NEWS: Mobile internet is still a turn-off

<http://www.theregister.com/2006/08/08/mobile_internet_survey/>

Most punters still find mobile internet usage to be a frustrating
experience they'd rather avoid.

Despite investment by operators in services such as i-mode and
Vodafone Live, 73 per cent of respondents to a new survey said don't
access the net from their mobile. Slow-loading pages (38 per cent)
and navigation difficulties (27 per cent) were among the reasons
cited why people would rather hook up to the net using a PC rather
than a phone. A quarter (25 per cent of sites were unavailable to
those with mobile phones.

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John Navas wrote:
> <http://www.theregister.com/2006/08/08/mobile_internet_survey/>
>
> Most punters still find mobile internet usage to be a frustrating
> experience they'd rather avoid.
>
> Despite investment by operators in services such as i-mode and
> Vodafone Live, 73 per cent of respondents to a new survey said don't
> access the net from their mobile. Slow-loading pages (38 per cent)
> and navigation difficulties (27 per cent) were among the reasons
> cited why people would rather hook up to the net using a PC rather
> than a phone. A quarter (25 per cent of sites were unavailable to
> those with mobile phones.

Old news...I believe I posted something like that from a trade magazine
some time ago. I recall that some guy was pitching it with the same
starry eyed look of the internet bubble days.

In article <uP_Bg.2616$%[email protected]>,
DecaturTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:

> John Navas wrote:
> > <http://www.theregister.com/2006/08/08/mobile_internet_survey/>
> >
> > Most punters still find mobile internet usage to be a frustrating
> > experience they'd rather avoid.
> >
> > Despite investment by operators in services such as i-mode and
> > Vodafone Live, 73 per cent of respondents to a new survey said don't
> > access the net from their mobile. Slow-loading pages (38 per cent)
> > and navigation difficulties (27 per cent) were among the reasons
> > cited why people would rather hook up to the net using a PC rather
> > than a phone. A quarter (25 per cent of sites were unavailable to
> > those with mobile phones.
>
> Old news...I believe I posted something like that from a trade magazine
> some time ago. I recall that some guy was pitching it with the same
> starry eyed look of the internet bubble days.

Squintavision on a 2" screen with reduced Frame rates, is not something
thats an attraction.

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:45:30 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:


>John Navas wrote:
>> <http://www.theregister.com/2006/08/08/mobile_internet_survey/>
>>
>> Most punters still find mobile internet usage to be a frustrating
>> experience they'd rather avoid.
>>
>> Despite investment by operators in services such as i-mode and
>> Vodafone Live, 73 per cent of respondents to a new survey said don't
>> access the net from their mobile. Slow-loading pages (38 per cent)
>> and navigation difficulties (27 per cent) were among the reasons
>> cited why people would rather hook up to the net using a PC rather
>> than a phone. A quarter (25 per cent of sites were unavailable to
>> those with mobile phones.

>Old news...I believe I posted something like that from a trade magazine
>some time ago. I recall that some guy was pitching it with the same
>starry eyed look of the internet bubble days.

Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
unusual.

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:01:29 GMT, AZ Nomad <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
>Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
>5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
>unusual.

Indeed. Causes of this problem:
1. High latency of even 3G data. Finally being addressed in 3.5G.
2. Slow phone processors. Unfortunately, more speed burns more power.
3. Slow WAP gateways. Shame on cellular carriers.
4. Slow WAP servers. Providers need to get serious.

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In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <uP_Bg.2616$%[email protected]>,
> DecaturTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>> > <http://www.theregister.com/2006/08/08/mobile_internet_survey/>
>> >
>> > Most punters still find mobile internet usage to be a frustrating
>> > experience they'd rather avoid.
>> >
>> > Despite investment by operators in services such as i-mode and
>> > Vodafone Live, 73 per cent of respondents to a new survey said don't
>> > access the net from their mobile. Slow-loading pages (38 per cent)
>> > and navigation difficulties (27 per cent) were among the reasons
>> > cited why people would rather hook up to the net using a PC rather
>> > than a phone. A quarter (25 per cent of sites were unavailable to
>> > those with mobile phones.
>>
>> Old news...I believe I posted something like that from a trade magazine
>> some time ago. I recall that some guy was pitching it with the same
>> starry eyed look of the internet bubble days.
>
> Squintavision on a 2" screen with reduced Frame rates, is not something
> thats an attraction.

The Verizon EVDO offering, even on the smaller screens [such as my VX8300]
does a pretty damn good job!

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In alt.cellular.sprintpcs AZ Nomad <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
> Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
> 5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
> unusual.

Upgrade to EVDO and you will change your mind. I recall it being pretty fast
on Sprint and it is quite fast on Verizon as well. Just surfing the sites I
am used to like CNN is now very fast.

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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:56:28 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Squintavision on a 2" screen with reduced Frame rates, is not something
>> thats an attraction.
>
>The Verizon EVDO offering, even on the smaller screens [such as my VX8300]
>does a pretty damn good job!

Your eyes must be way better than mine.
I find the small picture to be a bad joke.

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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:57:35 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs AZ Nomad <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
>> Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
>> 5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
>> unusual.
>
>Upgrade to EVDO and you will change your mind. I recall it being pretty fast
>on Sprint and it is quite fast on Verizon as well. Just surfing the sites I
>am used to like CNN is now very fast.

Current EV-DO is certainly better than CDMA 1xRTT, but is still pretty
sluggish on TCP/IP connections. HSDPA is a good deal snappier. EV-DO
Rev A is claimed to be improved over current EV-DO, but is still
vaporware.

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In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:56:28 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
> <[email protected]> wrote in
> <[email protected]>:
>
>>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Squintavision on a 2" screen with reduced Frame rates, is not something
>>> thats an attraction.
>>
>>The Verizon EVDO offering, even on the smaller screens [such as my VX8300]
>>does a pretty damn good job!
>
> Your eyes must be way better than mine.
> I find the small picture to be a bad joke.
>

With contacts I do better than 20/20.

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In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:57:35 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
> <[email protected]> wrote in
> <[email protected]>:
>
>>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs AZ Nomad <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
>>> Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
>>> 5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
>>> unusual.
>>
>>Upgrade to EVDO and you will change your mind. I recall it being pretty fast
>>on Sprint and it is quite fast on Verizon as well. Just surfing the sites I
>>am used to like CNN is now very fast.
>
> Current EV-DO is certainly better than CDMA 1xRTT, but is still pretty
> sluggish on TCP/IP connections. HSDPA is a good deal snappier. EV-DO
> Rev A is claimed to be improved over current EV-DO, but is still
> vaporware.
>

Ah yes ... but I have EVDO available to me now from two providers and HSDPA is
not available to me at all. Further, Rev A is not vaporware, it is simply not
deployed yet.

Right from the source:

http://www.qualcomm.com/technology/1xev-do/revA.html

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AZ Nomad wrote:

> Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
> Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
> 5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
> unusual.

What technology are you using? EV-DO is very fast, and HSDPA, while
slower than EV-DO, and not as widely available, is still not as slow as
you say.

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:58:49 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Your eyes must be way better than mine. I find the small picture to
>>be a bad joke.
>
>With contacts I do better than 20/20.

That explains a lot.

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:23:16 -0700, SMS <[email protected]> wrote:


>AZ Nomad wrote:

>> Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
>> Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
>> 5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
>> unusual.

>What technology are you using? EV-DO is very fast, and HSDPA, while
>slower than EV-DO, and not as widely available, is still not as slow as
>you say.

3G

John Navas wrote:
> Current EV-DO is certainly better than CDMA 1xRTT, but is still pretty
> EV-DO
> Rev A is claimed to be improved over current EV-DO, but is still
> vaporware.

We shall how valid your claim is in a few months when Sprint rolls out
EV-DO Rev A