Difference between vision on power vision?

What is the difference between vision and power vision?

I was looking at Treo 650 which is vision phone. Sprint does not have any
PDA phones with power vision.

Can I use vision/power vision phone as modem with my laptop?

Thanks.


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Hemant Shah wrote:
> What is the difference between vision and power vision?
>

At its most basic level Vision is CDMA 1xRTT whereas Power Vision is
EV-DO. The biggest difference here is that EV-DO is significantly
faster, data-wise.

But Sprint also uses these terms to describe the content and/or features
it provides with them. Some of these features overlap (e.g., Picture
Mail, email, etc.).

Some of the features of Power Vision, when used with a Power Vision
phone (for which Sprint has certain requirements) take advantage of the
higher bitrate available (e.g., each Power Vision phone can play
streaming music with a built-in media player).

Since Sprint's EV-DO footprint is nowhere near as large as 1xRTT's, most
Power Vision "features," used with a Power Vision phone, will still work
in 1xRTT-only areas, albeit at reduced speeds.

Conversely, a Vision phone will work anywhere there is 1xRTT, including
the EV-DO areas. Some Power Vision features were brought to Vision
phones; often referred to as multimedia phones (e.g., Sanyo MM-8300).
While these phones might have Power Vision-like features, they of course
cannot use EV-DO to utilize its higher bitrate.

Personally, considering the small footprint of Sprint's EV-DO, I think
they are going to have a lot of headaches if the touted Power Vision
features degrade dramatically in non-EV-DO areas (e.g., TV and streaming
music).


> I was looking at Treo 650 which is vision phone. Sprint does not have
> any PDA phones with power vision.
>

Nor will they. Technically. Don't forget that Power Vision is also about
the feature-set available to Power Vision *phones*. PDA phones already
can pretty do much anything a Power Vision phone can, albeit at a
reduced bitrate (if not EV-DO). But these features are often
accomplished differently than a corresponding Power Vision phone (e.g.,
I use Pocket Tunes to listen to streaming music on my Treo 650).

And indeed there is a Sprint EV-DO PDA phone available right now: the
PPC-6700. This is a Windows Mobile OS PDA phone and is not marketed as a
"Power Vision" device. This does not mean it can't be used to send email
with photo attachments (or any attachment) or that it can't be used to
watch, or listen to, streaming content et al. Most importantly, it can
utilize the EV-DO network when available.

The upcoming Treo 700p will also be an EV-DO PDA phone (Palm OS).


> Can I use vision/power vision phone as modem with my laptop?
>

Each Power Vision phone, currently available, can be used as a modem
right out of the box (they even include the cable). I'm not positive,
but I believe these phones can report how much data was used via
tethering, ergo Sprint can charge for it accordingly--even if they
haven't started doing it yet.

Most--except for some recent models, such as the latest Sanyos--Vision
phones can be used as modems. But in these cases you will most likely
need to buy your own cable and play by the don't-ask-don't-tell "policy"
that Sprint apparently has in place for people who tether (lightly).


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Thanks for the informative post. Too bad they do not specify if the phone
supporte EV-DO. I did not know PPC-6700 was an EV-DO phone.


While stranded on information super highway Tinman wrote:
> Hemant Shah wrote:
>> What is the difference between vision and power vision?
>>
>
> At its most basic level Vision is CDMA 1xRTT whereas Power Vision is
> EV-DO. The biggest difference here is that EV-DO is significantly
> faster, data-wise.
>
> But Sprint also uses these terms to describe the content and/or features
> it provides with them. Some of these features overlap (e.g., Picture
> Mail, email, etc.).
>
> Some of the features of Power Vision, when used with a Power Vision
> phone (for which Sprint has certain requirements) take advantage of the
> higher bitrate available (e.g., each Power Vision phone can play
> streaming music with a built-in media player).
>
> Since Sprint's EV-DO footprint is nowhere near as large as 1xRTT's, most
> Power Vision "features," used with a Power Vision phone, will still work
> in 1xRTT-only areas, albeit at reduced speeds.
>
> Conversely, a Vision phone will work anywhere there is 1xRTT, including
> the EV-DO areas. Some Power Vision features were brought to Vision
> phones; often referred to as multimedia phones (e.g., Sanyo MM-8300).
> While these phones might have Power Vision-like features, they of course
> cannot use EV-DO to utilize its higher bitrate.
>
> Personally, considering the small footprint of Sprint's EV-DO, I think
> they are going to have a lot of headaches if the touted Power Vision
> features degrade dramatically in non-EV-DO areas (e.g., TV and streaming
> music).
>
>
>> I was looking at Treo 650 which is vision phone. Sprint does not have
>> any PDA phones with power vision.
>>
>
> Nor will they. Technically. Don't forget that Power Vision is also about
> the feature-set available to Power Vision *phones*. PDA phones already
> can pretty do much anything a Power Vision phone can, albeit at a
> reduced bitrate (if not EV-DO). But these features are often
> accomplished differently than a corresponding Power Vision phone (e.g.,
> I use Pocket Tunes to listen to streaming music on my Treo 650).
>
> And indeed there is a Sprint EV-DO PDA phone available right now: the
> PPC-6700. This is a Windows Mobile OS PDA phone and is not marketed as a
> "Power Vision" device. This does not mean it can't be used to send email
> with photo attachments (or any attachment) or that it can't be used to
> watch, or listen to, streaming content et al. Most importantly, it can
> utilize the EV-DO network when available.
>
> The upcoming Treo 700p will also be an EV-DO PDA phone (Palm OS).
>
>
>> Can I use vision/power vision phone as modem with my laptop?
>>
>
> Each Power Vision phone, currently available, can be used as a modem
> right out of the box (they even include the cable). I'm not positive,
> but I believe these phones can report how much data was used via
> tethering, ergo Sprint can charge for it accordingly--even if they
> haven't started doing it yet.
>
> Most--except for some recent models, such as the latest Sanyos--Vision
> phones can be used as modems. But in these cases you will most likely
> need to buy your own cable and play by the don't-ask-don't-tell "policy"
> that Sprint apparently has in place for people who tether (lightly).
>
>
> --
> Mike
>
>

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Hemant Shah wrote:
> Thanks for the informative post. Too bad they do not specify if the
> phone supporte EV-DO. I did not know PPC-6700 was an EV-DO phone.

Every phone marketed as a Power Vision phone supports EV-DO.

Sprint does, by the way, indicate that the PPC-6700 supports EV-DO.
Under the "Overview" tab, within the 6700's details web page, is this
comment: "Where coverage is available, experience broadband–like
download speeds using EV-DO technology."

Generally, any time Sprint uses the term "broadband-like" you can assume
EV-DO. ;-)


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