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  1. #1
    hi i used to be on 3g 2 years ago and was able to get a hidden menu on
    the nokia 7600 to only connect to the o2 signal. Anyone know if there
    is a newer phone on 3 with this hidden menu?

    any help appreciated




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  2. #2
    News24
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    Re: 3g signal

    [email protected] wrote in news:1136318953.244049.71790
    @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

    > hi i used to be on 3g 2 years ago and was able to get a hidden menu on
    > the nokia 7600 to only connect to the o2 signal. Anyone know if there
    > is a newer phone on 3 with this hidden menu?
    >
    > any help appreciated
    >
    >


    It's not a hidden menu, somewhere in Settings or Config on nearly any
    phone.

    Go to Network Selection > Manual > Scan> then from the list choose "3" NOT
    "3 3G", then select. "3" is the assigned network name for "O2" on 3
    phones, similar to Virgin replacing T-Mobile etc.

    This should lock it to the chosen network until you either rescan or switch
    to automatic selection. This feature is essentially to lock a preferred
    network when roaming overseas, but O2 is essentially "roaming" in the same
    way.



  3. #3
    Jon
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    Re: 3g signal

    [email protected]p declared for all the world to hear...
    > It's not a hidden menu, somewhere in Settings or Config on nearly any
    > phone.


    Actually it was deliberately hidden and still is on nearly every 3
    handset. They don't really want people locking down to the o2 signal as
    it costs them money to carry those calls.
    --
    Regards
    Jon



  4. #4
    Steve
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    Re: 3g signal


    "Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > [email protected]p declared for all the world to hear...
    >> It's not a hidden menu, somewhere in Settings or Config on nearly any
    >> phone.

    >
    > Actually it was deliberately hidden and still is on nearly every 3
    > handset. They don't really want people locking down to the o2 signal as
    > it costs them money to carry those calls.
    > --
    > Regards
    > Jon


    Someone Im sure will confirm, but an unlocked 6630 (maybe one sourced NOT
    from 3) has this selection and is still enabled

    Steve





  5. #5
    News24
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    Re: 3g signal

    Jon <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > [email protected]p declared for all the world to hear...
    >> It's not a hidden menu, somewhere in Settings or Config on nearly any
    >> phone.

    >
    > Actually it was deliberately hidden and still is on nearly every 3
    > handset. They don't really want people locking down to the o2 signal as
    > it costs them money to carry those calls.


    Works fine on my 3 branded and locked LG, and the one before that. AIUI
    "Network Selection" is a standard GSM specification, and if that menu
    option was hidden, then I wouldn't be able to manually select a net when
    overseas, and by definition prevent me from choosing 3's preferred roaming
    partners. This is quite important as quite a bit of the 3G content is FREE
    to browse, even when roaming, provided you are on the correct net. Same
    thing with direct voicemail access etc.



  6. #6
    Jon
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    Re: 3g signal

    [email protected]p declared for all the world to hear...
    > Works fine on my 3 branded and locked LG, and the one before that. AIUI
    > "Network Selection" is a standard GSM specification, and if that menu
    > option was hidden, then I wouldn't be able to manually select a net when
    > overseas, and by definition prevent me from choosing 3's preferred roaming
    > partners.


    Network selection and network mode are not the same thing.
    --
    Regards
    Jon



  7. #7
    mike1212
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    Re: 3g signal

    does the nokia 6280 have the hidden menu? I am keen to get this phone.
    so any help would be appreciated?

    Thanks




  8. #8
    News24
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    Re: 3g signal

    Jon <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > [email protected]p declared for all the world to hear...
    >> Works fine on my 3 branded and locked LG, and the one before that.
    >> AIUI "Network Selection" is a standard GSM specification, and if that
    >> menu option was hidden, then I wouldn't be able to manually select a
    >> net when overseas, and by definition prevent me from choosing 3's
    >> preferred roaming partners.

    >
    > Network selection and network mode are not the same thing.


    Network mode? You've lost me there.

    Selecting "3" Manual forces it to stick on the O2 virtual network. When
    you network scan you get in the list "3 3G" and "3", the latter being O2.

    When this is done the indicator on the display changes to Roaming and loses
    the 3G icon.

    I'm not sure what you mean, but this is a tried and tested method of
    forcing the phone to register on 2G irrespective of whether there is a 3G
    signal available.



  9. #9
    News24
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    Re: 3g signal

    "mike1212" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1136404042.155679.265990
    @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    > does the nokia 6280 have the hidden menu? I am keen to get this phone.
    > so any help would be appreciated?
    >
    > Thanks
    >


    I cannot say for sure, but I have yet to find a 2G or 3G phone which does
    not have the un-hidden ability to manually scan and select networks. You
    would need to find someone with the phone and have a look.

    According to the user guide P92
    (http://nds1.nokia.com/phones/files/g...6280_UG_en.pdf):

    Menu > Settings > Phone > Operator Selection > Manual

    It will then scan, present you with a list, and then simply select the
    desired network ("3" not "3 3G"). Note that if you want to use 3G services
    you will need to repeat this process and select "3 3G", or switch back to
    "Automatic" and power cycle the phone.

    I find it highly unlikely that this menu option will be restricted, as I
    said in another post it is essential for international roaming.

    HTH



  10. #10
    Jon
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    Re: 3g signal

    [email protected]p declared for all the world to hear...
    > I find it highly unlikely that this menu option will be restricted, as I
    > said in another post it is essential for international roaming.


    Once again, the ability to manually select a network is not the same
    thing as being able to switch to a 2G only mode.
    --
    Regards
    Jon



  11. #11
    Jon
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    Re: 3g signal

    [email protected]p declared for all the world to hear...
    > > Network selection and network mode are not the same thing.


    > Network mode? You've lost me there.


    That would explain a few things.

    > Selecting "3" Manual forces it to stick on the O2 virtual network. When
    > you network scan you get in the list "3 3G" and "3", the latter being O2.


    Indeed. I know that. What the OP is talking about is the ability to
    effectively switch the phone into a 2G-only mode. This is not the same
    as being able to manually select a network.
    --
    Regards
    Jon



  12. #12
    mike1212
    Guest

    Re: 3g signal

    FAO of Jon
    Can the nokia 6280 be forced to lock on to the 2g signal. I know the
    nokia 7600 was done with a factory reset. Any help appreciated

    Mike




  13. #13
    JC
    Guest

    Re: 3g signal

    On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:40:17 +0000, Brian Morrison
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >mike1212 wrote:
    >> FAO of Jon
    >> Can the nokia 6280 be forced to lock on to the 2g signal. I know the
    >> nokia 7600 was done with a factory reset. Any help appreciated
    >>

    >
    >Download the menu from the Nokia site and look at the menu structure, it
    >should have Network Mode in there somewhere if it can be so set.



    Unless of course, the network provider has seen fit to remove the option
    via custom firmware!
    --

    Regards

    John [Essex, UK]
    Remove the obvious spamtrap to reply



  14. #14
    News24
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    Re: 3g signal

    Brian Morrison <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > News24 wrote:
    >
    >>>Network selection and network mode are not the same thing.

    >>
    >>
    >> Network mode? You've lost me there.

    >
    > Explains why you're not following what Jon has said. Network mode
    > means 2G/3G or 2G only, IOW prevents the UMTS transceiver module being
    > activated to receive 3G signals at all.
    >
    >>
    >> Selecting "3" Manual forces it to stick on the O2 virtual network.
    >> When you network scan you get in the list "3 3G" and "3", the latter
    >> being O2.
    >>
    >> When this is done the indicator on the display changes to Roaming and
    >> loses the 3G icon.
    >>
    >> I'm not sure what you mean, but this is a tried and tested method of
    >> forcing the phone to register on 2G irrespective of whether there is
    >> a 3G signal available.

    >
    > Except that it will then re-register on 3's 3G network if it loses O2
    > coverage or it decides to re-scan for signals. If this does not happen
    > then the firmware is broken, 3 set all their badged phones up this
    > way.
    >

    Well my two different model LGs have always locked to O2 when set up this
    way even when I am constantly moving in and out of 3G coverage areas.

    The OP asked if this could be done, the method works for me and a few other
    people I know. Yes, I do understand that there are other solutions such as
    disabling UMTS in the firmware, but why use a sledgehammer to crack a nut?
    I can switch my lights off by going to the fusebox and switching off the
    mains, but I find the lightswitch simpler :-) If a *simple* solution works,
    then it works.



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