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- 10-24-2006, 11:41 PM #1AjantaGuest
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LONDON, Oct. 24 (UPI) -- While it has long been acknowledged that the
props of modern life can be detrimental to one's emotional health, it
emerged this week that two commonplace additions -- anti-depressants
and the cell phone -- appear to negatively impact male fertility.
A study conducted by Ohio's Cleveland Clinic found that the sperm
counts of heavy mobile-phone users -- defined as four hours a day or
more -- were 40 percent lower than those who used cell phones
infrequently or not at all.
The research examined 361 men who were about to begin fertility
treatment and were having their sperm analyzed for that purpose.
In addition to having lower sperm counts, the researchers found, the
quality of the sperm of heavy cell-phone users was also diminished. Men
who were moderate mobile-phone users also saw a loss is sperm count,
although the lowered levels were less dramatic.
Dr. Ashok Agarwal, who led the research, told The Times of London that
he believed the electromagnetic fields generated by cell phones were
responsible for the diminished sperm count.
"People use mobile phones without thinking twice what the consequences
may be," he said. "It is just like using a toothbrush, but mobiles
could be having a devastating effect on fertility."
However, other experts have dismissed the possibility of a cell phone,
which is operated at skull-height, affecting the production of sperm.
Anne Clark, of the Fertility Society of Australia, told the Herald Sun:
"It is a bit of a stretch, especially when you're talking about
electromagnetic forces traveling from the mobile to the scrotum."
Clark, instead, thinks that lifestyle factors associated with
mobile-phone use are behind the noted drop in sperm counts.
"Someone who is always glued to their phone is also more likely to be
someone in a high pressure office job, potentially a heavier drinker,
smoker and someone who's overweight.
"It's these guys that hang out in smoky bars, stressed and crunched up
on their scrotum talking on the phone."
At New York's Cornell Medical Center, meanwhile, scientists examining
two patients found a link between anti-depressants and reduced sperm
counts that begs further investigation.
When treating both men for infertility, the researchers found that
their low sperm counts recovered when not taking selective serotonin
reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) to counteract depression, and fell
accordingly when the treatment was resumed.
Peter Schlegel, who presented the research to the American Society for
Reproductive Medicine conference in New Orleans, where the cell-phone
research was also presented, said: "The patients had normal sperm
counts and motility before medication. On the medication they have
severe deterioration of both. The same patients going on and off
medication had the same pattern. It shows a strong association."
The small study group means that the link must be explored further
before being labeled concrete, but a clinical trial of 30 men has since
begun, and results are expected in the not-too-distant future.
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- 10-26-2006, 01:15 AM #2LarryGuest
Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility
Ajanta <[email protected]> wrote in news:251020060041587932%
[email protected]:
> A study conducted by Ohio's Cleveland Clinic found that the sperm
> counts of heavy mobile-phone users -- defined as four hours a day or
> more -- were 40 percent lower than those who used cell phones
> infrequently or not at all.
>
Stupid idiots! Of COURSE they have lower sperm counts! Heavy cellphone
users are TALKIN' ON THE PHONE instead of JERKIN' OFF!
Wonder how much THAT study cost the taxpayers who need their roads paved?
SEX - Use it or LOSE IT!
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- 10-26-2006, 12:43 PM #3Steven J. SobolGuest
Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility
In article <[email protected]>, Larry wrote:
> Stupid idiots! Of COURSE they have lower sperm counts! Heavy cellphone
> users are TALKIN' ON THE PHONE instead of JERKIN' OFF!
>
> Wonder how much THAT study cost the taxpayers who need their roads paved?
Heh. I'm not worried about it. I lived in Ohio for over 30 years - the
roads are great, among the best in the nation.
Personally, I'd bet they re-purposed the money from the schools.
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- 10-26-2006, 02:58 PM #4AjantaGuest
Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility
Jokes and politics apart, I think there s a serious health issue here.
We are being bombarded by EM radiation in ever increasing amounts, but
cell phones bring it that much closer to the body.
Forgetting sperm counts, I wonder what studies might show about brain
diseases in a few decades; the phones are much closer to the brain.
- 10-26-2006, 06:39 PM #5LarryGuest
Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility
Ajanta <[email protected]> wrote in news:261020061558584370%
[email protected]:
> Forgetting sperm counts, I wonder what studies might show about brain
> diseases in a few decades; the phones are much closer to the brain.
>
>
All this worry is for nothing. An old ham friend of mine, Linwood Sikes,
N4LS, died a couple of years ago. He was a ham radio operator running
kilowatt transmitters since there were kilowatt transmitters, since
before the FCC was invented in 1934! Linwood was a transmitter
technician all his life, working on open frame kilowatt transmitters in
the 20's and 30's, worked for United Airlines putting high powered HF
transmitters in United's offices so they could talk with the airplanes,
directly, going across the oceans ("Alameda calling China
Clipper!...Alameda calling China Clipper!...Come in China Clipper!!"),
working on high powered VHF RADARs in WW2. Linwood was South Carolina's
first FM mobile radio dealer, Sikes Radio, for Motorola, from the end of
the war until he decided it was time for his son to run it. It's still
in business, today. He put broadcast stations on the air and ran their
old transmitters on AM and later FM.
As you sat in his ham shack, watching an old CW (Morse Code) radio
operator pleasuring himself, the air over your head was tinged in blue
from the old home brew antenna tuners and open wire feeders feeding his
kilowatts to the antenna farm behind his house. He could copy Morse
Code, by the way, faster than I can type....and talk to you and drink
coffee simultaneously.
Linwood's gone now. He died at 92, a real piece of radio history lost
forever. I was honored to be a part of his late life. Oh, the stories
he could tell would just hold you *****bound....(c;
If RF were THAT dangerous, all the broadcast engineers and technicians
wouldn't live into their 80's and 90's. I know many of them, who have
been operating transmitters most of their lives from 1 kilowatt on AM to
4 GIGAWATTS on UHF TV, where the klystron tubes are BIGGER THAN YOU ARE!
Your cellphone doesn't radiate as much RF energy as your computer is
radiating, as you read this. Don't think so? Turn on any AM radio next
to your computer or monitor. The air is blue with RF!
To add to your worry, you'd better pay more attention to the government
bureaucrats' new Tesla Toy, HAARP, a 10 Gigawatt steerable antenna
transmitter array in Gakona, AK, designed to tear a hole in the
ionosphere, where, right over your head, there are billions of watts of
energy just waiting for the Air Force and Navy's HAARP weapon to rip it
open to see what will happen to you. Search Google on HAARP and read the
books written about it......
......one of its effects is MIND CONTROL!
- 10-26-2006, 07:57 PM #6Mij AdyawGuest
Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility
"Steven J. Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Larry wrote:
>
>> Stupid idiots! Of COURSE they have lower sperm counts! Heavy cellphone
>> users are TALKIN' ON THE PHONE instead of JERKIN' OFF!
>>
That makes perfect sense. Thanks for the clarification. I can't believe that
they most likely spent tax payer dollars on that study when the answer was
so simple.
- 10-28-2006, 12:48 AM #7MickyGuest
Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility
They may turn off the vibrator. If the study was conducted with enabled
vibrator, they should get the opposit result.
Ajanta wrote:
> <http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...061024-123659-
> 7026r>
>
> LONDON, Oct. 24 (UPI) -- While it has long been acknowledged that the
> props of modern life can be detrimental to one's emotional health, it
> emerged this week that two commonplace additions -- anti-depressants
> and the cell phone -- appear to negatively impact male fertility.
> A study conducted by Ohio's Cleveland Clinic found that the sperm
> counts of heavy mobile-phone users -- defined as four hours a day or
> more -- were 40 percent lower than those who used cell phones
> infrequently or not at all.
>
> The research examined 361 men who were about to begin fertility
> treatment and were having their sperm analyzed for that purpose.
> In addition to having lower sperm counts, the researchers found, the
> quality of the sperm of heavy cell-phone users was also diminished. Men
> who were moderate mobile-phone users also saw a loss is sperm count,
> although the lowered levels were less dramatic.
>
> Dr. Ashok Agarwal, who led the research, told The Times of London that
> he believed the electromagnetic fields generated by cell phones were
> responsible for the diminished sperm count.
>
> "People use mobile phones without thinking twice what the consequences
> may be," he said. "It is just like using a toothbrush, but mobiles
> could be having a devastating effect on fertility."
>
> However, other experts have dismissed the possibility of a cell phone,
> which is operated at skull-height, affecting the production of sperm.
>
> Anne Clark, of the Fertility Society of Australia, told the Herald Sun:
> "It is a bit of a stretch, especially when you're talking about
> electromagnetic forces traveling from the mobile to the scrotum."
>
> Clark, instead, thinks that lifestyle factors associated with
> mobile-phone use are behind the noted drop in sperm counts.
>
> "Someone who is always glued to their phone is also more likely to be
> someone in a high pressure office job, potentially a heavier drinker,
> smoker and someone who's overweight.
> "It's these guys that hang out in smoky bars, stressed and crunched up
> on their scrotum talking on the phone."
>
> At New York's Cornell Medical Center, meanwhile, scientists examining
> two patients found a link between anti-depressants and reduced sperm
> counts that begs further investigation.
>
> When treating both men for infertility, the researchers found that
> their low sperm counts recovered when not taking selective serotonin
> reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) to counteract depression, and fell
> accordingly when the treatment was resumed.
>
> Peter Schlegel, who presented the research to the American Society for
> Reproductive Medicine conference in New Orleans, where the cell-phone
> research was also presented, said: "The patients had normal sperm
> counts and motility before medication. On the medication they have
> severe deterioration of both. The same patients going on and off
> medication had the same pattern. It shows a strong association."
>
> The small study group means that the link must be explored further
> before being labeled concrete, but a clinical trial of 30 men has since
> begun, and results are expected in the not-too-distant future.
> ...
> ===
- 10-28-2006, 04:43 PM #8matt weberGuest
Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility
On 27 Oct 2006 23:48:34 -0700, "Micky" <[email protected]> wrote:
>They may turn off the vibrator. If the study was conducted with enabled
>vibrator, they should get the opposit result.
>
>
>Ajanta wrote:
>> <http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...061024-123659-
>> 7026r>
>>
>> LONDON, Oct. 24 (UPI) -- While it has long been acknowledged that the
>> props of modern life can be detrimental to one's emotional health, it
>> emerged this week that two commonplace additions -- anti-depressants
>> and the cell phone -- appear to negatively impact male fertility.
>> A study conducted by Ohio's Cleveland Clinic found that the sperm
>> counts of heavy mobile-phone users -- defined as four hours a day or
>> more -- were 40 percent lower than those who used cell phones
>> infrequently or not at all.
>>
>> The research examined 361 men who were about to begin fertility
>> treatment and were having their sperm analyzed for that purpose.
>> In addition to having lower sperm counts, the researchers found, the
>> quality of the sperm of heavy cell-phone users was also diminished. Men
>> who were moderate mobile-phone users also saw a loss is sperm count,
>> although the lowered levels were less dramatic.
>>
>> Dr. Ashok Agarwal, who led the research, told The Times of London that
>> he believed the electromagnetic fields generated by cell phones were
>> responsible for the diminished sperm count.
>>
>> "People use mobile phones without thinking twice what the consequences
>> may be," he said. "It is just like using a toothbrush, but mobiles
>> could be having a devastating effect on fertility."
>>
>> However, other experts have dismissed the possibility of a cell phone,
>> which is operated at skull-height, affecting the production of sperm.
>>
>> Anne Clark, of the Fertility Society of Australia, told the Herald Sun:
>> "It is a bit of a stretch, especially when you're talking about
>> electromagnetic forces traveling from the mobile to the scrotum."
>>
>> Clark, instead, thinks that lifestyle factors associated with
>> mobile-phone use are behind the noted drop in sperm counts.
>>
>> "Someone who is always glued to their phone is also more likely to be
>> someone in a high pressure office job, potentially a heavier drinker,
>> smoker and someone who's overweight.
>> "It's these guys that hang out in smoky bars, stressed and crunched up
>> on their scrotum talking on the phone."
>>
>> At New York's Cornell Medical Center, meanwhile, scientists examining
>> two patients found a link between anti-depressants and reduced sperm
>> counts that begs further investigation.
>>
>> When treating both men for infertility, the researchers found that
>> their low sperm counts recovered when not taking selective serotonin
>> reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) to counteract depression, and fell
>> accordingly when the treatment was resumed.
>>
>> Peter Schlegel, who presented the research to the American Society for
>> Reproductive Medicine conference in New Orleans, where the cell-phone
>> research was also presented, said: "The patients had normal sperm
>> counts and motility before medication. On the medication they have
>> severe deterioration of both. The same patients going on and off
>> medication had the same pattern. It shows a strong association."
>>
>> The small study group means that the link must be explored further
>> before being labeled concrete, but a clinical trial of 30 men has since
>> begun, and results are expected in the not-too-distant future.
>> ...
>> ===
Many antidepressants, particularly in the SSRI class are known to
interfere with sexual performance.
As for the cell phone, a link is not necessarily a causative link. I'd
worry more about personality traits if someone lives on a cell phone,
and keep in mind, if they are being treated for infertility, there is
likely to be a problem to start with.
- 11-03-2006, 03:56 PM #9bampGuest
Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility
"Steven J. Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Larry wrote:
>
>> Stupid idiots! Of COURSE they have lower sperm counts! Heavy cellphone
>> users are TALKIN' ON THE PHONE instead of JERKIN' OFF!
>>
>> Wonder how much THAT study cost the taxpayers who need their roads paved?
>
> Heh. I'm not worried about it. I lived in Ohio for over 30 years - the
> roads are great, among the best in the nation.
>
> Personally, I'd bet they re-purposed the money from the schools.
>
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl **
> Linux/*BSD/Windows
> Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
>
> It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
>
Break out the Tin Foil hats!!
...
bamp
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