What to do With an ex-Orange Nokia 6225 (CDMA)?

Hi guys.

A friend of a friend offered me a phone for free.
http://www.nokia.com.au/nokia/0,,57582,00.html

When I got it the sim card can't be put in. (There is a sticker on the
bracket that says "card slot non-functional".)

After searching through these groups I've worked out that this is a
CDMA phone that doesn't accept SIM cards so it is pretty useless to me.

When I turn it on the Orange logo is displayed. On eBay these are
going for around $50 but these are unlocked I think.

Could another Orange customer use this phone? Can it be reset for
another carrier? Is this thing useless?

Thanx 4 looking.

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> Hi guys.
>
> A friend of a friend offered me a phone for free.
> http://www.nokia.com.au/nokia/0,,57582,00.html
>
> When I got it the sim card can't be put in. (There is a sticker on the
> bracket that says "card slot non-functional".)
>
> After searching through these groups I've worked out that this is a
> CDMA phone that doesn't accept SIM cards so it is pretty useless to me.
>
> When I turn it on the Orange logo is displayed. On eBay these are
> going for around $50 but these are unlocked I think.
>
> Could another Orange customer use this phone? Can it be reset for
> another carrier? Is this thing useless?
>
> Thanx 4 looking.
>
Orange will not connect any new CDMA handsets, but it could possibly be used
as a replacement handset for an existing customer, however Orange would
probably insist on a letter from the previous accountholder authorizing the
transfer. Cannot swap CDMA handsets between Orange/.Telstra networks due to
arrogant pigheadedness by the telcos.Not heavy enough to be a boat anchor.



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> When I turn it on the Orange logo is displayed. On eBay these are
> going for around $50 but these are unlocked I think.

Nah, they're just bought by either people who think they can connect to
Telstra or people still on Orange CDMA needing a new handset.

I'm about to try to off-load exactly the same handset I was given on
eBay after failing to get it to Telstra. Programmed the NAM to all of
Telstra's settings, rang them up to try and move my existing Telstra
CDMA account from a trusty old 2280 and their PC simply refused to
accept the 6225's ESN. Played dumb and said "But I was told by the
previous owner it's a Telstra phone? I can even see in the Service
Programming Menu that it's got all your settings in there." You'll just
get a reply of "Ummm... Computer won't accept that ESN? I can't do
anything..."

Tried it twice, with exactly the same result. I assume simply because
it's an ESN within Orange's range, not Telstra's.

The only way I'm aware of would be to take the ESN off a sacraficial
phone and program it into the EEPROM of the new handset. However, I
think the 6225 uses a ROM that can't be re-programmed? No doubt it's
about on par with changing a handset's IMEI as far as the law's
concerned too.

I suppose the other way would be to bribe the right person and get the
ESN added to Telstra's "we sold this phone" database? Probably just a
range of ESNs rather than a collection of unique ESNs, so even less
likely.

> Could another Orange customer use this phone?

Yes, as far as I can tell. But Orange are blowing away their handset
repayments and trying to encourage them all to move to their (Three's)
2100MHz UMTS network. And considering Three's handset/plan prices aren't
too shabby, I can't see why someone would want to stay on Orange's CDMA
network (which has even less coverage - before roaming - than their UMTS
network?).

> Can it be reset for another carrier?

Only if that carrier accepts ESNs they didn't sell, which isn't very
common around the world.

> Is this thing useless?

Nah, flog it on eBay. It seems _someone_ wants them.

PD

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* [email protected]:
> Hi guys.
>
> A friend of a friend offered me a phone for free.
> http://www.nokia.com.au/nokia/0,,57582,00.html
>
> When I got it the sim card can't be put in. (There is a sticker on the
> bracket that says "card slot non-functional".)
>
> After searching through these groups I've worked out that this is a
> CDMA phone that doesn't accept SIM cards so it is pretty useless to me.
>
> When I turn it on the Orange logo is displayed. On eBay these are
> going for around $50 but these are unlocked I think.
>
> Could another Orange customer use this phone? Can it be reset for
> another carrier? Is this thing useless?
>
> Thanx 4 looking.

Basically it is a paper weight. CDMA phones aren't locked as such,
rather they have an ESN number that has to be registered at the network
for the phone to work.

As thegoons said Telstra and Orange refuse accept each other's phones
even though it can easily be done.

Best bet would be to flog it on eBay to someone overseas that can
connect it to their local carrier.


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73 de Simon, VK3XEM.

> > When I turn it on the Orange logo is displayed. On eBay these are
> > going for around $50 but these are unlocked I think.
>
> Nah, they're just bought by either people who think they can connect to
> Telstra or people still on Orange CDMA needing a new handset.
>
> I'm about to try to off-load exactly the same handset I was given on
> eBay after failing to get it to Telstra. Programmed the NAM to all of
> Telstra's settings, rang them up to try and move my existing Telstra
> CDMA account from a trusty old 2280 and their PC simply refused to
> accept the 6225's ESN. Played dumb and said "But I was told by the

It cant accept it because it doesnt exist in the database, or the network

> previous owner it's a Telstra phone? I can even see in the Service
> Programming Menu that it's got all your settings in there." You'll just
> get a reply of "Ummm... Computer won't accept that ESN? I can't do
> anything..."

Because they know you are trying **** and you aint gonna get away with it

> Tried it twice, with exactly the same result. I assume simply because
> it's an ESN within Orange's range, not Telstra's.

In other words, they are right and you are wrong

> The only way I'm aware of would be to take the ESN off a sacraficial
> phone and program it into the EEPROM of the new handset. However, I
> think the 6225 uses a ROM that can't be re-programmed? No doubt it's
> about on par with changing a handset's IMEI as far as the law's
> concerned too.

Or another way thats a lot easier and cheaper - BUY A TELSTRA CDMA PHONE

Nerd.

> I suppose the other way would be to bribe the right person and get the
> ESN added to Telstra's "we sold this phone" database? Probably just a
> range of ESNs rather than a collection of unique ESNs, so even less
> likely.

Nope. Actual ESNs are recorded, not ranges.

And its not as simple as adding it to the activation database, it has to be
added to the network too.

Your Orange CDMA handset is useless on the Telstra network...get a
Telstra compatible phone.