messages were included with my Wireless Web plan and
>> continue to be included with my Vision plan. YMMV.
>
>With Vision you get 100 messages per month free; without Vision it'd be
>$5 per month.
>
>Unlimited is $5 per month with Vision or $10 per month without.
>
>Do you ever use more than 100 messages per month? If not, they're paid for
>as part of your Vision service.

Unlimited text messages are included with my Vision plan.

I get several alerts. I may get 30 text messages a day that can add
up to over 900 a month. The online usage table labels all of them as
"Included" with my Vision plan. When I check usage online with my
phone, there is no tally, the text messages [and after 9 minutes] show
as "Unlimited." The only extra charge on my bill is for my Vision
plan. THERE IS NO SEPARATE BILLING FOR TEXT MESSAGES.

Andy Zoff <Andy [email protected]> wrote:

> I get several alerts. I may get 30 text messages a day that can add
> up to over 900 a month. The online usage table labels all of them as
> "Included" with my Vision plan. When I check usage online with my
> phone, there is no tally, the text messages [and after 9 minutes] show
> as "Unlimited." The only extra charge on my bill is for my Vision
> plan. THERE IS NO SEPARATE BILLING FOR TEXT MESSAGES.

Andy - The rates I quoted come DIRECTLY FROM SPRINT PCS LITERATURE.

You may have an older Vision package that has text messaging priced as you
describe, you may not have two-way text messages - there are a number of
variables that may affect your pricing. What I described is correct and
current for the two-way SMS service Sprint currently offers.

If you don't believe me, pick up a brochure at your friendly local Sprint
store.

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>> I get several alerts. I may get 30 text messages a day that can add
>> up to over 900 a month. The online usage table labels all of them as
>> "Included" with my Vision plan. When I check usage online with my
>> phone, there is no tally, the text messages [and after 9 minutes] show
>> as "Unlimited." The only extra charge on my bill is for my Vision
>> plan. THERE IS NO SEPARATE BILLING FOR TEXT MESSAGES.
>
>Andy - The rates I quoted come DIRECTLY FROM SPRINT PCS LITERATURE.
>
>You may have an older Vision package that has text messaging priced as you
>describe, you may not have two-way text messages - there are a number of
>variables that may affect your pricing. What I described is correct and
>current for the two-way SMS service Sprint currently offers.
>
>If you don't believe me, pick up a brochure at your friendly local Sprint
>store.

My bill is closer and handier than the Sprint store.

Andy Zoff <Andy [email protected]> wrote:

> My bill is closer and handier than the Sprint store.

Go back and read what I said. I said "You may have an older plan that includes
unlimited text messaging at no charge."

Your bill, as I pointed out, does not necessarily reflect what Sprint
currently offers. The literature I got about a month ago, however, does.

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