Cheap UK mobile?

"Jono" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:

[snip]

> > > Why should I pay for something urgent if it's not my
> > > fault it's urgent..? I need to call an emergency
> > > plumber because my bathroom ceiling has just
> > > collapsed, for example. Ivor
>
> This is a very circular argument.

It's also off topic for uk.telecom.voip. Please follow the corresponding
thread in uk.telecom.mobile form now on, thanks.

Ivor

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In message of Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Ivor Jones writes
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>"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk>
>wrote in message
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>> Thus spaketh [email protected]:
>> > On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:35:30 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > But if you're out, I can't..!
>> >
>> > Yes.
>> >
>> > > I am penalised if I need to speak to you
>> > > urgently,
>> >
>> > Yes
>> >
>> > > that's what's wrong, don't you see..?
>> >
>> > No. If you don't want to call urgently, wait. You have
>> > the choice. Why should the recipient pay for your
>> > impatience?
>>
>> Well said!
>
>Why should I pay for something urgent if it's not my fault it's urgent..?
>I need to call an emergency plumber because my bathroom ceiling has just
>collapsed, for example.
>
>Ivor
>
>

IVOR, WILL YOU PLEASE STOP POSTING OFF TOPIC TO UK.TELECOM.VOIP

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:44:37 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Why should I pay for something urgent if it's not my fault it's urgent..?

Your choice.

>I need to call an emergency plumber because my bathroom ceiling has just
>collapsed, for example.

So it is urgent. Pay. Or wait till he gets home. Your choice. Why
should he pay for "urgent" dripping tap calls?


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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:49:01 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> It's an option here, but few bother with it.
>
>But it isn't. You are probably thinking of Orange's landline number
>offerings, but this is (a) vastly overpriced, (b) doesn't take the cost of
>incoming calls from any inclusive minutes and (c) isn't available on PAYG.

I have an 0800 number delivering to my mobile, and I can divert a
landline number via VOIP to it. I choose not to use either.
>>
>> > *You* choose to go mobile, *you* pay. Simple. It works
>> > in the US, very few people there complain about it from
>> > my personal experience.
>>
>> So what?
>
>So why can't we have it here..? It would be nice as an option for those of
>us who do want it.

The option is there. You can have an 0870 or 0845 or 0800 terminating
at your mobile at your cost, or you can divert a VOIP number. Just do
it.




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Thus spaketh S Viemeister:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>
>> I know plenty of people with mobiles (sorry, cellphones..!) in the
>> US. None of them are unhappy with the way the system works or is
>> charged. None of them use pagers or payphones either. Well actually
>> one person I know does have a pager, but he uses that to avoid
>> getting unwanted calls from work when he's not working. He doesn't
>> use it to avoid incoming call charges.
>>
> I only give out my US mobile number to people I want to hear from.
> Their names and numbers are in the phone's directory. If I don't
> recognise an incoming number, I let it go to voicemail. My calls to
> voicemail are not charged, and if the caller has left a message, I
> can then decide if I want to call back.
> In the UK, I'm more likely to answer an unrecognised number, as it
> costs _me_ nothing, but checking voicemail isn't free.
>
> S.

Yeah, some UK networks charge for voicemail retrieval, mine doesn't.

"David Floyd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> IVOR, WILL YOU PLEASE STOP POSTING OFF TOPIC TO
> UK.TELECOM.VOIP

I have repeatedly asked that people do not do this, if you read my earlier
posts. It was I who originally crossposted to uk.t.m but people aren't
removing uk.t.v from the headers when replying. I forgot to do so, I'm
sorry.

Please don't shout..!

Ivor

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[snip]

> The option is there. You can have an 0870 or 0845 or 0800
> terminating at your mobile at your cost, or you can
> divert a VOIP number. Just do it.

But I can't have incoming calls taken from my inclusive minutes or PAYG
credit, which is what I want, along with a normal geographic phone number.

Ivor

Ivor Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> [snip]
>
> > The option is there. You can have an 0870 or 0845 or 0800
> > terminating at your mobile at your cost, or you can
> > divert a VOIP number. Just do it.
>
> But I can't have incoming calls taken from my inclusive minutes or PAYG
> credit, which is what I want, along with a normal geographic phone number.

Having spent 11 years in the US, and still there a lot (I'm just back) I
know what mobile pricing system delivers best value and convenience to
me, and it sure as hell isn't the US one.

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"David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy" wrote:
>
> Having spent 11 years in the US, and still there a lot (I'm just back) I
> know what mobile pricing system delivers best value and convenience to
> me, and it sure as hell isn't the US one.
>
Like you, David, I spend a fair amount of time in both the UK and the US,
and I agree with your assessment.

S.

In message of Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Ivor Jones writes
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>
>"David Floyd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> IVOR, WILL YOU PLEASE STOP POSTING OFF TOPIC TO
>> UK.TELECOM.VOIP
>
>I have repeatedly asked that people do not do this, if you read my earlier
>posts. It was I who originally crossposted to uk.t.m but people aren't
>removing uk.t.v from the headers when replying. I forgot to do so, I'm
>sorry.
>

Apology accepted :-)


>Please don't shout..!
>

I didn't think you heard your own instructions - hence. :-)

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o'
th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy"
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[snip]

> Having spent 11 years in the US, and still there a lot
> (I'm just back) I know what mobile pricing system
> delivers best value and convenience to me, and it sure as
> hell isn't the US one.

Well it is to me, so why can't I have it..?

Ivor

Thus spaketh Ivor Jones:
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o'
> th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1h9a5t5.1nticybcc40f9N%[email protected]
>
> [snip]
>
>> Having spent 11 years in the US, and still there a lot
>> (I'm just back) I know what mobile pricing system
>> delivers best value and convenience to me, and it sure as
>> hell isn't the US one.
>
> Well it is to me, so why can't I have it..?
>
> Ivor

It wouldn't be worth their effort for just odd 1 or 2 people who want it.