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    Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Original article here ... 11 Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep - Consumerist

    T-Mobile doesn't want to be left out of the fun! One of their sales reps has generously and selflessly written down his innermost thoughts and sent them to the Consumerist for your personal edification. Bask in the glory of Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep...

    • T-Mobile price matches. "T-Mobile has a policy that they do not advertise that is called a price match guarantee. This states that they can honor any price that has been printed (advertisement), as long as the terms and conditions are the same as T-Mobile's. It also states that you can get an account credit if the price of the phone goes down within 30 days. "

    • T-Mobile lets reps give away accessories. "Most reps have the ability to give away accessories for free without checking with their managers. If we give any bit of discount, we don't get paid out on the accessory so you might as well ask for it for free. Things like waived activation or discounts on phones can be done, but usually through the manager or senior sales reps permission."

    • Use features to get free stuff, avoid insurance. "As other reps have stated, features are a big portion for reps. Any data feature nets the rep some extra cash. Use that to your advantage and ask them to throw in some accessories if you buy unlimited messaging or t-zones. The only thing that does not earn us money is insurance, so stay away from that one."

    • Shop at the end of the month. T-mobile has a quota system for reps. They'll be more generous at the end of the month. "Go in to purchase service during the last 5 days of the month. This is the time that is most crucial for store reps and their managers. They need to make sure to get quota, and everyone is more lenient during the end of the month." If it's not the end of the month, you can still try to take advantage: "If you have already been approved for service and you are not offered the deal that you want, give the rep your phone number and tell them to call you when they can give you a good deal. I had a customer do this and get what they want on the last day of the month because we were 2 activations short of goal."

    • Never get a 2 year contract. "As the VZW rep said, only sign a one year contract. Yeah you have to pay 50 bucks more, but you can upgrade again in 11 months. "

    • Your rate plan doesn't mean anything at T-Mobile. "At T-mobile, we don't get paid very much on how high the rate plan is, so don't push that you are going to spend a lot on the plan. We care about the accessories and the features. "

    • Get your rebate at the store and on-line. "As the cingy guy said, if you ask and get an in-store instant rebate, you can still find the mail in rebate at www.tmobilerebates.com. The rebate center will still honor it."

    • Get free stuff by calling within 14 days and threatening to switch to another carrier. "If you want to squeeze a bit more out of the deal and you are within 14 days of new service, call the store and ask to speak to the rep that helped you. Remind him/her who you are, and ask what you need to do to cancel. This will set off alarms in the reps head since you are their customer, and they will get a chargeback if you cancel. When they ask why you want to know how to cancel, let them know that you have been offered a deal for a similar type phone for the same price from a DIFFERENT carrier, but with a couple free accessories and waived activation. Most likely the rep will try to offer you a free accessory to stay with us, being as how they worked hard at getting you to sign that initial contract and don't want to lose the sale. You have to tell the rep it is a different carrier because if you say its another Tmobile store, the rep will not lose the credit if you cancel and sign back up with a different store. "

    • Replace a broken T-mobile phone with a prepaid one."Go to Walmart and buy a T-Mobile prepaid phone. Your contract sim card will work in the phone no problem, and there is NO difference (software or hardware wise) between a prepaid phone and one that is upgraded with contract. Then put the prepaid activation code and sim card up on ebay, and make $10. (from what I hear, this is the same with Cingular and Verizon)"

    • Upgrade over the phone, not in a store. At T-Mobile, reps don't get paid much for upgrades and don't care if you get a deal on a phone. Upgrade over the phone to get the best deal.
    "If you are out of contract, you have a bargaining chip with customer care over the phone. Ask for a cheaper price on a phone, or a "preferred" rate plan that's cheaper but gives you the same amount of minutes. If you have been a good customer and made payments on time, you have a good chance of getting a discount. T-Mobile corporate store reps cannot discount the upgrade price at all in store. We don't make very much money off an upgrade, and many will spend less time with you if its busy. Go in during a off-peak time if you want an honest opinion or to chat about the phones. There is nothing worse for us than to get an hour-long upgrade on a Saturday and watch as our coworkers are getting new lines and getting paid."

    • Unlock your phone. Immediately call into customer care and ask to have your phone unlocked. Unlocking your phone allows your phone to be used with any GSM carrier (Cingular is the only other national US carrier). T-mobile will unlock your phone for free at anytime during or after you contract. Once you unlock your phone, you can now use a cingular sim card or any sim card in the world. Whether or not you plan on traveling, you have still increased the resell value of your phone by quite a bit.

    Would you like to confess to the Consumerist? Do you work at Alltel or US Cellular? Best Buy? Office Max? Walmart? Microsoft? Dell? Toyota? Ford? United Airlines? Delta? JetBlue? Do you have a job? We want to hear your confessions. tips [at] consumerist [dot] com. Your job sucks and you're not appreciated. Heal with us. —MEGHANN MARCO


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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Unlock your phone. Immediately call into customer care and ask to have your phone unlocked. Unlocking your phone allows your phone to be used with any GSM carrier (Cingular is the only other national US carrier). T-mobile will unlock your phone for free at anytime during or after you contract. Once you unlock your phone, you can now use a cingular sim card or any sim card in the world. Whether or not you plan on traveling, you have still increased the resell value of your phone by quite a bit.
    Lots of details in the article are true, but this one is not entirely accurate.

    tmobile will not unlock your phone while you are within your buyers remorse period, and (by policy) will only unlock your phone after 90 days of service. If you have cancelled your account they will only unlock within 90 days of your cancellation.

    And if you have a sidekick they will not unlock that under any circumstances.

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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Quote Originally Posted by mediadealer
    Lots of details in the article are true, but this one is not entirely accurate.

    tmobile will not unlock your phone while you are within your buyers remorse period, and (by policy) will only unlock your phone after 90 days of service. If you have cancelled your account they will only unlock within 90 days of your cancellation.

    And if you have a sidekick they will not unlock that under any circumstances.

    Sincerely,
    --Corey
    I've only used unlocked/unbranded phones for several years. Keep looking at the Blackberry Pearl so that might change sometime in the future.

    Out of curiosity, why will TMo not unlock the Sidekick?



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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Quote Originally Posted by wirelessfan
    I've only used unlocked/unbranded phones for several years. Keep looking at the Blackberry Pearl so that might change sometime in the future.

    Out of curiosity, why will TMo not unlock the Sidekick?
    T-mobile won't unlock the sidekick because of the nature of service. Danger runs the server that powers the sidekick service and Danger has no other agreements with other carriers. Hence, using a sidekick on another provider would relegate it to a phone only as everything else about the sidekick, ie messaging requires Danger servers. It would be useless, well not useless but just a phone.



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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Quote Originally Posted by arigold
    T-mobile won't unlock the sidekick because of the nature of service. Danger runs the server that powers the sidekick service and Danger has no other agreements with other carriers. Hence, using a sidekick on another provider would relegate it to a phone only as everything else about the sidekick, ie messaging requires Danger servers. It would be useless, well not useless but just a phone.
    Interesting. Thanks for the info.



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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Very Informative. Cudos



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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    i have a cingular LG F9100 cell phone and i was wondering can it be unlocked and used with tmobile. if so how would i go about getting it unlocked



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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Quote Originally Posted by anthony
    i have a cingular LG F9100 cell phone and i was wondering can it be unlocked and used with tmobile. if so how would i go about getting it unlocked

    Your question has already been answered here: http://cellphoneforums.net/lg/t24688...d-verizon.html

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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Thank you for this very helpful information. I was always unsure if it's better to do the upgrades on-line or over the phone. Last year I did it over the phone and rcv'd a pretty good deal. I have a store right next door to where I work but I have only been there twice, they're always extremely busy. I noticed on-line the only major "bargain" is by upgrading to a 2 year contract. Thanks again..you've helped me to make an informed purchases! ...



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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Being that this thread has not kept it's course i have no choice but to close it down..

    Gentlemen, take it to private messaging.

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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony E!
    Being that this thread has not kept it's course i have no choice but to close it down..

    Gentlemen, take it to private messaging.
    The original post here was excellent (if I do say so myself). It is unfortunate that a man who runs a competitive phone forum can show up here and take content off topic and cause the closing of an excellent thread. I find it bizarre that CPF knowing who this person is and knowing that he has a record of spamming this board with advertisements for his own board would want to close an excellent thread rather than taking corrective action for the bait posts of a known spammer.



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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    Quote Originally Posted by wirelessfan
    The original post here was excellent (if I do say so myself). It is unfortunate that a man who runs a competitive phone forum can show up here and take content off topic and cause the closing of an excellent thread. I find it bizarre that CPF knowing who this person is and knowing that he has a record of spamming this board with advertisements for his own board would want to close an excellent thread rather than taking corrective action for the bait posts of a known spammer.

    Yet you choose to keep the argument going..

    I do agree that it's a very informative thread, for that reason i will leave it open, i've deleted all irrelavant posts, let's keep this thread on subject, if it keeps going.

    As for what needs to be done about spammers? let us worry about that.
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    Re: Confessions of a T-Mobile Sales Rep

    very very informative..I should have read this before buying a phone.. at least I got a free case.



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