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  1. #1
    Dransfield
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    This info will be useless to most people, but hopefully spot on for
    somebody:

    I'm on Virgin and use the "RAC Traffic Master" number a heck of a lot.
    The problem is that this option is in the "Virgin Extras" menu, and on my
    phone takes 10 button presses to connect. And funnily enough that tends to
    be 10 button presses while driving with the other hand / half of the brain!

    I asked Virgin CS if there was a number I could dial instead but they just
    said "no" (as in <little britain> "..puter says nuh..." </little britain> ).

    So I rang T-Mobile, and they said their number was 1740, so I gave it a try
    and it works!

    Now I've stored it in the phone with a voice tag all I have to do is press
    one button (without looking away from the road) and say "Traffic" and I'm
    in.

    All I have to do now is wait for the bill to compare charges with Virgin
    Extras - my guess is it will be about the same but who knows.

    HTH Somebody,
    Regards,
    Dz





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  2. #2
    BORG
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    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:57:57 GMT, "Dransfield"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >And funnily enough that tends to
    >be 10 button presses while driving with the other hand / half of the brain!



    That's Illegal and stupid for a start
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  3. #3
    JC
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    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:18:23 +0000, BORG <[email protected]> wrote:

    >That's Illegal and stupid for a start



    That's unhelpful and completely incorrect..for a start.

    It is perfectly legal to use a mobile phone in a car as long as the phone
    is secured in a fixed holder. So the OP would still have to take one hand
    off the wheel to dial in a completely legal manner!!
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  4. #4
    Ivor Jones
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    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus



    "JC" <johncalias-newsgroupsATyahooD0TcoD0Tuk> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]
    > On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:18:23 +0000, BORG
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > That's Illegal and stupid for a start

    >
    >
    > That's unhelpful and completely incorrect..for a start.
    >
    > It is perfectly legal to use a mobile phone in a car as
    > long as the phone is secured in a fixed holder. So the OP
    > would still have to take one hand off the wheel to dial
    > in a completely legal manner!!


    It's still stupid to faff about pressing 10+ buttons though. It takes your
    attention off the road. I always use either one-touch memories or voice
    dialling.

    Ivor





  5. #5
    Simon
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    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus


    "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    > "JC" <johncalias-newsgroupsATyahooD0TcoD0Tuk> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]
    > > On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:18:23 +0000, BORG
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > That's Illegal and stupid for a start

    > >
    > >
    > > That's unhelpful and completely incorrect..for a start.
    > >
    > > It is perfectly legal to use a mobile phone in a car as
    > > long as the phone is secured in a fixed holder. So the OP
    > > would still have to take one hand off the wheel to dial
    > > in a completely legal manner!!

    >
    > It's still stupid to faff about pressing 10+ buttons though. It takes your
    > attention off the road. I always use either one-touch memories or voice
    > dialling.
    >

    Of course you don't search through your 32 preset radio stations then mess
    with the air con, switch the rear heated screen on then fiddle about with
    your electric window buttons. We have all done a certain slant of the
    routine like that whilst driving so what is the big difference between
    pressin 10 buttons on a phone and 10 buttons on a car radio? It would be
    interesting to see the stats for accidents that happened whilst the driver
    was pissing about with car accessories.





  6. #6
    Ivor Jones
    Guest

    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus



    "Simon" <If u think this accounts fast you should see the
    other [email protected]> wrote in message
    news:fT%[email protected]
    > "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > >
    > > "JC" <johncalias-newsgroupsATyahooD0TcoD0Tuk> wrote in
    > > message news:[email protected]
    > > > On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:18:23 +0000, BORG
    > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > That's Illegal and stupid for a start
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > That's unhelpful and completely incorrect..for a
    > > > start.
    > > >
    > > > It is perfectly legal to use a mobile phone in a car
    > > > as long as the phone is secured in a fixed holder. So
    > > > the OP would still have to take one hand off the
    > > > wheel to dial in a completely legal manner!!

    > >
    > > It's still stupid to faff about pressing 10+ buttons
    > > though. It takes your attention off the road. I always
    > > use either one-touch memories or voice dialling.
    > >

    > Of course you don't search through your 32 preset radio
    > stations then mess with the air con, switch the rear
    > heated screen on then fiddle about with your electric
    > window buttons. We have all done a certain slant of the
    > routine like that whilst driving so what is the big
    > difference between pressin 10 buttons on a phone and 10
    > buttons on a car radio? It would be interesting to see
    > the stats for accidents that happened whilst the driver
    > was pissing about with car accessories.


    Actually, I only ever listen to either Radio 2, Radio 4 or CD's. Switching
    between these is a single button press in each case. I don't mess with the
    heating or other controls while actually moving, although I confess to
    doing so while stopped in traffic or at lights. Oh before you ask, no I
    don't switch CD's on the move either.


    Ivor





  7. #7
    The Drone
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    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    In article <[email protected]>, Ivor Jones
    <[email protected]> writes

    snip

    >Oh before you ask, no I
    >don't switch CD's on the move either.


    Totally OT but since using hand-held phones is illegal, why aren't
    single CD units? I could take a cassette out of the unit, chuck it on
    the passenger seat, open a new case and insert the cassette all with one
    hand. Doing that with a CD is impossible. Boot changers are great but
    single CD units are a menace.
    --
    Peter



  8. #8
    Martin²
    Guest

    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    Hey guys you are all on the wrong track.
    The problem is not so much FINGERING the phone, it's holding a CONVERSATION
    while driving.
    The GSM compression losses quite a lot of the original sound and your brain
    needs to subconsciously make out the words as well as take in what is being
    said and think of the answer.
    Regards,
    Martin





  9. #9
    Get Real
    Guest

    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    Ivor Jones wrote:

    [on the subject of using accessories/mobile phones whilst driving]
    >
    > Actually, I only ever listen to either Radio 2, Radio 4 or CD's. Switching
    > between these is a single button press in each case. I don't mess with the
    > heating or other controls while actually moving, although I confess to
    > doing so while stopped in traffic or at lights. Oh before you ask, no I
    > don't switch CD's on the move either.
    >
    >
    > Ivor


    If only we could all be like you Ivor the world would be a better
    place, wouldn't it?




  10. #10
    Ivor Jones
    Guest

    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus



    "Get Real" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Ivor Jones wrote:
    >
    > [on the subject of using accessories/mobile phones whilst
    > driving]
    > >
    > > Actually, I only ever listen to either Radio 2, Radio 4
    > > or CD's. Switching between these is a single button
    > > press in each case. I don't mess with the heating or
    > > other controls while actually moving, although I
    > > confess to doing so while stopped in traffic or at
    > > lights. Oh before you ask, no I don't switch CD's on
    > > the move either.
    > >
    > >
    > > Ivor

    >
    > If only we could all be like you Ivor the world would be
    > a better place, wouldn't it?


    If you say so.

    Ivor





  11. #11

    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:55:27 -0000, "Martin²" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hey guys you are all on the wrong track.


    No. They are discussing the law

    >The problem is not so much FINGERING the phone, it's holding a CONVERSATION
    >while driving.


    That may (or may not) be the case, but the law is quite specific, and
    it does not refer to holding a conversation or pressing buttons: it
    refers to holding the phone.

    >The GSM compression losses quite a lot of the original sound and your brain
    >needs to subconsciously make out the words as well as take in what is being
    >said and think of the answer.


    You do read a lot of rubbish in newsgroups, but that bit of utter tosh
    must be worthy of an award for being one of the biggest heaps of
    steaming poo this year.

    It's just plain rubbish.

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  12. #12
    Martin²
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    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    Hairydog:
    >No. They are discussing the law.


    Not quite, as per subject, the initial discussion was about usage.
    The law is an ass.
    It should really ban ALL phone calls while driving, but as usual Lab. gov.
    muddled it up,
    leaving it fairly un-enforceable mess.

    >You do read a lot of rubbish in newsgroups,

    Well I am happy to agree with you there.

    Now, kindly explain yourself:
    Are you denying that GSM codec, unlike other ones, losses a significant
    amount of sound ?
    Have you tried a VoIP call using GSM ?
    There is published scientific evidence proving the only reason it works is
    that human brain can 'guess' the rest.
    Just like when you hear just a faint, distant music you can recognise the
    tune (if you know it).

    I remember a TV program (Tomorrow's World possibly) where they tested people
    on driving simulators while they held a conversation on mobile phones. They
    concluded that the mental effort required clearly impeded the drivers
    attention and concentration.

    Or do you have another reason for claiming my statement was rubbish ?
    Lets hear your 'hairy dog story'.
    No regards,
    Martin









  13. #13

    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:00:03 -0000, "Martin²" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I remember a TV program (Tomorrow's World possibly) where they tested people
    >on driving simulators while they held a conversation on mobile phones. They
    >concluded that the mental effort required clearly impeded the drivers
    >attention and concentration.


    Oh, I do apologise. I hadn't realised that you had such precise,
    peer-reviewed, authoritative research to back your assertions. And
    such clear evidence that the cause of this attention deficit was GSM
    encoding, rather than holding a conversation.

    >Or do you have another reason for claiming my statement was rubbish ?


    I don't need another. It was utter drivel. You are spouting crap. It
    is not true. It is balderdash.

    Yes, of course holding a conversation distracts drivers. That's why it
    is an offence for a car driver to have a discussion with someone
    sitting in the back seat when the radio is on: you can't hear them
    properly and it takes lots of attention to work out their words.

    The reason that holding the phone is what triggers illegality in
    mobile use is that the GSM signal leaks into the nerves in their
    fingers and addles the brains of drivers. If they don't hold the
    problem, this is not a problem.

    OK, maybe the previous two paragraphs are not quite correct.

    The reason the law is as it is is because it was drafted by fools. The
    reason is it so widely ignored is probably that people noticed that.

    People know that eating junkfood and smoking kills them but they still
    do it. What make is you think a £30 fine is a bigger deterrent than a
    premature death?

    If you really think that banning the use of a mobile phone when
    driving could be enforced, why do you think they can't even enforce
    the ban on hand-held ones, which are dead easy to spot?

    --

    Iain
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  14. #14
    Peter
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    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Martin²" <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]
    >> I remember a TV program (Tomorrow's World possibly) where they
    >> tested people on driving simulators while they held a conversation
    >> on mobile phones. They concluded that the mental effort required
    >> clearly impeded the drivers attention and concentration.

    > Oh, I do apologise. I hadn't realised that you had such precise,
    > peer-reviewed, authoritative research to back your assertions.


    Oh, it's also backed up with further results from that prestigious
    research outfit, Mythbusters

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  15. #15

    Re: How to access RAC Traffic Master from Virgin without going through the menus

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:21:18 +0000, [email protected] wrote:

    >Is this possible? I wouldn't have thought GPRS could give you the
    >required bandwidth.


    I assumed that he was talking a call from or to a GSM phone via a VOIP
    connection. Something I do every day, with no trouble at all.

    There are some VOIP encoding schemes that would work over a GSM data
    connection, just about. But not very well.

    >In any case VOIP doesn't use the GSM CODECs within the phone, does it?


    No, but you can choose a GSM encoding for VOIP. Though I'm not sure
    how widely it is supported.

    >What have I misunderstood here?


    That Martin2 is a pillock who hasn't a clue what he is on about.

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