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  1. #1
    aboleth
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    My handset is not displaying the voicemail notification icon. It's an
    unlocked Orange handset on an 02 contract, so I guess that could be the
    problem. Or is it just that 02 don't do it that way, they seem to want
    to send me a text or call me up whenever I have voicemanil, and it's
    really bugging me.




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  2. #2
    {{{{{Welcome}}}}}
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    Re: 02 voicemail notification

    Thus spaketh aboleth:
    > My handset is not displaying the voicemail notification icon. It's an
    > unlocked Orange handset on an 02 contract, so I guess that could be
    > the problem. Or is it just that 02 don't do it that way, they seem to
    > want to send me a text or call me up whenever I have voicemanil, and
    > it's really bugging me.



    O2 don't do it that way, neither did Vodafone, but I think they may do now,
    can't understand why O2 don't implement it, crazy not to.


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  3. #3
    Ivor Jones
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    Re: 02 voicemail notification



    "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk>
    wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > Thus spaketh aboleth:
    > > My handset is not displaying the voicemail notification
    > > icon. It's an unlocked Orange handset on an 02
    > > contract, so I guess that could be the problem. Or is
    > > it just that 02 don't do it that way, they seem to want
    > > to send me a text or call me up whenever I have
    > > voicemanil, and it's really bugging me.

    >
    >
    > O2 don't do it that way, neither did Vodafone, but I
    > think they may do now, can't understand why O2 don't
    > implement it, crazy not to.


    They don't do it because it was never part of the original GSM specs.
    Orange and 121 as they then were used a slightly different specification
    which allows for the voicemail icon.

    I am now on Tesco Mobile, which uses O2 (was on Orange) and the standard
    notification is a text message. I don't see it as a problem, it's just
    pressing the "1" key to call voicemail rather than pressing the menu key.
    Maybe 1 extra button press..?

    Ivor





  4. #4
    Taylor
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    Re: 02 voicemail notification

    "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > They don't do it because it was never part of the original GSM specs.
    > Orange and 121 as they then were used a slightly different specification
    > which allows for the voicemail icon.
    >
    > I am now on Tesco Mobile, which uses O2 (was on Orange) and the standard
    > notification is a text message. I don't see it as a problem, it's just
    > pressing the "1" key to call voicemail rather than pressing the menu key.
    > Maybe 1 extra button press..?


    I expect the answer will be something along the lines of "it is used in
    other countries, ie: USA"; but why do manufacturers build this voicemail
    icon functional thingy into their phones? Just an added extra I presume?





  5. #5
    Ken Wheatley
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    Re: 02 voicemail notification


    "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>>

    >>
    >> O2 don't do it that way, neither did Vodafone, but I
    >> think they may do now, can't understand why O2 don't
    >> implement it, crazy not to.

    >
    > They don't do it because it was never part of the original GSM specs.
    > Orange and 121 as they then were used a slightly different specification
    > which allows for the voicemail icon.
    >

    But there HAS been a way (in fact more than one way) to manipulate an icon
    in the GSM standard for years now, so that's hardly an excuse.

    The real answer, presumably, is that O2 don't consider it an important
    customer requirement.





  6. #6
    Rob
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    Re: 02 voicemail notification

    Ken Wheatley wrote:
    > "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>> O2 don't do it that way, neither did Vodafone, but I
    >>> think they may do now, can't understand why O2 don't
    >>> implement it, crazy not to.

    >> They don't do it because it was never part of the original GSM specs.
    >> Orange and 121 as they then were used a slightly different specification
    >> which allows for the voicemail icon.
    >>

    > But there HAS been a way (in fact more than one way) to manipulate an icon
    > in the GSM standard for years now, so that's hardly an excuse.
    >
    > The real answer, presumably, is that O2 don't consider it an important
    > customer requirement.
    >
    >


    Vodafone now do, although I think it's only with their 242 -
    vodafone.net message service.

    Rob



  7. #7
    aboleth
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    Re: 02 voicemail notification

    OK, I found out about it, it's in the GSM standard but the method used
    by most operators is a PCM non-GSM standard that came in later. O2 were
    originally Cellnet and had a pure GSM system which they've never seen
    fit to upgrade as far as voicemail notification goes.

    What's annoying about the texts is that you have to delete them
    manually otherwise your phone fills up. The notification icon goes away
    on its own.




  8. #8
    Dave C
    Guest

    Re: 02 voicemail notification

    aboleth wrote:
    > OK, I found out about it, it's in the GSM standard but the method used
    > by most operators is a PCM non-GSM standard that came in later. O2 were
    > originally Cellnet and had a pure GSM system which they've never seen
    > fit to upgrade as far as voicemail notification goes.
    >
    > What's annoying about the texts is that you have to delete them
    > manually otherwise your phone fills up. The notification icon goes away
    > on its own.
    >

    You could of course change the notification so that you are called by
    voicemail.

    --
    Dave C



  9. #9
    {{{{{Welcome}}}}}
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    Re: 02 voicemail notification

    Thus spaketh Dave C:
    > aboleth wrote:
    >> OK, I found out about it, it's in the GSM standard but the method
    >> used by most operators is a PCM non-GSM standard that came in later.
    >> O2 were originally Cellnet and had a pure GSM system which they've
    >> never seen fit to upgrade as far as voicemail notification goes.
    >>
    >> What's annoying about the texts is that you have to delete them
    >> manually otherwise your phone fills up. The notification icon goes
    >> away on its own.
    >>

    > You could of course change the notification so that you are called by
    > voicemail.



    Which is even more annoying than the text message.





  10. #10
    Dave C
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    Re: 02 voicemail notification

    {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
    > Thus spaketh Dave C:


    >>
    >>You could of course change the notification so that you are called by
    >>voicemail.

    >
    >
    >
    > Which is even more annoying than the text message.
    >


    Yeah but means you get to listen one more time to that annoying ringtone
    you purchased. ;-)

    --
    Dave C



  11. #11
    {{{{{Welcome}}}}}
    Guest

    Re: 02 voicemail notification

    Thus spaketh Dave C:
    > {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
    >> Thus spaketh Dave C:

    >
    >>>
    >>> You could of course change the notification so that you are called
    >>> by voicemail.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Which is even more annoying than the text message.
    >>

    >
    > Yeah but means you get to listen one more time to that annoying
    > ringtone you purchased. ;-)




    Pay for ringtones??





  12. #12
    Ivor Jones
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    Re: 02 voicemail notification



    "Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > They don't do it because it was never part of the
    > > original GSM specs. Orange and 121 as they then were
    > > used a slightly different specification which allows
    > > for the voicemail icon. I am now on Tesco Mobile, which uses O2 (was
    > > on Orange)
    > > and the standard notification is a text message. I
    > > don't see it as a problem, it's just pressing the "1"
    > > key to call voicemail rather than pressing the menu
    > > key. Maybe 1 extra button press..?

    >
    > I expect the answer will be something along the lines of
    > "it is used in other countries, ie: USA"; but why do
    > manufacturers build this voicemail icon functional thingy
    > into their phones? Just an added extra I presume?


    It's not a phone function, it's a network function. The phone has the
    ability to display the icon because it might be used on a network that
    supports it. Not all networks do.

    Ivor





  13. #13
    Ivor Jones
    Guest

    Re: 02 voicemail notification



    "aboleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > OK, I found out about it, it's in the GSM standard but
    > the method used by most operators is a PCM non-GSM
    > standard that came in later. O2 were originally Cellnet
    > and had a pure GSM system which they've never seen fit to
    > upgrade as far as voicemail notification goes.
    >
    > What's annoying about the texts is that you have to
    > delete them manually otherwise your phone fills up. The
    > notification icon goes away on its own.


    Again, an extra button press or two. Big deal..! I actually like it in
    some ways, it can be useful to know at a later date what time a message
    was received.

    Ivor





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