Three and data compression

[email protected] wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:29:24 GMT, "." <.@.> wrote:
>
>> are you mental ? £300 per hour ?

<snip duck noises>

> You are quite right. It isn't an accurate figure.

NEXT !

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[email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:29:24 GMT, "." <.@.> wrote:
>>are you mental ? £300 per hour ? I can see your workings out and you still
>>don't make any sense. Vodafone charge £2/meg and an email is 2 -5 kb.
>>how is that £300 per hour ? it's not, is it, it's a few pence, if that, for fast,
>>reliable data on the move.
>
>
> Get a grown-up to explain it to you. Preferably one who can use a
> calculator.

I believe your confusion here is between MB (MegaBytes) and Mb
(MegaBits). You pay £2 for 1MB (megabyte) of data, and you can transfer
at a maximum downstream speed of 380Kb/s (kilobits per second). A KB
(kilobyte) is equal to eight Kb (kilobits).

Thus, it would take 22 seconds to download 1MB (or 1024KB) assuming
absolutely no overheads. Rather more than your "two seconds".

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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:53:18 +0000, Gareth Halfacree
<[email protected]> wrote:

>You pay £2 for 1MB (megabyte) of data, and you can transfer
>at a maximum downstream speed of 380Kb/s (kilobits per second). A KB
>(kilobyte) is equal to eight Kb (kilobits).
>
>Thus, it would take 22 seconds to download 1MB (or 1024KB) assuming
>absolutely no overheads. Rather more than your "two seconds".

Yes, that was a typo. That's two seconds for a megabit. I did the
conversion to bytes after that point.

The maximum speed of 3G is 384kbit/sec down and 64kbit/sec up: a total
of 448kbits/second

That's 448/8 = 56 kilobytes per second. So a megabyte would take
1024/56 = 18 seconds. That's just over 3 megabytes per minute, 197
megabytes per hour. At £2.35 per megabyte, that is £462 per hour.



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[email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:53:18 +0000, Gareth Halfacree
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You pay £2 for 1MB (megabyte) of data, and you can transfer
>> at a maximum downstream speed of 380Kb/s (kilobits per second). A KB
>> (kilobyte) is equal to eight Kb (kilobits).
>>
>> Thus, it would take 22 seconds to download 1MB (or 1024KB) assuming
>> absolutely no overheads. Rather more than your "two seconds".
>
> Yes, that was a typo. That's two seconds for a megabit. I did the
> conversion to bytes after that point.
>
> The maximum speed of 3G is 384kbit/sec down and 64kbit/sec up: a total
> of 448kbits/second
>
> That's 448/8 = 56 kilobytes per second. So a megabyte would take
> 1024/56 = 18 seconds. That's just over 3 megabytes per minute, 197
> megabytes per hour. At £2.35 per megabyte, that is £462 per hour.

it might as well be a box of frogs for all it's meaning or relevance to real
world *modern* applications like email, checking rail times, reading news.

it costs pence, not hundreds of pounds, I know from experience, not fantasy.

<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:53:18 +0000, Gareth Halfacree
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You pay £2 for 1MB (megabyte) of data, and you can transfer
> >at a maximum downstream speed of 380Kb/s (kilobits per second). A KB
> >(kilobyte) is equal to eight Kb (kilobits).
> >
> >Thus, it would take 22 seconds to download 1MB (or 1024KB) assuming
> >absolutely no overheads. Rather more than your "two seconds".
>
> Yes, that was a typo. That's two seconds for a megabit. I did the
> conversion to bytes after that point.
>
> The maximum speed of 3G is 384kbit/sec down and 64kbit/sec up: a total
> of 448kbits/second
>
> That's 448/8 = 56 kilobytes per second. So a megabyte would take
> 1024/56 = 18 seconds. That's just over 3 megabytes per minute, 197
> megabytes per hour. At £2.35 per megabyte, that is £462 per hour.

Terrific value, eh!

I think I'll stick to the BT openzone/T-mobile hotspots. £6 a month for
500 minutes if you have a BT Broadband account. Nothing's that important
to me that I have to download it for that kind of money...

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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:26:54 GMT, "." <.@.> wrote:

>it might as well be a box of frogs for all it's meaning or relevance to real
>world *modern* applications like email, checking rail times, reading news.

Ah, you mean stuff you don't need 3G for. Why didn't you say you
weren't using it at all? That would explain your ignorance.

>it costs pence, not hundreds of pounds, I know from experience, not fantasy.

That's good. Would you like to pay the bills for people who have real
world experience?

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:38:38 GMT, "." <.@.> wrote:

>> You are quite right. It isn't an accurate figure.
>
>NEXT !

Next is the accurate figure: £462 per hour.

Now, what was your point, duckhead?

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<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:26:54 GMT, "." <.@.> wrote:
>
> >it might as well be a box of frogs for all it's meaning or relevance to real
> >world *modern* applications like email, checking rail times, reading news.
>
> Ah, you mean stuff you don't need 3G for.

Depends on your email.

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[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:26:54 GMT, "." <.@.> wrote:
>
>> it might as well be a box of frogs for all it's meaning or relevance
>> to real world *modern* applications like email, checking rail times,
>> reading news.
>
> Ah, you mean stuff you don't need 3G for. Why didn't you say you
> weren't using it at all? That would explain your ignorance.
>
>> it costs pence, not hundreds of pounds, I know from experience, not
>> fantasy.
>
> That's good. Would you like to pay the bills for people who have real
> world experience?

I do, you don't.

Q.E.D